Euroschu From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 122 posts, RR: 0 Posted (12 years 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 857 times:
The breakup of KLM/AZ presents a very interesting situation for the emerging DL/AF/Aeromexico/Korean alliance. Should it persue a link with AZ? What benefits and/or problems would it add? I see the positives as:
1) Italy is one of the top European destinations and Alitalia has an enormous market share. Adding them to the alliance would provide increased direct flights from the US & the key European cities.
2) DL/AF would seem to benefit from another strong airline to serve the Southern European/Eastern European markets. The Malpensa hub would seem to be a good base (if they can ever get this hub out of the disasterous state it is in).
3) DL/AF have the monetary resources to invest in the privitization of AZ ---- and possibly help make it a more efficient airline.
The drawbacks:
1) AF already operates a very large and efficient European operation which covers most, if not all, of the largest & mid-size markets.
2) The CDG hub will continue to expand and adding a competing hub at Malpensa, which is not that far away, would not seem to make sense.
3) Malpensa. This is a disaster right now. KLM is a very savy company & would not have pulled out if they thought this hub could work.
Personally, I like Alitalia's service and have had good luck with them. But personal experience aside, they do not seem to be viewed that favorably by members of this board.
I would welcome all viewpoints. What is clear is that AZ & KLM both need to enter a strong alliance soon. And as we've seen from the DL/AF/Aeromexico experience, waiting too long leaves you secondary players (Korean & possibly Aeroflot).
DeltaAir From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1094 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 815 times:
DL-AF aren't worrying yet about their future. One thing you have to remember is that quantity means nothing when you don't have quality. Korean Air will not join the alliance until Delta, Air France, and the FAA have approved them. Right now Delta and Air France is pumping money into them as well as having pilots and advisors over there as well. AZ will not join DL-AF for one simple reason, KLM ditched them so why should DL-AF have to put up with them? If it privatizes then it may become a possbility.
DeltAirlines From United States of America, joined exactly 13 years ago today! , 8545 posts, RR: 14 Reply 2, posted (12 years 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 813 times:
I would love to see AZ join it, with TransBrasil and SAA.