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Ansett - Set To Fly The B777.  
User currently offlineVH-BZF From Australia, joined Oct 1999, 866 posts, RR: 0
Posted (16 years 1 month 6 hours ago) and read 2621 times:

BIG News reported today in the Australian Financial Review!

Whilst Qantas is negotiating with Boeing & Airbus on a new fleet of 10 widebodied aircraft, It looks as though Ansett may have beaten them to the punch!

"Ansett is likely to deploy within a year a fleet of B777's from Singapore Airlines for expansion onto Asian routes and peak-hour flights between Melbourne & Sydney.
SQ which now owns 25% of AN through its quarter share of Air NZ, has said it will aggressively expand both airlines with new planes & routes"

As a side note, the AFR also stated that Airbus are offering Qantas a huge discount to be a launch customer for the A3XX along with signed up customers - Emirates, Cathay, Singapore Airlines, ANA and freight/parcel operators FedEX & Atlas. They say a cost of $US280 million per aircraft would be realistic, but if QF orders now they could save as much as $US56 million off each aircraft!

We will wait & see!


Ansett Australia - (was) One of the worlds great airlines!
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User currently offlineDnalor From Australia, joined Mar 2000, 370 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (16 years 1 month 5 hours ago) and read 2437 times:

Hmmm, things might get interesting over here soon, I hope I can score a job at the airport.

User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6832 posts, RR: 54
Reply 2, posted (16 years 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2390 times:

This sounds very promising, but I'd like to hear something official from Ansett or Singapore Airlines. Hopefully this will come true. That would be very good for Ansett Australia. The777Man

Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....LX and LH 777s
User currently offlineVH-BZF From Australia, joined Oct 1999, 866 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (16 years 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2365 times:

Both SQ & NZ have stated publicly that they want the Ansett brand flying more international services & infact Jim McCrea CEO of both NZ & now AN, has stated that AN would be a better choice on the Syd-Lax route than possibly NZ, because of AN's strong (local) brand.

B777's flying peak services between Melbourne & Sydney would also be very interesting! Ansett for a long time has not wanted to provoke QF into a capacity war (because of AN distinct lack of widebody capacity!) on trunk routes, however now with strong owners (SQ), Ansett can afford to take that step!


Ansett Australia - (was) One of the worlds great airlines!
User currently offlineChieftain From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (16 years 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2358 times:

Odd, I would have thought AN would take the SQ A340's---maybe these will go to Virgin instead?

User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4555 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (16 years 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2360 times:

SIA isn't set to receive another 777-200ER until Feb 01 so where are these birds going to come from? Their 747-400 fleet will grow though from 2 744s to 6 744s.

"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
User currently offlineTrvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (16 years 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2344 times:

God, it looks as if Airbus is only building this plane to stick its tongue out at Boeing. I think Boeing should counter with an offer for a 747-500!

Aaron G.

User currently offlineGUNDU From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (16 years 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2313 times:

SIA will be willing to get rid of 9V-SQA ASAP.SQA gives them lots of troubles and SIA also has a lot of surplus 777's,so SIA might be able to lease some 777's out.

User currently offlineN949WP From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2000, 1437 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (16 years 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2307 times:

What's wrong with 9V-SQA?


User currently offlineStuarts8 From New Zealand, joined Apr 2000, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (16 years 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2309 times:

This will also affect what Air New Zealand intends to do in my view. They do not appear to be going for the 777 at the moment but that could change. Air New Zealand has always been Boeing and personally I cant see them going for Airbus. But Singapore may have other ideas for both Ansett and Air New Zealand so we shall have to wait and see.

User currently offlineSkystar From Australia, joined Jan 2000, 1363 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (16 years 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2260 times:

All I can say is that AN getting 777s is possible, but take a pinch of salt with everything you hear - people have been speculating for years.

To have 777s on MEL-SYD services would represent a sizeable jump in capacity - too much IMHO. There is no forseeable growth nor demand at the moment to facilitate such a move. MEL-SYD, while a high capacity route, is ruled by frequency. 777s represent a very large jump over 762 capacity.

It may be nice to have 777s, but remember that they may not make economic sense on MEL-SYD. The aircraft at the moment, which makes most sense for AN Domestic routes (widebody), ironically is the 767, 200 or 300.

Airbus doesn't have a suitable alternative (332 is too heavy and too big - not optimal for short hop routes. plus it brings operational problems at YSSY; gates)



User currently offlineB727-200 From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 1051 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (16 years 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2245 times:

Oh, the things you read!!!

The Ansett brand is much stronger in a much bigger market than that operated by NZ. Survey have even shown that most people would prefer to fly AN over QF to LAX if they had the opportunity.

As for the B777's?????

Flights between SYD-MEL would cost a packet with B777's. Even the B767-300 is quite expensive compared to narrowbody aircraft. Also, there are not many opportunities in Asia at the moment for expansion either (landing rights and lack of growth).

I think this article may be a piece of very creative writing.


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