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DC3 Crashed In Fort Lauderdale  
User currently offlineJfkaua From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1000 posts, RR: 3
Posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12533 times:

NBC is reporting a large aircraft has crashed on 56th street in fort lauderdale.. anyone down there that can tell us more?

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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12506 times:

I hope by "large aircraft" they don't mean airliner...

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5201 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12477 times:

Sh*t! What is large? Hope it's nothing serious. What's the local time there now?

KL911


User currently offlineIanatSTN From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 577 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12460 times:

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 1):
I hope by "large aircraft" they don't mean airliner...

I seriously hope this is the case also....

Ian



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User currently offlineBaylorAirBear From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2913 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12450 times:

Just saw it on MSNBC. I caught the end of it. Didn't hear the type. They did make a point though that therir info. may be incorrect. More: Looks like a large twin prop. W/O all in flames

DC-3 headed to Caribean

BaylorAirBear

[Edited 2005-06-13 22:07:32]

[Edited 2005-06-13 22:07:55]


I'm just skipping stones...
User currently offlineJfkaua From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1000 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12448 times:

looks like a large prop...

User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12434 times:

Sh*t! What is large? Hope it's nothing serious. What's the local time there now?

It's 4:06pm here on the east coast, 1606 for you Europeans out there.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlinePA110 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2008 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12356 times:
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MSNBC is now saying it is a DC3


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User currently offlineRicci767 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 151 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12308 times:

DC-3? Not too large then (thank god). Any fatalities?

User currently offlineJfkaua From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1000 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12227 times:

it appears to be a cargo dc-3 that managed to crash land on a side street.

User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12223 times:

DC-3? Not too large then (thank god). Any fatalities?

Probably too early to say for sure.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineJfkaua From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1000 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12159 times:

it looked like a somewhat survivable crash.. the wreckage was pretty condensed..

User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12151 times:

All the news stations are watching the damn Jackson verdict.  banghead 

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineIanatSTN From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 577 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12125 times:

DC3? Thank God it wasn't anything larger, yet my deepest hopes are with those onboard, lets hope for no fatalities....

Cheers,
Ian.



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User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5201 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12109 times:

Quoting Ricci767 (Reply 9):
DC-3? Not too large then (thank god). Any fatalities?

Does the DC-3 still fly in the US? I thought they only flew in some jungle somewhere..

KL911


User currently offlineMIASkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12072 times:

http://www.nbc6.net/news/4603028/detail.html

Confirming...DC-3!

Looks bad...from the looks of it; it looks like it crashed in a residential area!

I will keep everyone posted...



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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12021 times:

Does the DC-3 still fly in the US? I thought they only flew in some jungle somewhere..

Actually, they are quite common, relatively speaking, in the Caribbean region. Go to SJU, and you will see whole fleets of them, most of them flying cargo.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineBrons2 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3015 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 11968 times:

I wonder if they were using derate, there's been a big debate on the DC-3 sites over the use of this.


Firings, if well done, are good for employee morale.
User currently offlineIanatSTN From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 577 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 11893 times:

At least if its a cargo aircraft any fatalities will be kept to a minimum, yet I still greatly hope the pilots survived...

Ian.



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User currently offlineDeltaWings From Switzerland, joined Aug 2004, 1294 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 11861 times:

Was it one of the Vintage DC-3, I konw, they do Sightseeing flight in Florida?


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User currently offlineFLAIRPORT From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 11810 times:

wow...this looks horrible, hope the pilots got out alive. fort Lauderdale has had some bad incidents lately...thank God that so far none have ended up in serious problems

User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 11766 times:

On the footage just showed on the news, the aircraft was not too broken up (wings, tail, body, all where they should be), but it was badly burned and looked gutted. Hopefully the pilots were able to get out before the cockpit burned up. Also, it looked as though it crashed in the middle of a street in a residential neighborhood.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineIanatSTN From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 577 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 11667 times:

From the picture here...

http://www.nbc6.net/news/4603028/detail.html

... it definitely looks more like a DC3.

Cheers,
Ian.



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User currently offlineIanatSTN From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 577 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 11570 times:

Quoting FLAIRPORT (Reply 29):
Update...3 on board.

Any update as to whether they got out ok?

Ian.



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User currently offlinePHLapproach From Philippines, joined Mar 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 20
Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 11552 times:

I swear to god, the news said it was a DC-10. How the hell can you confuse a DC-3 and DC-10.

BTW, it channel 4 in FLL

[Edited 2005-06-13 22:24:22]

25 Newark777 : the entire area is ash I think that white stuff is firefighting foam, and not ash. Harry
26 MIASkies : stop the rumors! IT IS A DC-3!
27 GARUDAROD : 1pilot and 2 passengers reported Ok. CBS4 did report a DC10, but its definitely a DC3.. Location is near NE56th St and Commercial Blvd reported to be
28 PROSA : The live video off the NBC TV site had some closeup shots of the wreckage. I'd say the impact likely was surviveable, it all depends on whether the cr
29 FLAIRPORT : PHL...I understand now...considering FLL has a lot of pilots who know what the are doing and understand whats going on, their news coverage of plane c
30 Bennett123 : The props on the starboard engine look OK, unlike the props on the port engine. Also it looks more like a belly landing followed by fire than a crash.
31 Post contains links USAFHummer : http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp...8oS2qvGDqRkTT1lJCV3HNyoEB4Hw%3d%3d This is a link to a map of the area...FXE is the airport on the left side, a
32 Post contains images Newark777 : The props on the starboard engine look OK, unlike the props on the port engine. Which means they probably weren't spinning... Harry
33 GARUDAROD : Plane was a Freighter operating to the Islands, most like the Bahamas. The FAA just reported it was departing Executive airport.
34 PHLapproach : Yea, a few people told me about it. Then my grandmother called me up, and said the new said it was a DC-10. Then when they came back and said oh mista
35 Post contains images Newark777 : I had already posted and made myself look like a jackass. Did you see how many post I got that said "Are you serious"? Hey, don't feel bad, I once sta
36 Snn2003 : my live feed just broke to the jackson trial...damn that man...
37 GoAllegheny : Let's just say that, regardless of the cause of the accident, the pilot did a great job of bringing the plane down and hopefully surviving. It's one t
38 PROSA : And I'll bet it's even harder to land the cripped aircraft in the middle of a narrow tree-lined residential street.
39 Armada : What the hell? One of the fire trucks caught on fire now?
40 Post contains links Newark777 : Picture of the crashed plane: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-06-13-plane-crash_x.htm Here's a great slide show of the incident: http://www.n
41 Post contains links and images Dash8tech : MSN say it's this registration... View Large View MediumPhoto © Chuck Slusarczyk Jr. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8206866/
42 EK156 : And he is Innocent.... lol
43 EMBQA : The props on the starboard engine look OK, unlike the props on the port engine. I agree... Looks like a left engine failure due to the lack of damage
44 Jetpixx : I work right next to FXE - our building is at 2200 West Cypress Creek - overlooking the runway.....and people driving in for the night shift said they
45 Rampkontroler : Thank goodness the pilots are alive. I wish them well. They should be highly commended for getting the plane down where they did, and not on all those
46 FlyMIA : DC-3 are very common in Miami. They still fly all around the US. Not in passenger service. DC-3 are used for cargo alot in the carribean. Thank god i
47 Post contains links Vr-hkg : Yup, that registration matches the owner name given by NBC6 in an earlier post. More pics here: http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...rt_order=year+d
48 KFLLCFII : My buddy lives right next to 56th st across from Northeast High School, no more than 1/2 mile down the street from the crash site. He said he was outs
49 Post contains links and images Rampkontroler : Here's a close up: MyAviation.net photo: Photo © Chuck Slusarczyk Jr.
50 Post contains images Newark777 : Now, I'm not a critic of Fox News, but they just had a preview of the coverage of the crash, and they said something like, "Stay tuned to learn about
51 Vr-hkg : What is with all these third-party sites that have near-identical interface to a.net - are they ripping this site off, or licensing its engine?
52 Newark777 : What is with all these third-party sites that have near-identical interface to a.net - are they ripping this site off, or licensing its engine? myavia
53 Post contains images Xpfg : MyAviation is ran by one of the admin's here, and licenses the engine.
54 Post contains links and images Paul777 : KL 911, a few years ago I lived in Charlotte, NC and there was an air freight company called Saber that flew various DC3's. Not sure if they are still
55 Stirling : On my SBC homepage... The story is accompanied by a picture of an American 767. Yeah. That's close......in that their both airplanes (The DC-3)
56 Fpofllflyboi : Many of the witnesses in the area, specifically a pilot who works out of FXE, said that he heard the engines of the DC-3 which was pretty loud. In fac
57 N867BX : They still fly in the US and surprisingly enough are not flown by Northwest.
58 Post contains links and images Newark777 : They still fly in the US and surprisingly enough are not flown by Northwest. I heard they are replacing the DC-9's with them. Modified Airliner Photos
59 Notacheezyname : Sounds like a cargo shift (newspaper load?) aft. Loss of control. SHIFT HAPPENS.
60 APFPilot1985 : I was on scene and was able to show Press Credentials (don't ask how) we still couldnt get too close I did get some pictures though. They arent too gr
61 Post contains links Sidewinder : Quoting KL911 (Reply 14): Does the DC-3 still fly in the US? I thought they only flew in some jungle somewhere.. Missionary Flights out of pbi still
62 Post contains links and images Newark777 : Missionary Flights out of pbi still flies them to Haiti. They like them so much they put turboprops on one of them. That is crazy, I have never seen t
63 Post contains links Sidewinder : Here is the link to their website showing all of their pilots I am sure they would be happy to answer your question. Thanks for the tip on the thumbn
64 Notacheezyname : Turboprop retrofits on DC-3 equipment has been around for ages. Years ago there was even a tri-engine DC-3 running around. Maybe still is?
65 Post contains links BaylorAirBear : Newark777 http://www.missionaryflights.org/Turbine%20DC3.htm Scroll to the bottom for performance specs of the turbo prop DC-3. BaylorAirBear
66 Dc8jet : By the way the aircraft was a C-117 which was the military version of the Super DC-3.
67 Post contains images MoodyBlues : A shame to see this loyal bird pass away. Glad the quick witted pilots are ok, may she rest in peace. I always smile when I see the old DC-3 that the
68 Litz : The irony of that is you could probably take the wings off the DC3, lay them alonside the fuselage, and it would fit INSIDE the circumference of the
69 Ikramerica : I would actually guess there ARE that many. I remember as a kid in the 70s American flew them San Juan to St. Thomas. That was a fun flight for a lit
70 CV990 : Hi! Just to let you know that the plane that crashed is NOT a DC-3 or C-47 but a C-117 or a Super DC-3. It's really sad to see such a rare plane like
71 Sprout5199 : Sad to see a nice old airplane go like that. Bravo-Zulu to the pilots for putting it down where they did. Missionary flights is a nice little org. her
72 Stall : What are the main differences between a DC-3 and a Super DC-3 ? Thanks !
73 Post contains links and images LGA777 : Here is a photo I took a few months ago of FXE, is the crash site visible in this photo ? View Large View MediumPhoto © Ron Peel Regards LGA777
74 RayChuang : I think the primary difference between a C-47 (standard DC-3) and C-117 (Super DC-3) is that the Super DC-3 has more powerful engines and a taller ver
75 Post contains links TransIsland : Be interesting to know, which DC3. Most of the DC3s we get in the Bahamas are classic silver, unlike the photo with the reg that NBC reported. The pho
76 LAPA_SAAB340 : What are the main differences between a DC-3 and a Super DC-3 ? In addition to that added above, the main landing gear retracts fully (notice the gear
77 Omoo : Saber is still around and they have a few DC-3's hangin around their hanger.
78 SLCSkyCaptain : My instructor is good friends with the pilot. I don't believe he has talked to him yet, but apparently everything is fine. With these cargo guys, they
79 Vr-hkg : Thanks guys. Are there any other sites that have licensed the a.net engine? I must have seen six or eight sites with identical or near-identical inte
80 Post contains links and images NADC10Fan : I think I can shed a little more light on this for you all. First, the reports that it was a DC-3 variant are correct, although the paper doesn't ful
81 LGA777 : For those of you following this story who are in the US the Captain will be interviewed live on NBC's National news tonight (Tues 6-14) which airs bet
82 MIAMIx707 : Yes that was the one that flew for Vintage on sightseeing flights. Quote from the Sun-Sentinel article "Technically called a Douglas Super R4D-8, the
83 Post contains links Bluewave 707 : The C-117D (R4D-8, Super DC-3) was stretched 39 inches, stronger engines, re-designed tail section, stronger landing gear that fully retracted under t
84 NASCARAirforce : Delta Wings, The Vintage DC-3 you are talking about was painted in Virgin colors, it was parked at Orlando Executive Airport ORL for a long time. Ful
85 Je89_w : Sad to see another Super go. Many of you already pointed the differences of a Super and a normal so no point of me adding the same info.
86 Rampkontroler : The Captain of this flight was interviewed on NPR yesterday, and the interviewer asked him if he was going to fly again...and in true pilot style, he
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