Venezuela747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1407 posts, RR: 5 Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3700 times:
Would strong winds accross the Pacific cause the A345 to have to refuel in ANC.....Do you know if SIN-EWR had to make a stop????
TonyBurr From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 982 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3679 times:
Coming from BKK-JFK the winds would be tail winds, so would actually help the flight. If you were going JFK-BKK heading into the winds it could effect fuel burn.
LUV4JFK From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 462 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3277 times:
Speaking of this flight, the last couple of times I've noticed this flight is almost always delayed (with a tailwind). It usually shows up a half an hour late. I don't believe it's because of congestion at BKK because this flight leaves after midnight. Do you think Thai Airways was ahead of themselves with the timing of the flight? Does the return flight to BKK arrive on time?
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6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3265 posts, RR: 22 Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2863 times:
Quoting LUV4JFK (Reply 3): I don't believe it's because of congestion at BKK because this flight leaves after midnight. Do you think Thai Airways was ahead of themselves with the timing of the flight? Does the return flight to BKK arrive on time?
I suggest you take a good look at the BKK schedule.
midnight is actually a major peak time, especially for departures to Europe. Pretty much all BKK-Euro flights departs 23.30-1.30. Here is just a sample for you...
Airline Aircraft type Origin airport code Destination airport code Departure time Arrival time
Air France BKK CDG 2305 0615
Air France BKK CDG 2305 0615
Austrian BKK VIE 2330 0525
Austrian BKK VIE 2330 0525
British Airways BKK LHR 2310 0520
British Airways BKK LHR 2310 0520
EVA Airways BKK VIE 2240 0500
EVA Airways BKK VIE 2315 0530
Finnair Boeing BKK HEL 0020 0645
KLM-Royal Dutch Airlines BKK AMS 2305 0530
Lufthansa German Airlines BKK FRA 2355 0600
Lufthansa German Airlines BKK MUC 2310 0550
Lufthansa German Airlines BKK MUC 2310 0550
Qantas Airways BKK LHR 0025 0645
Royal Brunei Airlines BKK FRA 2250 0540
Royal Brunei Airlines BKK FRA 2250 0540
SAS Scandinavian Airlines BKK CPH 0020 0630
Swiss Airbus A340-300 BKK ZRH 2335 0625
Thai Airways BKK ARN 0110 0650
Thai Airways BKK ATH 0035 0705
Thai Airways BKK CDG 0005 0705
Thai Airways BKK CPH 0120 0725
Thai Airways BKK FCO 0005 0635
Thai Airways BKK FRA 2345 0600
Thai Airways BKK LHR 0110 0715
Thai Airways BKK MAD 0005 1010
Thai Airways BKK MXP 0015 0655
Thai Airways BKK ZRH 0030 0710
Turkish Airlines BKK IST 0045 0645
Turkish Airlines BKK IST 0045 0645
And the list excludes 23.00-1.00 departures to Asia pacific and North Asian destinations eg, MEL, ICN, NRT etc etc
Thaiaggie From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 229 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2787 times:
6thfreedom is right. BKK during 11:00-01:00 are very busy. I remembered my KE flight to ICN and DFW last year, we waited almost 20 minutes after left the gate before actually took off.
Malaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3183 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2431 times:
yeah but luckily my QF 01 flight took only 10 minutes to get to take off but TG JFK just pushed out after us, had to depart 20 minutes late due to incoming crew.
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A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9067 posts, RR: 13 Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2224 times:
Wow, I didn't know it was peak hour between 23:00 and 01:00 in BKK. Is it the same at other Asian airports, like SIN, KUL, ICN, NRT, TPE? Funny to see how the time difference can determine peak hours at airports worldwide
Soundtrack From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 284 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2207 times:
BKK is one of few with THIS MUCH ACTIVITY AT THIS HOUR AND THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT...
Dubai and Bangkok and Singapore I found to be the truly busier than usual 24 hr airports.
Tokyo NARITA is DEAD at midnight - doors locked!!!!
Hong Kong CLK, and Taipei have some activity at night - like cargo and some pax.
NOW back to the question - why was TG diverted - FUEL or OTHER?
6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3265 posts, RR: 22 Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2197 times:
Quoting A388 (Reply 8): Wow, I didn't know it was peak hour between 23:00 and 01:00 in BKK. Is it the same at other Asian airports, like SIN, KUL, ICN, NRT, TPE?
It all has to do with geography and time zones.
KUL and SIN which are in the same time zome as BKK are more or less flat out at the time of the day also.
All MH and SQ flights for Europe depart around midnight, as well as some other flights to NE Asia and Australia...
Below are just the flights from SIN and KUL to Europe...
Air France SIN Paris Charles de Gaulle Apt 2320 0630
Austrian SIN Vienna 2335 0620
British Airways SIN London Heathrow Apt 2325 0555
British Airways SIN London Heathrow Apt 2355 0625
Czech Airlines SIN Paris Charles de Gaulle Apt 2320 0625
Finnair SIN Helsinki 2150 0645
KLM-Royal Dutch Airlines SIN Amsterdam 2255 0550
KLM-Royal Dutch Airlines SIN Amsterdam 2255 0550
Lufthansa German Airlines SIN Frankfurt International Apt 2305 0525
Qantas Airways SIN Frankfurt International Apt 2300 0540
Qantas Airways SIN London Heathrow Apt 0040 0715
Qantas Airways SIN London Heathrow Apt 0540 1215
Qantas Airways SIN London Heathrow Apt 2255 0530
SAS Scandinavian Airlines SIN Copenhagen Apt 2155 0630
Singapore Airlines SIN Amsterdam 2345 0715
Singapore Airlines SIN Athens Eleftherios Venizelos Intl.apt 0100 0720
Singapore Airlines SIN Paris Charles de Gaulle Apt 2340 0655
Singapore Airlines SIN Copenhagen Apt 0100 0755
Singapore Airlines SIN Rome Fiumicino Apt 0100 0740
Singapore Airlines SIN Frankfurt International Apt 2350 0630
Singapore Airlines SIN Istanbul 2325 0725
Singapore Airlines SIN London Heathrow Apt 2320 0550
Singapore Airlines SIN Manchester International Apt 2345 0830
Singapore Airlines SIN Manchester International Apt 2350 0650
Singapore Airlines SIN Zurich Airport 2345 0630
Singapore Airlines SIN Zurich Airport 2345 0630
Singapore Airlines SIN Zurich Airport 2345 0630
Swiss SIN Zurich Airport 2115 0625
Turkish Airlines SIN Istanbul 2210 0645
Austrian KUL Vienna 0035 0610
Austrian KUL Vienna 0035 0610
KLM-Royal Dutch Airlines KUL Amsterdam 2310 0540
KLM-Royal Dutch Airlines KUL Amsterdam 2310 0540
Malaysia Airlines KUL Amsterdam 2355 0635
Malaysia Airlines KUL Paris Charles de Gaulle Apt 2330 0620
Malaysia Airlines KUL Rome Fiumicino Apt 2359 0555
Malaysia Airlines KUL Frankfurt International Apt 2350 0625
Malaysia Airlines KUL Frankfurt International Apt 2350 0625
Malaysia Airlines KUL London Heathrow Apt 2340 0550
Malaysia Airlines KUL Vienna 2345 0530
Malaysia Airlines KUL Zurich Airport 2345 0615
RDUDDJI From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1312 posts, RR: 3 Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1820 times:
Quoting COSPN (Reply 11): Remember UA ORD-HKG...Didn't they Tow it to the Runway to save Taxi Fuel in the Summer ???
I seriously doubt that. ORD ground would probably shoot you if you asked to taxi under tow that far ORD is the busiest airport in the World by movements.
Heck, I've been chewed out by ground in RDU while brakeriding on TWY A before.
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A340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1973 posts, RR: 26 Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1779 times:
ArtBKK probably has it right, but even though this flight would normally have tailwinds, the winds this summer have been quite the opposite of normal of late. Some of our NRT flights to EWR have taken a much more southern route to make it on time due to the lack of tailwinds over Alaska and Northern Canada.
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