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Jet Airways Postpones BOM-BRU-EWR To July End  
User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States, joined May 2005, 3280 posts, RR: 10
Posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2338 times:

As per Economic Times, Jet will delay the start of its BOM-BRU-EWR service to end of July as it needs more time to get all the necessary approvals. Looks like Jet has missed the peak season from American side and may also lose out on the student traffic from India to USA, as most make their plans early.

Perhaps they should use their A340s on Singapore and Kuala Lumpur sectors until they can start EWR service.

Link:
http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1141422.cms

[Edited 2005-06-14 00:14:35]

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User currently offlineKkfla737 From United States, joined Oct 2004, 1033 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2203 times:

Well, hopefully they'll get the approvals needed and the baseless allegations of the Jet Airways USA company will be dropped. Hopefully this date will not have to be pushed back again.

User currently offlineSnehnath From India, joined Apr 2005, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2070 times:

You can be pretty sure that Boeing is going to push for the approval for 9W given the recent 777 order.

User currently offlineTGV From France, joined Dec 2004, 804 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2046 times:

Quoting Snehnath (Reply 2):
You can be pretty sure that Boeing is going to push for the approval for 9W given the recent 777 order.

Or you can reverse the sentence, and guess that buying 777 was necessary to receive the required approval: after all this is what we are used to hear about Airbusses and CDG slots !


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User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States, joined May 2005, 3280 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1935 times:

Quoting TGV (Reply 3):
Or you can reverse the sentence, and guess that buying 777 was necessary to receive the required approval: after all this is what we are used to hear about Airbusses and CDG slots !

Another conspiracy theory- maybe there is something to it.

User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1886 times:

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 4):
maybe there is something to it

 Yeah sure

User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1842 times:

Another conspiracy theory- maybe there is something to it.

It's the same conspiracy theory.

This is standard counter charging. The party faced with a regulatory complaint denies the charge, and the complainant then files a countercharge that is even more far-fetched. It's a delaying tactic that many regulatory agencies face. When burdened with several petitions, they have to then create a docket which is then subject to greater scrutiny, etc. Of course, agencies do not like this, and tend to penalize such complainants in any future actions. Hope this petty little Maryland company gets its just desserts.

User currently offlineWestWing From United States, joined Feb 2005, 1579 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1661 times:

Update in this news item: Jet to fly to US in mid-August


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User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3768 posts, RR: 40
Reply 8, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1646 times:

will 9Ws BRU-EWR flights connect both ways with its BOM-CMB and BOM-SIN/KUL flights? or are they mainly aiming for that flight catering to the India-BRU-USA market?

User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States, joined May 2005, 3280 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1627 times:

It will be interesting to see what their load factors will be given that they would miss the peak season. Does anyone know what AI's load factors are in September-November period.

User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1648 times:

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 8):
will 9Ws BRU-EWR flights connect both ways with its BOM-CMB and BOM-SIN/KUL flights?

9W flies BOM-CMB and BOM-KUL? Do they know?

User currently offlineN77014 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1472 times:

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 8):
will 9Ws BRU-EWR flights connect both ways with its BOM-CMB and BOM-SIN/KUL flights? or are they mainly aiming for that flight catering to the India-BRU-USA market?

BRU is essentially just a fuel stop on BOM-EWR. Allegedly there is little BRU-BOM traffic.

User currently offlineNycank From United States, joined May 2000, 232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1391 times:

Quoting N77014 (Reply 11):
BRU is essentially just a fuel stop on BOM-EWR. Allegedly there is little BRU-BOM traffic.

I doubt it - There is enough demand to fly non-stop between Surat and Antwerp - Absent that, BOM-BRU makes perfect sense. Currently Surat area accounts for a heft chunk of India's 9B$ diamond polishing business.

User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States, joined May 2005, 3280 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1293 times:

As per Economic Times, delays from Weeks to months are possible. Will the Indian side retaliate in the future by sitting on approval applications from US airlines?

Quote:
David Modesitt from the office of the secretary of transportation, USA, told ET that clearances may take "from Weeks to months".

Link:
http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1151085.cms

User currently offlineN77014 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1246 times:

Quoting Nycank (Reply 12):
I doubt it - There is enough demand to fly non-stop between Surat and Antwerp - Absent that, BOM-BRU makes perfect sense. Currently Surat area accounts for a heft chunk of India's 9B$ diamond polishing business.

True. It is not like one can trust diamonds to be shipped via air freight.

User currently offlineAtmx2000 From United States, joined Oct 2004, 4576 posts, RR: 43
Reply 15, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1195 times:

Quoting N77014 (Reply 14):
True. It is not like one can trust diamonds to be shipped via air freight.

I would imagine trusting diamonds is not an issue. I never heard of a diamond deciding it doesn't want to get polished or go into distribution.  Wink

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 13):
Will the Indian side retaliate in the future by sitting on approval applications from US airlines?

No one is sitting on the application. Besides, some parties on the Indian side would benefit from Jet's delay.


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User currently offlineSam737 From India, joined Apr 2005, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1095 times:

me thinks that the reason that the permission for the US flights were delayed from the DGCA end itself is because 9w were falling short of quite a few million ASKMs in the domestic sector for cat2 and 3 routes. that's why the number of flights have been increased during the month of May and June as the DGCA needed to see substantial progress on 9w meeting these requirements.

User currently offlineNycank From United States, joined May 2000, 232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1066 times:

Quoting N77014 (Reply 14):
True. It is not like one can trust diamonds to be shipped via air freight.

 Smile I've seen on many a BRU-JFK trips; atleast few folks who arrive with a small briefcase/bag cuffed to their hands. I'm sure they are pretty heavily bonded too  Smile

[bond-themed music playing ... Diamonds are for ever...]

User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1069 times:

Quoting Sam737 (Reply 16):
me thinks that the reason that the permission for the US flights were delayed from the DGCA end itself

You give DGCA too much credit.

Part 129 authority takes time to obtain, in some cases longer than others.

User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2633 posts, RR: 16
Reply 19, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 934 times:

I think 15th August would be a perfect launch date for their operations


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User currently offlineWestWing From United States, joined Feb 2005, 1579 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 800 times:

9W had expected to receive the DGCA permit for US flights this past weekend. Did they get it?


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 27809 posts, RR: 61
Reply 21, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 679 times:

Whats the update on the 9W v/s Jet Airways inc dispute.
regds
MEL


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User currently offlineLO231 From Belgium, joined Sep 2004, 2185 posts, RR: 31
Reply 22, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 663 times:

Quoting N77014 (Reply 11):
BRU is essentially just a fuel stop on BOM-EWR. Allegedly there is little BRU-BOM traffic.

No, it's not only that. July and December are the heaviest months for BRU-India traffic, all connecting via ZRH, FRA or LON, but the rest of the year we're doing quite well, too. 99% of my customers are Indian diamond traders from Mumbai.

And we are like 6 travel agencies in proximity of 200 meters....

Regards,
LO231


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