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User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4165 posts, RR: 36
Posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 17359 times:

Airbus
Qatar Airways: 60 A350-800/900

Rumoured:
Kingfisher Airways: 5 A380, 15-20 A330/340/350, X A320

Boeing
Ryanair: 5 737-800
Sky Europe: 16+16 737-700
Qatar Airways: 20 777-300ER

ATR
Finncomm Airlines: 8+8 ATR 42-500
Air Caledonie: 2 ATR 42-500, 1 ATR 72-500

Embraer

Rumoured:
Paramount Airways: X Embraer 170 family


Flown: A319/320/321,A332/3,A380,AT4,AT7,B732/3/4/5/7/8,B742/4,B762/763,B772,CR2,CR7,ER4,E70,E75,F50/70,M11,L15,S20
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User currently offlineDalecary From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 17269 times:

I'd prefer to wait and see the breakdowns of these commitments. Most will be MoU/LOI and QR in particular hasn't spelled out the breakdown of orders/options(which could be 30+30 for the 350).
I'd put on rumours that EK will announce their 777 order but wait until Dubai Airshow in November to announce their 350 order.
I'd be a bit surprised if ILFC/GECAS didn't announce some fresh commitments at Le BourgetCould be for 32X/350 and/or 737NG/777/787).


User currently offlinePRGLY From Czech Republic, joined Dec 2004, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 16980 times:

Small summary after not full 2 days
ATR - TY 3x AT5/7, FC 8x AT5
Embraer - Paramount 5x E70
Boeing - FR 5x 738, QR 20x 777, GECAS 20 73NG, 9W 10x 772LR
Airbus - QR 60x 350, 9W 10x 332, ALAFCO 12x 358
what next to come?



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User currently offlineSquirrel83 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 16920 times:

Quoting Dalecary (Reply 1):
Rumoured:
Kingfisher Airways: 5 A380, 15-20 A330/340/350, X A320

I could have sworn it was a fact -

http://www.financialexpress.com/latest_full_story.php?content_id=93786


User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3262 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 16874 times:

Quoting Squirrel83 (Reply 3):
I could have sworn it was a fact -

Everyone except IT and Airbus seem to believe it's a done deal  sarcastic ! I wish IT and Airbus would move and make the announcement (or denial  Smile)



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User currently offlineBoogyJay From France, joined May 2005, 490 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 16875 times:

Not speaking about rumors now, we have:

Airbus:
- QR: 60 A358/A359
- 9W: 10 A332 (+10 options)
- Alafco: 12 A350 (+6 options)

Boeing:
- QR: 10 B773ER + 10 B772LR (splitted b'w pax and freighters version)
- FR: 5 B738
- Gecas: 20 B737
- 9W: 10 B772LR


(Edited: QR's Freighters)

[Edited 2005-06-14 13:45:47]
(Edited: Alafco's order  Wink )

[Edited 2005-06-14 13:48:14]

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 16812 times:

Quoting PRGLY (Reply 2):
Embraer - Paramount 5x E70

What sectors is Paramount Aviation Planning.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlinePRGLY From Czech Republic, joined Dec 2004, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 16713 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 6):
What sectors is Paramount Aviation Planning.

I wish to know either, they are startup carrier, may be some a.netter from India can give us some info. Paramount is not listed in this year JP at all.



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User currently offlineSquirrel83 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 16626 times:

PARIS AIR SHOW Airbus wins order for 12 A350s, 6 options from Kuwait leasing co

PARIS (AFX) - Airbus SAS said Kuwaiti leasing group ALAFCO has agreed to order 12 A350s, the European plane maker's rival to Boeing Co's 787 Dreamliner.

Speaking at the Le Bourget Air Show here, Airbus CEO Noel Forgeard said the order also comprises options for six more aircraft.

Deliveries of ALAFCO's A350-800s are due to begin in the third quarter of 2012. The plane is scheduled for a commercial launch in September this year.

The 12 aircraft would warrant about 2 bln usd based on list prices, although discounts are common.

Airbus has now secured 102 orders or agreements to order A350s. Forgeard earlier said the company expected orders to reach up to 120 during this week.


User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4186 posts, RR: 40
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 16590 times:

Airbus 82
Qatar 60x A350
ALAFCO 12x A350
Jet Airways 10x A330


Boeing 65
Ryanair 5x B737-800
Qatar 20x B777-200
GECAS 20x B737NG
Jet Airways 10x B777
Jet AIrways 10x B737-800

ATR 8
FinnComm 8x ATR42-500


EMBRAER 5
Paramount 5x ERJ-170

[Edited 2005-06-14 14:05:17]


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User currently offlineAstuteman From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 10116 posts, RR: 97
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 16511 times:
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Curiously, all Airbus "orders" (commitments probably a better word) are widebodies. I would have expected some narrowbody commitments sprinkled in.....

User currently offlinePRGLY From Czech Republic, joined Dec 2004, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 16419 times:

SkyEurope announceded 73G order well before, only new info was that thay will have winglets on


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User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 16354 times:

Next order announcement for Airbus , is tomorrow morning , probably around 12AM LT.
Does someone know when the next order announcement from Boeing will take place ? Would be great to know !!!!!!!!


User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 16257 times:

Incoming (?)

but making sure not in the shadow of Qatar..

Gulf Air delegation departs for Le Bourget with fleet proposal

A delegation of senior Gulf Air executives headed by James Hogan, the airline's President and Chief Executive, are in Paris for the air show at Le Bourget, which began yesterday and runs until the 16th.


http://www.ameinfo.com/62346.html


User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5301 posts, RR: 61
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 16183 times:

Quoting FCKC (Reply 13):
Does someone know when the next order announcement from Boeing will take place ? Would be great to know !!!!!!!!

ILFC in the next few minutes.



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User currently offlinePANAM_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4188 posts, RR: 89
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 15954 times:
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Quoting PRGLY (Reply 12):
SkyEurope announceded 73G order well before, only new info was that thay will have winglets on

That is correct. This is a previously announced order 12 of which will be sourced via GECAS whom ordered 6 frames to meet the requirement earlier this year. That leaves 4 more to be ordered by SkyEurope either direct from Boeing or via GECAS. Given the additional order from GECAS for 20 737s today the other 4 may well be part of that order.

Regards



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User currently offlinePRGLY From Czech Republic, joined Dec 2004, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 15852 times:

Have a look on www.justplanes.com for nice recap table


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User currently offlineUAL747-600 From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 588 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 15833 times:

ILFC order for 20 737 and 8 777

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User currently offlineTs-ior From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3488 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 15760 times:

Any news if Tunisair or any other Tunisian airline will place an order during the Paris Air Show ? It will make a decade or almost since the latest Tunisian order !!!

User currently offlineSq212 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 272 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 15686 times:

Brief order tally (day 1-2) A vs B:

A350 - 72
B737 - 55
B777 - 38
A330 - 10

Not bad for both camps.

Cheers.


User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7213 posts, RR: 57
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 15612 times:

Considering the opinion that Airbus are weak in the long haul market, these are quite positive results from Airbus.

The boeing 777 results are also very positive, but what surprises me is the paucity of 772ER (and all 340 variant) orders - is this market sector being squeezed by the 787/350?

Airbus had a 42% share for the first five months of 2005... wondering what it will be like by month end.



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User currently offlineStarrion From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1126 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 15509 times:

I am surprised at the lack or 787 from the lease co's. What 787 can we expect this week?


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User currently offlineAirRyan From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2532 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 15511 times:

Not intending to hijack this thread, but can somebody explain the Middle East passenger air-travel market to me? What in the world is in Qatar that warrants 60 A350's? How is the market in the Middle East so full of revenue potential?

I know Dubai in the UAE have made concerted efforts to increase tourism as they admit the oil will not last forever, but it's got to be more than tourism that has these Middle Eastern countries like Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia, etc. order so many large aircraft like the A380 and A350. Is the need or want to go to Europe that large?

I think the US commerical aviation market was ripe for meltdown regardless of 9/11, but how can the entire rest of the world between the Far East, Middle East, and Europe all have so much a better market for commerical aviation?


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 23, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 15431 times:

Does has anyone have a firm-option breakdown on the QR order?


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User currently offlineSq212 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 272 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 15351 times:

Quoting Starrion (Reply 22):

Related to this, A320 not in the tally is also a surprise.


25 BoeingBus : Dubai is become a hub for the world oppose to a country. I think it's going to be very likely that airline consolidation in Europe and Asia will be i
26 Revelation : So, we now have "orders", "agreements to order", "commitments", "options", "delivery positions", etc. Seems like airplane relationships are as compli
27 Post contains links Jacobin777 : "Airbus also announced a commitment from Kuwait-based international aircraft leasing company ALAFCO to buy 12 of its future A350 aircraft. The intenti
28 Incitatus : It's simple. Too much money available because of oil prices. The result is that Middle Eastern carriers will siphon off all traffic between Europe an
29 Jacobin777 : maybe that's why BA isn't going w/The WhaleJet
30 Post contains links SQuared : Not quite an order, but FlyBE has converted 4 Dash-8 Q400 options into additional firm orders. http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/afx/2005/06/14/afx2091
31 PM : Brave talk. It'll be a while before Airbus can claim more orders for the A350 than Boeing have for the 787. That said, pause to reflect that Qatar's
32 N60659 : Well, I may have a slight challenge to that. The QR order constitutes "up to" 60 airframes and is a mix of firm orders and options. The AC announceme
33 DAYflyer : Here is the real announcements as of this AM USA time: PARIS AIR SHOW: Digest Of Top Stories At 1500 GMT Tuesday June 14, 11:15 AM EDT *** Airbus CEO
34 PM : Whoops! If that's true then I withdraw my statement. But there seems to be some confusion regarding the status of these orders. Where is it stated th
35 BestWestern : That is an order -similar to FR's 5x738 option converson. Congratulations Canada
36 Post contains links N60659 : Totally agree. Dust definitely needs to settle. Several news stories reported the order using verbiage like "up to" or "as many as" in their reportin
37 Post contains links B2707SST : Actually, yes, one Airbus release does include "up to." Apparently another Airbus press release does not, so there is some confusion about the langua
38 BestWestern : Can I please ask our American colleagues to stop being so anally retentive - Airbus are counting the order as 60. If they (EADS) are willing to go to
39 N60659 : Perhaps you didn't read this: -N60659
40 Glom : That QR order is insane. 80 big twins!
41 Post contains images ERJ170 : Does everything have to be Americans vs everyone else? Americans are not trying to be supremist here.. for real... Because if we were.. .... it would
42 BestWestern : Now youve just wound up the Canadians and the Brazilians. God help us if they do try... It just seems that everything Airbus does, its either wrong,
43 ERJ170 : No Canadian or Brazilian can deny they are not American (North American Canadian & South American Brazilian).. either way, we are all in the Americas
44 Revelation : People in the US have seen lots of statements made by Enron, WorldCom, etc to stock exchanges also. It's not just an EU/US thing, there have been fin
45 KL808 : YES they are. They imply your gonna marry that person next week. LOL, I think you used the wrong analogy. Back to the topic, I cant wait to hear what
46 Katekebo : With all these discussion regarding "firm orders", "options", etc. I think it's worth to make a small clarification regarding business and accounting
47 PRGLY : so maybe you will have nicer evening - ATR reports 6 ATR72-500 for XK
48 Post contains images Revelation : Not to most of the women I've dated! All they wanted to hear was Option A. Thanks, Katekebo for your posting. One of the best things about this forum
49 RootsAir : Boeing 93 Ryanair 5x B737-800 Qatar 20x B777-200 GECAS 20x B737NG Jet Airways 10x B777 Jet AIrways 10x B737-800 ILFC 20x B737-700/800 ILFC 2x B777-200
50 AirFrnt : For this being Paris, it's surprising that Boeing has the lead on orders at the moment. Boeing also has higher booking value I would suspect, since al
51 Ikramerica : I am shocked by the events so far. Considering the emphasis Airbus places on the show (being in Paris) and the downplaying by Boeing, I am surprised i
52 NYC777 : Me too, I thought there would be more orders for Airbus thus far but tomorrow is another day. I suspect that we'll see the Kingfisher order - 5 A380 +
53 BestWestern : Thanks for such an insightful commentary! Words like suspect and probably show such lack of commitment in your statement. What utter rubbish.
54 Post contains links Keta : "He said the Airbus order would be worth US$10.6bn and the Boeing order US$4.6bn" http://www.qatarairways.com/6.2315.0.0.1.0.htm If it's 20 777's and
55 Post contains images LifelinerOne : At the press conference at 14th June, Foregeard said journalists said to "stay tuned" for more orders for the A320, A330, A350 and A380. He also said
56 Bennett123 : But the Airbus orders are A330/A350, which are presumably more expensive than a B737.
57 Flying-Tiger : Boeing 93 Ryanair 5x B737-800 Qatar 20x B777-200 GECAS 20x B737NG Jet Airways 10x B777 Jet AIrways 10x B737-800 ILFC 20x B737-700/800 ILFC 2x B777-200
58 N60659 : We could go a little more granular on this one (to be consistent with the others listed): Jet Airways 6 x B772LR Jet Airways 4 x B773ER -N60659
59 Ikramerica : No doubt. The A orders are all widebody while the B are 1/2 and 1/2. The 737 is far cheaper than an A330, let alone an A350. And of course the 777ER
60 BoeingBus : For a company that doesn't wait to announce orders during the air show... I must say that Boeing has announced much more than I have ever expected. Ju
61 Ikramerica : so far. I'm not "rooting" for either and think A has plenty up it's sleeve. but I also wonder that if they really had the A350s they claim, why launc
62 Atmx2000 : Those deal values are based on list prices, not actualy prices that the airline will pay. The discounts on those prices for launch customers are stee
63 Monteycarlos : Thats what I thought but when I posted in the SkyEurope orders winglets thread I was chopped down by people saying they had actually ordered the plan
64 Halls120 : Both A and B make great aircraft, and all this A v. B bashing is quite ridiculous, IMHO. All the claims about a 320 being better than a 737, etc., is
65 Monteycarlos : No, not likely. See unlike a lot of members here I look at these companies for what they are - companies. Not national football sides - just companie
66 PRGLY : 15 June update GECAS 10 350 TF 8 320 - first NB Airbus order
67 PANAM_DC10 : Answer, UPS ordered 100 A306Fs in one go. That is correct. The only new news is that they ordered Blended Winglets for the 16 announced earlier this
68 Post contains links and images Monteycarlos : Although they cancelled I think the point is that UPS would certainly have taken delivery of those frames without the A380 order. Something makes me
69 Post contains images PANAM_DC10 : They ordered 100 and will cancel 37 so that still leaves 63 Firm to be delivered. That's more than 60 irrespective of how you look at it. As stated,
70 Post contains images PM : It should NEVER have been considered French (except by the French) 'cause it never was. Damn! I think it was 80 rather than 100 but essentially you'r
71 Monteycarlos : I didn't realise they were still taking a majority of them. Thanks for the info. Because in the SkyEurope thread when I said that I got torn down and
72 Horus : 15 June update GECAS 10 350 TF 8 320 - first NB Airbus order MSC (Air Cairo) - 6x A318s (+2 options) Horus
73 AirbusDriver : Kingfisher 5 A380 5 A350 5 A330
74 RootsAir : Airbus 121 Qatar 60x A350 ALAFCO 12x A350 Jet Airways 10x A330 GECAS 10x A350 Tiger AIrways 8x A320 Air Cairo 6x A318 Kingfisher 5x A380 Kingfisher 5x
75 Post contains links PRGLY : GECAS 20 E190/195 see www.aviationheadlines.com - Daily aerospace/defense news (Yahoo)
76 PM : As I said earlier, I believe the order was for 80 rather than 100. In any case, they already have 44 (delivered between 2000 and last month) so they
77 Post contains links BoeingBus : Air Europa 18 737-800 http://yahoo.reuters.com/financeQuot...05-06-15_12-41-44_l15192135_newsml
78 PANAM_DC10 : 100 not 80, That sir is a fact. Don't do that, I enjoy your posts. You're most welcome and those who flamed you ignored my post which clarified the o
79 Monteycarlos : Wow! The orderbook for this aircraft is simply amazing this year! Is this due to the increased production or is the price a little lower now making i
80 PM : Just checked the Airbus website. They list UPS as having ordered 90 A300s (which is half-way between 80 and 100 so we were both wrong!). If they have
81 PANAM_DC10 : I didn't claim 63 remaining to be delivered PM though they will still have 63 of the original 100 frame order outstanding, once the 37 cancellations
82 Post contains links N60659 : FWIW this news release supports your statement: http://www.bizjournals.com/louisville/stories/2005/01/10/daily8.html -N60659
83 Monteycarlos : Not to mention the 17 ATR's... good orders for both ATR and Bombardier! Any news on QF's Q400's and when they'll enter service?
84 PANAM_DC10 : That's fair play sir. However the initial order was for more than 60 firm despite the benefit of hindsight. I accept your solution. See, I told you i
85 Post contains images PM : Certainly more than 60 and I should have remembered that yesterday. (But I still think it was 80... ) I'm off to walk my dogs.
86 Post contains links PANAM_DC10 : Whilst walking the dogs..... http://www.airbus.com/en/corporate/orders_and_deliveries/# You'll have to do a search under A300 & UPS which shows 90 fir
87 Dynkrisolo : Finally, someone got it almost right. It was 30 in 1998 which I believe was signed in 1999. Then they ordered 2 in 2000. In 2001, they ordered anothe
88 DL021 : SOmeone please clear this up for me. Has Qatar actually ordered the airplanes, or have they said they intend to? And did the press release say up to 6
89 Post contains links Sjoerd : Air Caraïbes : 2 A333s (LOI) http://www.airbus.com/en/presscentre...eleases/06_15_05_Air_Caraibes.html Sjoerd[Edited 2005-06-15 17:50:02]
90 PANAM_DC10 : They intend to though we are still awaiting the final composition. I'd assume that not all will be firm as their requirement was well reported as bei
91 Astuteman : This may be on other threads - didn't look, but Noel Forgeard said yesterday that the A350 launch delay has nothing to do with the industrial/market
92 RootsAir : Airbus 121 Qatar 60x A350 ALAFCO 12x A350 Jet Airways 10x A330 GECAS 10x A350 Tiger AIrways 8x A320 Air Cairo 6x A318 Kingfisher 5x A380 Kingfisher 5x
93 NYC777 : Airbus 121 Qatar 60x A350 ALAFCO 12x A350 Jet Airways 10x A330 GECAS 10x A350 Tiger AIrways 8x A320 Air Cairo 6x A318 Kingfisher 5x A380 Kingfisher 5x
94 KL808 : Both of you forgot the 2 A330-300 orders by Air Caraibes. Drew
95 Ikramerica : 110 737NG so far vs 14 A32X. That is a bit shocking to me. Maybe in the next few days we'll so some A-centeric LCCs adding to their A32X fleet. And wi
96 KL808 : EK will probably announce an order in the DXB airshow. China will order, but time frame is unknown. Drew
97 Chgoflyer : Good Point Monty... But change to another industry. lets say mining which the Aussie's are the world leader and let some other nation attempts to mov
98 Mariner : Most mining companies in Australia are majority owned by foreigners. cheers mariner
99 Bearcuban12 : Chgoflyer you muppett... You have been watching too much Crocodile Dundee....
100 Post contains links Daedaeg : www.justplanes.com has a pretty good summary of orders as well from the airshow. Wow, overall this year Boeing is doing terrific with 624 orders and c
101 Monteycarlos : You've made it painfully clear by that statement that you are afraid of a bit of stiff competition from Airbus. I stand by my comment that no matter
102 Mham001 : I think there is ample evidence that there is more to it than that. There are a multitude of quotes that the euros look at this a a national pride th
103 Mariner : Since the "Europeans" cannot even agree on a constitution, a currency or borders, it is hard to imagine any overwhelming degree of "European pride" i
104 Monteycarlos : I am not saying they don't do the same - many of them do, but for what its worth the rules of business still apply and when you remove the "pride" fa
105 11Bravo : Outside the realm of aviation enthusiasts, I think Airbus is much more a symbol of “national” pride for Europeans than Boeing is for Americans. I
106 PHXinterrupted : Boeing is not seen as a symbol of national pride, in fact, the average American probably doesn't know the difference between Boeing and Airbus. Boein
107 Mariner : Then my experiences during the twenty five years I lived in the United States are different from yours, I guess. cheers mariner[Edited 2005-06-16 04:
108 Post contains images Iwok : Montey, have to disagree with you here. PHX is correct, most people don't know the difference between the planes they fly, and there is very little n
109 Starrion : Boeing only needs 47 more orders to break it's all time sales record (exclusive of Mdd aircraft). 877 aircraft was the best year of both companies com
110 Monteycarlos : Thats fine but the quote was from Mariner, and that is also the quote which PHX responded to so... I take issue with the word "most" here... don't fo
111 PlaneSmart : Based on your definition, B should have NO 787 orders recorded. Neither A or B would prudently publicise an order until there was an agreement in pla
112 AirFrnt : Sorry, I just don't buy this. Did you even watch any of the launch ceremony in Paris for the A380? You would think it was the second coming of the ma
113 RootsAir : Boeing 148 Ryanair 5x B737-800 Qatar 20x B777-200 GECAS 20x B737NG Jet Airways 6x B777-200LR Jet Airways 4x B777-300ER Jet AIrways 10x B737-800 ILFC 2
114 Joni : In what way can't Europeans agree on currency and borders? Wrt constitutions, there are a large number of them on this continent and there's even a n
115 BestWestern : Alaska is 32*737-800, not 35 as three were previously ordered.
116 Toulouse : Sorry Mariner, but I don't agree with you here at all. I think Joni has more or less summed up the facts on this issue. "Europeans" have agreed on cu
117 Post contains images Dynkrisolo : Well, British still have their Pound Sterling, don't they? [Edited 2005-06-16 11:46:03]
118 Post contains images Scbriml : Meanwhile, back on topic.... Looks like Airbus is set to announce 100 A320s, plus more A350s. Is this a crazy year or what?
119 Mariner : (i) The constitution was defeated. (ii) The euro is not the universal currency of Europe. (iii) The borders are fluid - you cannot travel without a p
120 Nimish : Airbus 223 Qatar 60x A350 incl options ALAFCO 12x A350 Jet Airways 10x A330 GECAS 10x A350 Tiger AIrways 8x A320 Air Cairo 6x A318 Kingfisher 5x A380
121 PM : That's a bit misleading. In fact, it's wrong! Airbus is 80% owned by EADS. EADS is 30.2% owned by French interests. The French government have half o
122 Scbriml : With today's updates: Airbus 261 Qatar 60x A350 incl options ALAFCO 12x A350 Jet Airways 10x A330 GECAS 10x A350 Tiger AIrways 8x A320 Air Cairo 6x A3
123 NorCal : Maybe b/c we got it right the first time
124 RichardPrice : That explains all the amendments......
125 Post contains images Scbriml : No sooner said...
126 NorCal : Read what Joni wrote
127 WINGS : Well this basically sums it up pretty well, Airbus Narrow body= 144 Wide body= 117 Total= 261 Boeing Narrow body= 110 Wide body= 38 Total= 148 Regards
128 RichardPrice : I did, but you just CANT discount the amendments as the very fact that there are amendments means you didnt get it right first time. Its like saying '
129 Post contains images PANAM_DC10 : PlaneSmart With respect I understand you have responded to another forum member though I wish to say that, yes, I do believe that Boeing have done ju
130 Ikramerica : well it was about time. how much longer for announcements? do the public days continue to bring orders?
131 AirFrnt : Actually, compared to the existing European constitutions, the US one has been remarkably static. Not bad for being the first actual written constitu
132 Daedaeg : Ooops am I in the right thread? Is this the civics class thread? I could have sworn this was the Paris order summary thread. My bad.
133 Post contains images Ikramerica : Moderator: Please remove all post re: debates re: the merits of the two unions and two constitutions from the PARIS ORDERS SUMMARY thread. Give me a b
134 HAWK21M : Indigo's order sure Tilted the scales. 100 A320s,but over what duration. regds MEL
135 PANAM_DC10 : I concur. Let's keep this to Paris Orders and the EU Constitution debate can go to the appropriate Non-Aviation site. Back OT and Teahan has posted t
136 Post contains links Airbus A380 : CNA reported SALE has signed an agreement to buy three A319s for lease to Kingfisher Airlines. Was it signed at Paris? http://www.channelnewsasia.com/
137 Post contains links Jacobin777 : http://www.justplanes.com/ the front page has done a very good job in keeping the tally...
138 PRGLY : . Fully agrre, leave EU problems to the guys that met today in BRU, and leave PAR to aviation fans. Thanks everybody
139 DAYflyer : Good show for both companies so far. Boeing rarely ever announces orders at Paris so this is a good showing.
140 PANAM_DC10 : German Wings have ordered 18 + 12 A319s. Still another Airbus announcement expected too. Regards
141 Keesje : I think this is a good moment to burry this widely believed mantra. They announced for $15 Bill in Paris.
142 Post contains images PM : 58! See, I knew there was an '8' in it! We'll call it a draw.
143 Post contains images PANAM_DC10 : Given it's not too often we see a game of cricket end with a draw. Most definately Regards
144 PM : A cricket match between Australia and Tanzania might be a little one-sided. It'd be a brave man who put money on a draw!
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