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User currently offline747-600X From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2789 posts, RR: 15
Posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2265 times:

I know I read something about a 747 carrying 640 some out of an evac.zone some time, but don't remember how many, where, or when. Anyone know the official record holder (and the real one)???


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User currently offlineYEG 757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2142 times:

El Al airlifted about 1000 Jews out of Ethiopia 10 or 15 years ago on one of their 747's. I believe that is the world record, but I don't know the precise headcount.

User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7758 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2131 times:

Just for comparision I remember reading that JAL's and ANA 747-300/400SRs seat about 620.


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User currently offlineStlbham From United States of America, joined May 1999, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2129 times:

Yes this was the world record for the most people on a flight. It was a relief mission as mentioned above, a side note to add to the story was the plane actually landed with one more passenger than it took off with. There was a child that was born on the flight. If I remember reading right all the interior was removed to be able to hold this many people. Also I believe there were a few other planes that were a part of this mission.

Regards

Brian


User currently offlineTrvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2117 times:

747-600X, I think you are thinking about the Qantas 747 that carried around that amount out of Darwin some years ago because of a hurricane that hit the city hard. I dont have any more info, but that is what you're probably thinking about. I do think that the El Al Ethiopia thing is the record, though. Interesting about the child born.

Aaron G.


User currently offlineBrissie_lions From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2108 times:

Cyclone Tracey hit Darwin on Christmas Day, 1974. Up until 31 December some 25,000 people were evacuated out by air, and 7,000 by road.

A Qantas 747 airlifted 673 people out of Darwin taking them to shelter in Sydney.



User currently offlineSamurai 777 From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 2458 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2103 times:

The 747 carrying 648 people(that was the real headcount) was the one doing the evacuation flight out of Darwin on Dec. 24, 1974, before Cyclone Tracy hit on that fateful Christmas Day. It landed in Sydney.

The Ethiopian relief flight appears to take the prize, but in order to do that, the interior'd have to be removed until it's no different than a 747 cargo jet. Otherwise, there's no way a 747 could've carried a thousand and one people.

BTW, my parents and I were living in Canberra, the federal capital of Australia, at that time when Darwin got hit by the cyclone (that's what hurricanes are called there, mate).

Mike



User currently offlineSamurai 777 From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 2458 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2099 times:

Brissie Lions is right, and I'm wrong - the number of people who were on the Qantas 747 airlift out of Darwin. It was 673 people, not 648! This is confirmed on Qantas' website in its history section. That should stop any potential arguments about the accuracy.

User currently offlineCmul From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2076 times:

A Discovery Channel special on the 747, indicated 1100 people were on a 747 evacuating people out of a war in Zaire.(I hope I have the country right) It said 3 people were born on the flight.

Craig M


User currently offlineDee-see-eit From Spain, joined Jan 2000, 435 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2047 times:

I heard that 1200 were airlifted out of Botswana on an An124 and 8 were born on the 30 minutes flight...

Just kidding!


User currently offlineHypermike From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1001 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2045 times:

What if Southwest flew 747s? Could they squeeze 900 people onto one of those? I sure bet they'd try!

User currently offline747-600X From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2789 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2033 times:

Basically what you're saying is no one knows but it was a heck of a lot?


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User currently offlineSouthflite From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (14 years 2 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2016 times:

YEG 757 wrote:
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El Al airlifted about 1000 Jews out of Ethiopia 10 or 15 years ago on one of their 747's. I believe that is the world record, but I don't know the precise headcount.
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According to the El Al website (milestones) it was 1087 people. Date of the flight was May 24, 1991.


User currently offlineDnalor From Australia, joined Mar 2000, 369 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (14 years 2 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2001 times:

I read of a 727 that carried over 400 on a mercy flight in South America. The aircraft was rammed and shot at during its take off roll, the wheel wells and baggage holds were filled with people, one baggage door was left open, some of the trailing flaps were damaged by gunfire and ramming, the captain levelled off at about 1500 feet and kept the speed low to protect the exposed passengers. I saw the airbourne pic and story in Airliners or Airways magazine.

User currently offline747-600X From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2789 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (14 years 2 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1988 times:

And you thought ATA was good at cramming people in!


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User currently offlineSammyk From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1689 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (14 years 2 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1990 times:
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Dnalor, I read that article also, I believe that was in South East Asia (Vietnam??) and it was an aircraft belonging to World Airways...quite impressive, just shows how tough and versatile the 727 is.

Sammy


User currently offlineSouthflite From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (14 years 2 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1966 times:

I knew I had an article on that Cyclone Tracy disaster in Darwin, Australia in one of my old aviation magazines ... a slow Sunday meant I had time to look for it, and here it is:

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AIRLIFT! The Darwin Rescue

Devastation, death and destruction. Hardened aircrews taking in part in one of modern history's greatest mercy airlifts winced as they gazed out over what had once been a thriving city - Darwin, the city which died when nature ran amuck on Christmas Day, 1974.

More than 25,000 people were airlifted out of the devastation in the first six days of the rescue operation by a massive fleet of aircraft consisting of Lockheed Hercules, DHC Caribous, BAC 1-11s, C-141 Starlifters, Boeing 727s, 707s, 747s, Douglas DC-9s, Fokker F.27s and F.28s and a host of smaller aircraft drawn from the air forces of Australia, New Zealand and the United States, as well as from airlines such as Qantas, TAA, and Ansett. Also playing a major role were the smaller airlines and general aviation operators.

Many Australian and world records for numbers uplifted on individual flights were shattered during the airlift which fanned out from Darwin to the four corners of Australasia.

A typical Hercules load was 135 people including stretcher cases; on a Boeing 707 up to 303 passengers were accommodated (the normal seating was 156); and Starlifters evacuated up to 353 people on each flight.

But the Boeing 747s shattered all records for uplifting passengers. On three flights into Sydney these aircraft carried respectively 633, 699, and an incredible 708, which is believed to be an alltime world record.

Night curfews on jet movements in Sydney were withdrawn for the duration of the airlift.

On northbound journeys to Darwin all aircraft carried capacity loads of volunteer helpers, doctors, and nurses, as well as urgently-needed supplies of medical equipment, clothing and food donated on an unprecendented scale private individuals and the Federal and State governments.

The 22kg per person maximum baggage allowance posed no real problem as most evacuees had lost all their possessions when Cyclone Tracy swept through the sleeping city.

No-one knows exactly to what speed the cyclone's winds peaked, but before instruments at the local weather office were smashed a recording of 259 kph was registered.

As a direct result of the colossal damage to hospitals and homes - some were literally wiped off the face of the earth - lack of water and power and the threat of disease, the director of Australia's Natural Disaster Committee, Major-General A.B. Stratton, ordered the immediate evacuation of between 50 and 65% of the total population using every available civil and military aircraft in the country.

As the massive airlift swung into action, 3,000 people were evacuated on Boxing Day and this figure was increased to 6,500 the following day and still further to 7,500 on the 28th.

Reception areas set up to care for arriving evacuees at major airports and military air bases were reminiscent of post-war European refugee camps.

No single event since the outbreak of World War II and the Japanese bombing of Darwin has so united the Australian nation as this disaster.

[source : Henry Krug : World Airnews, February 1975]
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That max. pax figure doesn't agree with the one on the Qantas website, but I guess it doesn't matter anyway - the El Al uplift of Ethiopians in 1991 was far greater!

Hope this article extract helps to paint a picture for those who were too young to remember this particular disaster & rescue (which includes me!).


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