IADBGO From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 206 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2267 times:
I doubt that they would be moving widebodies to domestic since international flights is where they are actually making money. It doesn't make sense for them to move money making planes from the international routes.
DeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3623 posts, RR: 11 Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2154 times:
Wasn't LAX the only western city that got US widebodies?
A330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 47 Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2095 times:
Quoting DCAflyboy (Thread starter): Does anyone think US Airways will ever bring back wide-bodies to the West Coast? Or maybe just to PHX or LAS after the HP merger?
It seems likely that US will use the 767s to Hawaii and between the hubs after the A330-200s replace the 767s across the pond.
Quoting IADBGO (Reply 1): I doubt that they would be moving widebodies to domestic since international flights is where they are actually making money. It doesn't make sense for them to move money making planes from the international routes.
They do currently use a number of 762s to Florida and the Caribbean to increase utilization. During the summer, they serve BDA, CUN. During the winter, they typically serve MCO, CUN, SJU, NAS, STT.
Quoting DeltaRules (Reply 2): Wasn't LAX the only western city that got US widebodies?
LAS has had them too, and I think SFO might have had them very early on. In fact, LAS was rumored to be getting one from CLT this summer, but it would've stretched the fleet too tight.
I'm the expert on here on two things, neither of which I care about much anymore.
ScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6364 posts, RR: 34 Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2050 times:
Quoting A330323X (Reply 3): It seems likely that US will use the 767s to Hawaii and between the hubs after the A330-200s replace the 767s across the pond.
Actually, it seems more likely that the 767's will be retired as the A330-200's enter service. The US fleet of 767-200ER's currently has an average age of 16 years and I'd be surprised if the A330-200's aren't pushed back or entirely converted to A350 orders. By the same token, the 757 fleets at both US Airways and America West are getting up there in age.
Modesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2634 posts, RR: 6 Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1995 times:
SFO used to get US 762's...back in the early-mid 1990's, I flew PHL-SFO aboard a US 762.
Drerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 4906 posts, RR: 9 Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1974 times:
Is your info accurate A330323X? I don't remember US using the 767 to NAS, STT, or LAS. I also doubt they will use the 767s to Hawaii--HP plans on using 757s whether they merge or not. Besides--what is the capacity on those 767s? The 757 has a better seat/mile cost for the ops--remember those are 762s.
A330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 47 Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1743 times:
Quoting ScottB (Reply 4): By the same token, the 757 fleets at both US Airways and America West are getting up there in age.
The 757-2B7s are only 11 years old. The -225s, I agree, should be going soon, but they make up less than 1/3 of US's fleet.
Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 6): Is your info accurate A330323X?
No, I just make shit up, like everyone else on here.
Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 6): I don't remember US using the 767 to NAS, STT, or LAS.
Well, I don't know what to tell you. Here is a widebody schedule from this March showing 767 flights to STT. The NAS flights usually run in Dec-Jan, but I don't have an older timetable on this computer. LAS has been at least 4-5 years since it ran.
Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 6): I also doubt they will use the 767s to Hawaii--HP plans on using 757s whether they merge or not. Besides--what is the capacity on those 767s? The 757 has a better seat/mile cost for the ops--remember those are 762s.
Of course, cost is only half of the equation. The 762s would have better revenue performance to Hawaii (or the Caribbean, for that matter) than the 752s due to a larger premium cabin and greatly increased cargo lift. Also, weighing heavily in the 762's favor from the cost angle, 4 of the birds (40% of the fleet) are owned outright, free-and-clear by US.
I'm the expert on here on two things, neither of which I care about much anymore.
Padcrasher From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1688 times:
The 767-200 is just not the best option on Transcons today. It's operating costs are 20% higher than a 757. You might be OK with an early AM or late evening departures to attact some cargo revenue, but cargo revenue is way over blown.
I was looking at these AA 767s that operate in these markets and they hold just 156 passengers. Compare that with a Song 757 with 199 seats and you get a CASM that's likely only 60% of what AA must deal with.
One could argue that the Jetblue Airbus is more the right size than the 757.
Drerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 4906 posts, RR: 9 Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1639 times:
Quoting A330323X (Reply 8): Well, I don't know what to tell you. Here is a widebody schedule from this March showing 767 flights to STT. The NAS flights usually run in Dec-Jan, but I don't have an older timetable on this computer. LAS has been at least 4-5 years since it ran.
Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 6):
I also doubt they will use the 767s to Hawaii--HP plans on using 757s whether they merge or not. Besides--what is the capacity on those 767s? The 757 has a better seat/mile cost for the ops--remember those are 762s.
Of course, cost is only half of the equation. The 762s would have better revenue performance to Hawaii (or the Caribbean, for that matter) than the 752s due to a larger premium cabin and greatly increased cargo lift. Also, weighing heavily in the 762's favor from the cost angle, 4 of the birds (40% of the fleet) are owned outright, free-and-clear by US.
I was asking because I didn't know--thanks for clarifying that about the 762 in STT. As far as 762s to Hawaii--remember there is not a big demand for a premium cabin to Hawaii. The only benefit of a 762 to Hawaii would be the added cargo.
Iwok From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 1106 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1595 times:
Quoting DCAflyboy (Thread starter): Does anyone think US Airways will ever bring back wide-bodies to the West Coast? Or maybe just to PHX or LAS after the HP merger?
I'm flying SFO-HNL in two weeks on the triple 7. Looks like its going to be a great flight with the great IFE. Gotta love the T7.
Usairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3099 posts, RR: 8 Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1571 times:
762's have been flying to CUN, STT, and NAS in the winters for a while now. The A333 only flew PHL-MIA for a short time when the 333 first entered service for pilots/fa's to get accustumed to the new aircraft.
Lizzard71 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 15 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1516 times:
Quoting A330323X (Reply 8): No, I just make shit up, like everyone else on here.
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