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DL To Hit 200 Destinations From ATL...  
User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 6860 times:

This thread is more to settle a bet, but DL is about to announce another destination and when that announcement comes DL will be over 200 destinations from ATL during one week in September. Presently there are 199 destinations at around 1,037 daily departures from the World's Largest Airport. The destinations (minus unannounced)....

ABE
ABQ
ABY
AEX
AGS
ALB
AMS
ANC (Seasonal Disc. 11SEP)
APF
ATW (Eff. 01SEP)
AUA
AUS
AVL
AVP
BCN (Seasonal Disc. 01OCT)
BDA
BDL
BHM
BNA
BOG
BOI
BOS
BPT (Disc. 30JUN)
BQK
BRU
BTR
BUF
BUR
BWI
CAE
CAK
CCS
CDG
CHA
CHO
CHS
CLE
CLT
CMH
COS
CRW
CSG
CUN
CVG
CZM
DAB
DAY
DCA
DEN
DFW
DHN
DSM
DTW
DUB
EGE (Seasonal Eff. 15DEC)
ELP
EVV
EWR
EYW
EZE
FAY
FCO
FLL
FLO
FNT
FPO
FRA
FWA
GCM
GDL
GIG (Eff. 01OCT)
GNV
GPT
GRR
GRU
GSO
GSP
GTR
GUA
GUC (Seasonal Eff. 15DEC)
HDN (Seasonal Eff. 15DEC)
HKY
HNL
HOU
HPN
HSV
IAD
IAH
ICT
ILM
IND
ISO
ISP
JAC (Seasonal Disc. 24SEP, Reinstated 15DEC)
JAN
JAX
JFK
LAN (Eff. 01SEP)
LAS
LAX
LEX
LGA
LGW
LIM
LIR
LIT
LWB (Seasonal Disc. 30OCT)
LYH
MAD
MAN
MBJ
MCI
MCN
MCO
MDT
MDW
MEI
MEM
MEX
MGM
MHT
MIA
MKE
MLB
MLU
MOB
MSP
MSY
MTY
MUC
MXP
MYR
NAS
NRT
OAK
OKC
OMA
ONT
ORD
ORF
PBI
PDX
PFN
PHF
PHL
PHX
PIA
PIT
PLS
PNS
PTY
PVD
PWM
RDU
RIC
RNO
ROA
ROC
RSW
SAL
SAN
SAT
SAV
SBN
SCL
SDF
SEA
SFO
SHV
SJC
SJD (Seasonal)
SJO
SJU
SLC
SMF
SNA
SNN
SRQ
STL
STR
STT
STX
SVO
SXM
SYR
TLH
TOL
TPA
TRI
TUL
TUP
TUS
TYS
UVF
VLD
VPS
XNA
YOW
YUL
YVR
YYZ
ZRH


It's a big building with patients, but that's not important right now.
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User currently offlineRDUDDJI From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1468 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 6462 times:

DL's hub at ATL is astounding. Is that 1037 mainline flights? I know they had like 800 mainline flights 3-4 years ago...


Sometimes we don't realize the good times when we're in them
User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 6377 times:

Quoting RDUDDJI (Reply 1):
DL's hub at ATL is astounding. Is that 1037 mainline flights?

No that is Mainline and DCI. Mainline is 671/day and DCI is 366/day.



It's a big building with patients, but that's not important right now.
User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6422 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 6244 times:

Quoting DeltaMIA (Thread starter):
This thread is more to settle a bet, but DL is about to announce another destination and when that announcement comes DL will be over 200 destinations from ATL during one week in September. Presently there are 199 destinations at around 1,037 daily departures from the World's Largest Airport.

ATL isn't the world's largest airport.

And yes, I'm being picky.



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlinePadcrasher From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 6217 times:

So why isn't ATL the largest airport?

User currently offlinePadcrasher From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 6211 times:

Airports.org keeps passenger and movement data on World airports

http://www.airports.org/cda/aci/disp...ci_content.jsp?zn=aci&cp=1-5_9_2__


User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 6183 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 3):
ATL isn't the world's largest airport.

All information I have has ATL as the world's largest airport.
They have the world's largest hub by a very wide margin. The next closest hub is AA's DFW with about 813 daily departures.
UA's ORD has 639 daily flights.
CO's IAH has 667 daily flights.
DL has more departures just out of ATL than what B6 and FL have combined for their entire flight system.



It's a big building with patients, but that's not important right now.
User currently offlinePadcrasher From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 6170 times:

Maybe he's going by land size? DFW?

User currently offlinePadcrasher From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 6142 times:

Well DFW is third in terms of land mass. 2nd in US. Have no idea 1 and 2.

User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 6091 times:

Quoting Padcrasher (Reply 8):
2nd in US. Have no idea 1 and 2.

Largest in the US would be DEN in land area.

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 3):
ATL isn't the world's largest airport.

And yes, I'm being picky.

Yeah I guess I should have used busiest.



It's a big building with patients, but that's not important right now.
User currently offlineEK156 From United Arab Emirates, joined May 2005, 765 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 6048 times:

Are all the 200 Destinations International? ... How many are national within the US and how many are International - outside the US?

User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5962 times:

Quoting DeltaMIA (Reply 9):
Yeah I guess I should have used busiest.

Though that is not (yet) correct either, but should be by the end of the year  Wink .
Land-wise the biggest airport in the world is Rijadh, Riyadh, however you spell it, DEN's 2nd, and DFW third.

Quoting EK156 (Reply 10):
Are all the 200 Destinations International?

No.

Quoting EK156 (Reply 10):
How many are national within the US and how many are International - outside the US?

Out of the list above, 45 are international, the rest is domestic.

Personally, I would have hoped that destination #200 would have been in China, but the DOT didn't play along.
Btw. DeltaMIA, isn't YVR only a seasonal destination as well?


User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5820 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 11):
Btw. DeltaMIA, isn't YVR only a seasonal destination as well?

Not anymore. It will be serviced year round when a 738 replaces the 763 in the offseason.



It's a big building with patients, but that's not important right now.
User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11528 posts, RR: 61
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5730 times:

Quoting DeltaMIA (Reply 6):
The next closest hub is AA's DFW with about 813 daily departures.

Slight correction -- it's 833 daily flights, not 813, to a total of 153 cities (plus or minus a few). Still not DL in ATL, but it is as close as any other airline at any other hub gets!


User currently offlineMoPac From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5721 times:

Quoting DeltaMIA (Thread starter):

...
COS
CRW
CSG
...

Was/is CRP axed ?


User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6422 posts, RR: 17
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5703 times:

Quoting DeltaMIA (Reply 9):
Yeah I guess I should have used busiest.

BINGO. See, I told ya I was being picky. Big grin

Anway, it would be nice to see DL/DCI add service to PIE and Lakeland, Fl.



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlineHirisk From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 223 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5682 times:

DL is also starting monday offering CVG to bermuda w/ 767's.


happy contrails
User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6422 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5643 times:

From 2004:
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004547.html

ATL is about 8 million ahead of ORD.

I have a question.

If a little old lady that knows jack about airlines, goes to a travel agent in West Palm Beach, and wants to fly to Syracuse. The agent books her on a DL flight that connects in ATL. Now is she part of that ATL figure?



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3471 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5489 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 11):
Though that is not (yet) correct either, but should be by the end of the year .

ATL has overtaken ORD by both movements and passengers if that's what you're referring to.

Jeremy


User currently offlineJkudall From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 615 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5446 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 17):
The agent books her on a DL flight that connects in ATL. Now is she part of that ATL figure?

Absolutely. Do you think ATL got to the number where they are at based on O/D traffic alone??


User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3471 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5426 times:

Quoting Jkudall (Reply 19):
Absolutely. Do you think ATL got to the number where they are at based on O/D traffic alone??

Obviously not, but ATL did have over 30 million O&D passengers last year.

Jeremy


User currently offlineMidway2AirTran From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 864 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5263 times:

Such an incredible accomplishment can also be a problem. Being too agressive toward Hub-Spoke leads to too much connecting traffic and drops in revenue generated, hence IMO the reason for Delta's snowballing cash flow situation. ATL is a very strong O&D market, but IMO there is no way that can accompany a 1000+ flights a day realistically speaking. I personally think that the DFW pullout may make the situation worse(opinion, yet to be determined).

I suggest they need to balance it out either by point-to-point, focus cities or new hubs more proportioned in size to O&D numbers there. DL has done a little of this with Song and other service, but it will take more than the little steps have have been already made. There are still 1000+ flights out of ATL!

Balance is the key to any business/industry for continued stability and positive growth, afterall, look at Southwest.



"Life is short, but your delay in ATL is not."
User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5226 times:

Quoting MoPac (Reply 14):
Was/is CRP axed ?

No, it didn't I probably left 1 or 2 out.

Quoting Hirisk (Reply 16):
DL is also starting monday offering CVG to bermuda w/ 767's.

That is just a one time charter. Departed today will return on 06/23. However there are a bunch of CVG destinations that started 01JUN that were unpublicized, for instance ILM and MGM.



It's a big building with patients, but that's not important right now.
User currently offlineFLAIRPORT From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5152 times:

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 20):
Obviously not, but ATL did have over 30 million O&D passengers last year.

but still a rough number of 70% connecting! CRAZY!


User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6422 posts, RR: 17
Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5081 times:

Quoting FLAIRPORT (Reply 23):
but still a rough number of 70% connecting! CRAZY!

Exactly. It's just strange for ATL to brag about numbers when a majority of them have NOTHING to do with ATL itself.



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
25 Padcrasher : What do you mean brag? Any airline that had the most number of passengers would put that out. DFW lets people know about their land mass. LHR lets' pe
26 Padcrasher : The rolling hub system put in place in ATL not long ago has actually lessened the burden on ATC to move flights in/out of ATL. So much so that Delta
27 FlyPNS1 : These routes started many months ago. CVG-MGM was launched on Jan 31 as part of the route overhaul. CVG-ILM was launched on Dec 1, 2004. This route c
28 DeltaMIA : Sorry put it next to the wrong city. For the correct city it should read 05SEP. So I see, I don't pay much attention to CVG. Maybe on 01JUN they were
29 COEWR777 : Is there a site i can go to to see all the figures for airlines hub operations like daily departures etc...
30 Post contains links Padcrasher : This is a great site. But you must download the data to a spread sheet. For instance you can take a particular Month. And pull up each airlines' numbe
31 B741 : ORD is still first in movements. That would include military movements also. A number of years ago I seen a KC-135 taxi above the freeway.
32 Padcrasher : Airports.org is saying ATL is #1 in movements. What's your source? Year to date Monthly 12 months Year to date Aircraft Movements February 2005 Last u
33 B741 : If I remember correctly there was a mistake on the website. ORD is around 992,000 movements. I could still be wrong though. ATL and ORD seem to be alw
34 Post contains images September11 : ORD & ATL airport design completely different ORD - photo on left ATL - photo on right ATL has the advantage...
35 Cubsrule : ATL ought to have more movements than ORD now after the DFW pulldown and the schedule restructuring (depeaking) in late January. ORD will eventually l
36 Zone1 : What is going on at Dulles? Is an increase of 58.1% a typo?
37 Padcrasher : Must be all those Indy RJs.
38 TinPusher007 : Not at all...its called Indy. Since they essentially fly the same routes as UA/UEX....there is a large increase in traffic than before. Besides that,
39 Midway2AirTran : Depeaking the hub has worked for operations, but my comments were in a revenue perspective, not operational. Revenues to the airline are reduced when
40 Padcrasher : That's kind of what they've been doing domestically despite the growth in ATL. The majority of growth has been Song and the hundreds of RJ flights up
41 DAL767400ER : Excellent. Hadn't even realised that the flights was upgraded to a 763 other than on Saturday. And about DL starting p2p service, it's not like DL is
42 ERJ170 : Has E70 schedule 1 been loaded yet? Don't they take delivery this month or next? Wouldn't first revenue flight be in August?
43 Post contains links Bond007 : This will give real-time top US airports for arrivals in past 24 hrs. Give it a little time to calculate. ATL/ORD are usually almost the same: http://
44 MAH4546 : Can't wait to see what else is in store. Look for FLL-GSP, FLL-CAE, and FLL-EYW to be announced this fall. FLL-HSV and FLL-SAV (SAV didn't work from
45 Post contains images DAL767400ER : You could also have written "Look for new service to markets that are already served from MCO and/or TPA ." There's some 13 markets served from MCO b
46 FLAIRPORT : Still waiting for FLL-GVL! How is DL doing on their CHQ routes from FLL?
47 Midway2AirTran : Many of these are also regional jet routes, 50-70 seats, it is better than having them feed the hub though. I mentioned some efforts (Song and the fe
48 FLAIRPORT : Where are these few mainline?
49 FlyPNS1 : Most of these routes will be starting in the next few weeks. The only exception being TPA-BNA which DL has not announced.
50 MAH4546 : The Miami/Lauderdale area is actually Gulfport's second largest O&D market, more than fives times bigger than the Orlando-Gulfport market. Though, wi
51 OttoPylit : Delta could probably make a killing by sending in, say, 4 CRJ flights a day into LAL during Sun n Fun. But it would put a halt to the airshow until t
52 Post contains images DAL767400ER : CDG-MAA . Actually, all non-hub flying is either Song or Delta Connection, or has been operated for years, like SFO-HNL. Mark, interesting O&D info y
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