AirRyan From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2532 posts, RR: 5 Posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 7536 times:
Old news perhaps, but today the Prime Minister of Vietnam is in Seattle to consumate an agreement with Boeing for 4 new 787's.
Khai, a Soviet-educated economist, was to meet executives from companies like Boeing and Microsoft in the Seattle area. Vietnam is expected to sign a contract to buy four Boeing 787 "Dreamliner" planes, worth around $500 million, during Khai's visit.
AirRyan From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2532 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7217 times:
Intel is looking to build a chip plant in Vietnam and the business will only get more lucrative as wounds heal and time passes.
4 airframes now may not be huge, but I would take it as a good indicator that they are at least satisfied with their 777's they bought earlier, so although it's just four now, it's got to be good news for the future.
I don't have any information on engines for the VN order.
So far (again according to my little list), the only signed 787 orders that have specified engine selection are:
NH - 30 787-3 (firm) 20 787-8 firm 0 options - RR Trent 1000
NZ - 2 (unknown model) (firm) + 16 options - RR Trent 1000
DP - 6 787-8(firm) + 6 options - GE GEnx
IIRC, they are 787-8s. According to VN, they are/were to be used on long-thin routes, which initially meant flights from SGN/HAN to the West Coast of the United States (or at least they hinted as much). Now with VN set for entry into SFO in 2006 with the 772ER, the 787s won't likely be used on this route, when it enters service with VN in 2010.
So the question remains is where are these 787s going to go?
A distinct possibility is to replace the 777s on some flights to Japan.
Another is to open routes such as SGN-YVR, which might be low-yield with a 777, but may be sustainable with a 787.
There are lots of possibilities, and VN, is actively trying to become a regional player, competing with the likes of SQ, TG, & MH. It will be interesting to see how VN develops its route network over the next 5 years. I am almost certain more 787s will be ordered by VN, as, at least on paper, it is the perfect plane for a moderate sized, but growing airline.
SFORunner From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 325 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5328 times:
Quoting Chris777 (Reply 15): I was so surprised today when I saw a VietNam Airlines plane at SEA.I `ve been arriving around 8:45am an it was there.I didn`t know why it came since I haven`t seen it before.
The Prime Minister is in town visiting with Bill G and to sign that 787 deal with Boeing....
N60659 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 654 posts, RR: 23
Reply 21, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4355 times:
Quoting N60659 (Reply 2): Quoting B742 (Reply 1):
How many options do they have on the 787?
My informal, non-scientific list (Excel spreadsheet) shows zero options. If someone has better information, please feel free to correct me.
Well, I will correct myself. Based on the Boeing press release I guess they have announced 11 options:
"Vietnam Airlines plans for the 787 to be its future mid-sized, twin-aisle jetliner. The new airplanes, which are valued at $500 million at list prices, are scheduled for delivery in 2009 and 2010. The agreement also includes purchase rights for 11 additional airplanes in the 2010 - 2013 time frame."
SNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3254 posts, RR: 21
Reply 22, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4346 times:
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 20): Part of the sexiness, though, comes from the wavey Boeing livery. It's a visual trick that even makes the 772LR look sexier.
Actually, the only two types that the Dreamliner livery suits, in my opinion, are the B787 and the B717 (because they both have a similar low nose profile). But I'll drop it and refrain from hijacking this thread to bitch about the final B787 looks and the Dreamliner livery.
Nikon: we don't want more pixels, we want better pixels.