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Biggest US Cargo-Airline Besides UPS And FedEx?  
User currently offlineMD 11 From Germany, joined Sep 1999, 195 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5091 times:

Hi,
I wonder what the biggest US-Cargo-airline is (except UPS and FedEx). Polar? BAX? Kalitta? Evergreen?

(Love them all with their "geriatric"-fleets!)
Wish I could fly with one of them one day!

Bye

MD 11

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User currently offlineDan2002 From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 2055 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5084 times:

DHL or ABX.


-Dan



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User currently offlineMD 11 From Germany, joined Sep 1999, 195 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5073 times:

ABX????? Whats that?

User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4108 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5060 times:

Airborne Express, now part of DHL...so I guess it's DHL.

User currently offlineLawnDart From United States of America, joined May 2005, 970 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5046 times:

How do you define largest? Aircraft in fleet, or revenue ton miles?

UPS and FedEx argued in court that DHL was majority owned by the German Postal Service...does that make them a German company? If so, how about Atlas, the holding company for Atlas and Polar?


User currently offlineMD 11 From Germany, joined Sep 1999, 195 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5043 times:

And what about the others? Are there, too, 6 Cargo-"big ones" like the 6 "big passenger carriers" in the States?
Bye,
MD 11


User currently offlineFedexexpress From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 284 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5049 times:

FEDEX all the way . I know you said except FEDEX or UPS! Just had to say that. Fedex is adding on here at IND big time. IND will be the biggest HUB for Fedex they already said that, Fedex seems to love the city. and we are not land locked like MEM. Eric


"Its not what your country can do for you its what you can do for your country" JFK
User currently offlineNosedive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5038 times:

Quoting Fedexexpress (Reply 6):
IND will be the biggest HUB for Fedex they already said that, Fedex seems to love the city. and we are not land locked like MEM.

You've got a long way to go, esp in ramp space


User currently offlineMD 11 From Germany, joined Sep 1999, 195 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5024 times:

Think, revenue ton miles would make the most sense.
Bye the way, FedEx bigger (fleet and rtm) as UPS (I think so)? I am not sure, have no figures.
Bye,
MD 11


User currently offlineFedexexpress From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 284 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5010 times:

I know Nosedive. But i have the plans that fedex is going to do to IND they passed this out to all the IND employees at fedex


"Its not what your country can do for you its what you can do for your country" JFK
User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11752 posts, RR: 62
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5003 times:

In terms of FTKs, the largest US cargo/freight carriers are:

1) FedEx
2) Atlas
3) UPS
4) Polar
5) Kalitta
6) Northwest
7) American
8) United
9) Evergreen
10) Delta

Per the latest issue of Air Transport World


User currently offlineFedexexpress From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 284 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4994 times:

Northwest thats impressive did not realize they moved that much Cargo! GO NWA!! Eric


"Its not what your country can do for you its what you can do for your country" JFK
User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11752 posts, RR: 62
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4988 times:

Quoting Fedexexpress (Reply 11):
Northwest thats impressive did not realize they moved that much Cargo! GO NWA!! Eric

Very true, but I think AA and UA are even more impressive considering that neither has any all-cargo planes (as NW does) and only carries freight and cargo in the bellies of their passenger aircraft. The fact that AA and UA haul so much cargo on their regularly scheduled passenger flights is amazing, and probably due largely to AA's enormous cargo market in Latin America and UA's in Asia.


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8724 posts, RR: 43
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4964 times:

Quoting Commavia (Reply 10):
2) Atlas
4) Polar

Being they're owned by the same holding, would their numbers combined be anywhere near FedEx?



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User currently offlineHawk44 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 759 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4907 times:

Is Evergreen still around?


Hawk44



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User currently offlineB744F From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4898 times:

Yep, mainly military charters for E

User currently offlineUPS Pilot From United States of America, joined May 1999, 871 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4842 times:

Shame UPS uses more trucks to haul air than Fed Ex. They deliver twice as much as all the Fed Ex's combined.

User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11752 posts, RR: 62
Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4837 times:

Quoting Aloges (Reply 13):
Being they're owned by the same holding, would their numbers combined be anywhere near FedEx?

Combined, they are larger than FedEx (639K FTKs vs. 438K FTKs).


User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4842 times:

Quoting Fedexexpress (Reply 6):
FEDEX all the way . I know you said except FEDEX or UPS! Just had to say that. Fedex is adding on here at IND big time. IND will be the biggest HUB for Fedex they already said that, Fedex seems to love the city. and we are not land locked like MEM. Eric

I'll believe that when there are 20 A380 flights a day.


User currently offline747Loadmaster From Germany, joined Oct 2004, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4743 times:

Evergreen have just bought 2 747-200 freighters N487EV and N488EV.

User currently offlineTIMEAIR From Canada, joined May 2005, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4611 times:

I assume EMERY WORLDWIDE has been absorbed by someone?? It had quite the contingent of DC8 freighters.....any info?


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User currently offlineSyncmaster From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 2038 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4608 times:
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Just out of curiousity, does anyone know where Kitty Hawk Aircargo stands on that list?

-Charlie


User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4605 posts, RR: 23
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4597 times:

I believe Emery just went away like a bad dream. Anyone have figures on BAX? Also their DC-8s may finally soon be a thing of the past.

User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4108 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4554 times:

Sort of on topic...Why is it called FedEx Express? Doesn't that really mean Federal Express Express? Never made sense to me...perhaps some FDX people can shed some light on this?

User currently offlineB6FA4ever From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 818 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4479 times:

in regards to UA. do they still have any "Worldwide Cargo" planes? or did that cease to exist when they retired all their DC-10's?

did UA not make enough money to keep the DC-10 fleet flying as cargo only planes?

~B6FA4ever


25 Syncmaster : United no longer operates any freighter aircraft. I'm not sure when they stopped. -Charlie
26 Fedexexpress : Fedex bought some of the UA DC 10-10 i know that cuz we have not painted them in the fedex colors yet!! Eric
27 Laxintl : The United DC-10-30F fleet was retired following Christmas 2000. UA had been using the aircraft since 1997, however due to lack of reported profitabi
28 PanHAM : UPS, yeah they renamed themselves "Menlo", lost a couple of contracts, and whatever was the rest of them was finally absorbed by Big Brown. The DAY h
29 UPS Pilot : Pan Ham is right. UPS bought Menlo this year (Former Emery) mostly for the book of business. UPS is adding freight hubs as well along with buying frei
30 Aviationwiz : It's because it's the Express (3DA, 2DA, 1DA) small package delivery unit of the FedEx company. From the FedEx website:
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