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French TV : More A350 Orders This Week!  
User currently offlineKL911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 5087 posts, RR: 12
Posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6250 times:

Just announced on the French TF1 news, Airbus said that we'll get more A350 orders this week, and that the program is doing very well...

KL911


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User currently offlineEK156 From United Arab Emirates, joined May 2005, 765 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6204 times:

My oh my.... and everybody thought Airbus was struggling after the delay of the A 380. It seems that they are as strong as ever... Good on you Airbus!!

User currently offlineAirFrnt From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2822 posts, RR: 42
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6154 times:

Quoting KL911 (Thread starter):
Just announced on the French TF1 news, Airbus said that we'll get more A350 orders this week, and that the program is doing very well...

KL911

What did you expect them to say? We tried to feed everyone a half baked A330, got our rear ends handed to us by AC and NW, but we now have a new plane that at least has a prayer of getting orders?

[Edited 2005-06-13 20:43:18]

[Edited 2005-06-13 20:43:54]

User currently offlineKL911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 5087 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6088 times:

Quoting AirFrnt (Reply 2):
What did you expect them to say? We tried to feed everyone a half baked deritivitive of the A330, got our rear ended handed to us by AC and NW, but we now have a new plane that at least has a prayer of getting orders?

It means that the A350 is selling well, and it even hasn't been launched officially yet....

KL911



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User currently offlineRJ111 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6073 times:

I guess the HP/US one cold go down, as well as maybe a leasing company.

Quoting AirFrnt (Reply 2):
What did you expect them to say? We tried to feed everyone a half baked deritivitive of the A330, got our rear ended handed to us by AC and NW, but we now have a new plane that at least has a prayer of getting orders?

I didn't even expect a person like you to say something quite so wreckless.


User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8045 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6013 times:

It means that the 350 is selling, but at what cost?

Development costs are probably being pushed up from initial estimates. The 787 is selling well enough to put a lot of price pressure on the 350. The potential for 330/340 customers to want some very special deals on converting their fleets over time might also put on cost pressures.

I'm glad to see the QR 350 order and look forward to seeing the split of firm orders and options. I'm looking forward to see what the rest of the week will bring.

Congrats to both A & B.


User currently offlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5295 posts, RR: 29
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5978 times:

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 5):
I'm glad to see the QR 350 order and look forward to seeing the split of firm orders and options. I'm looking forward to see what the rest of the week will bring.

Congrats to both A & B.

It's definitely healthy for Airbus and Boeing to remain strong competitors in as many segments as possible. The A330 has been a great plane, and the A350 will likely build on that. Other than perhaps the 772ER for Boeing (and of course the A330/340 for Airbus), there appears to be room for everyone.

-Dave



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User currently offlineKL911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 5087 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5686 times:

Question is : Who is the next customer this week?

LH or AF?

KL911



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User currently offlineKtliem@yvr From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 161 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5596 times:

Airbus Wins Key (60) A350 Orders With Qatar

Source:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050613/ap_on_bi_ge/france_air_show


User currently offlineAmirs From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 1333 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5497 times:

i have a bad feeling el al will order A350.

User currently offlineRichard28 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 1597 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5484 times:

why is it a "bad" feeling?

User currently offlineAvObserver From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 2445 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5289 times:

"i have a bad feeling el al will order A350."

Not if many billions of $ in U.S. aid over the years have anything to say about it. You can bet they'll be strong pressure from Tel Aviv on the airline to buy 787, even if it's free to do otherwise. Bad time to be pissing off the Bush Administration, after all its posturing in support of Israel. I doubt Sharon would want to risk any reduction in U.S. aid right now, given the lingering Palestinian issue and general uncertainties in the Middle East. That wouldn't be very "Kosher" - pun intended.


User currently offlineMidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5261 times:

Quoting KL911 (Reply 3):
It means that the A350 is selling well, and it even hasn't been launched officially yet....

KL911

The A350 has been offered for sale since last year.



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User currently offlineNumberTwelve From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 1431 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5209 times:

Quoting AvObserver (Reply 11):
"i have a bad feeling el al will order A350."

Not if many billions of $ in U.S. aid over the years have anything to say about it.

First of all it would be a great success for LY to order the 350. Also European countries are paying, AvObserver. And for what do you pay Israel? Just to buy planes?



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User currently offlineSebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3675 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5121 times:

Quoting AvObserver (Reply 11):
Not if many billions of $ in U.S. aid over the years have anything to say about it.

Ridiculous


User currently offlinePRGLY From Czech Republic, joined Dec 2004, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5080 times:

Quoting AvObserver (Reply 11):
I doubt Sharon would want to risk any reduction in U.S. aid right now,

Sharon does not seem to be CEO or Chairman of the Board of ELAL



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User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7031 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4972 times:

According to the homepage of the German news magazin "Der Spiegel"
Emirates is about to order 50 A350s.

http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/0,1518,360397,00.html (link in German)



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User currently offlineArt From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 3351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4833 times:

Quoting AirFrnt (Reply 2):
We tried to feed everyone a half baked A330, got our rear ends handed to us by AC and NW, but we now have a new plane that at least has a prayer of getting orders?

I think history may show that AC and NW did Airbus an enormous favour in declining the misconceived product offered to them.


User currently offlineMonteycarlos From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2107 posts, RR: 29
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4778 times:

Quoting AvObserver (Reply 11):
Not if many billions of $ in U.S. aid over the years have anything to say about it.

Hmmm, you must have missed the memo about LY being able to order whatever planes they want now.

Oh and you missed this thread!
El Al To End Long Time Bias Toward Boeing (by 777ER Mar 30 2005 in Civil Aviation)
And the latter one:
El Al To End Long Time Bias Toward Boeing, #2 (by 777ER Mar 31 2005 in Civil Aviation)

Quoting Amirs (Reply 9):
i have a bad feeling el al will order A350.

And exactly why is it a "bad" thing?

Quoting Columba (Reply 16):
Emirates is about to order 50 A350s.

Because it is in german I can't read it, but I'll take you for your word that somewhere in there it mentions EK are now going to order the A350... I am a little confused because last week it seemed all deals with EK stalled and no order for the A350 would be made (yet). Maybe QR have forced EK to play their hand?



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User currently offlineGlideslope From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1595 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3804 times:

Quoting Monteycarlos (Reply 18):
Maybe QR have forced EK to play their hand?

Now why would they force the hand of EK? It's not like a seat on the UN Security Council is up for selection?  Smile



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User currently offlineYULMRS From France, joined Mar 2005, 193 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3753 times:

Quoting KL911 (Thread starter):
Just announced on the French TF1 news

This is TF1 news ... You're not talking about real information but about a populist TV show ...

But, we all know they will have more A350 orders this week ... That's not what I call news (may be known news ...), the only questions are who and how many A/Cs



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User currently offlineBoogyJay From France, joined May 2005, 490 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3651 times:

Quoting Columba (Reply 16):
According to the homepage of the German news magazin "Der Spiegel"
Emirates is about to order 50 A350s.

http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/0,1518,360397,00.html (link in German)

From the Google translator, here is the part about EK:

Quote:
Duesseldorf/Paris - the airline of emirate airlines prepares the order of 50 A350, reports the "trade paper" with reference to industry circles. The billion-order of the Arab state line is presumably only on the Dubai air Show in November admits to be given.

They say they have sources in the aviation industry... I think it is a quite weak source. We often see F/A's, pilots, staffs saying something about their company ending up being completely false.
I think we just have to wait until their official announcement. Until then, everything is possible. Look at QR, a lot of people thought they were going for the B787, we even had some "I can't tell my source but I can guarantee you they go for the B787"  Yeah sure


User currently offlineMonteycarlos From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2107 posts, RR: 29
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3068 times:

Quoting Glideslope (Reply 19):
Now why would they force the hand of EK?

Because these two Airlines are quite competitive, and regionally very close.

Quoting Glideslope (Reply 19):
It's not like a seat on the UN Security Council is up for selection?

LOL!  Wink



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User currently offlineAmirs From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 1333 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2929 times:

Quoting Monteycarlos:

And exactly why is it a "bad" thing?


Because from all that I have heard and read, the 787 will probably be a better plane.


User currently offlineBearcuban12 From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2922 times:

I love the B vs A threads....... All you have to do is look at the country of origin of the threads before you actually read what they have to say, and you see who they are fighting for.... As predictable as Essendon finishing in the bottom 8 this year in the Australian football.......

25 EmmenezMoi : For info, the Spiegel article mentions the fact that the order is likely to be announced only at the Dubai air show (not now). Are you implying that
26 Monteycarlos : Well you'll have to wait an see, yet to be fair the A350 seems to be bigger so it all depends on what the likes of LY want. Well that is probably goi
27 Post contains images FlyAUA : Yes the A350 is doing better than most speculation on here. There is also talk of a joint order by Star Alliance by the way (this would give those air
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