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User currently offlineQF744 From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 415 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2506 times:

I remember reading a little while back that Bali-based Air Paradise were looking to increase their fleet with additional aircraft.

Does anyone know what they are looking at and any thoughts on what they will try and lease/buy?

Any info appreciated.

Cheers

QF744


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21474 posts, RR: 60
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2486 times:

I don't know, but cool name.


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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12082 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2460 times:
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Air Paradise leased a B738, not sure when thou, I think for extra capicity

User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2453 times:

Do they need narrowbodies or widebodies ?

User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12082 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2412 times:
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Air Paradise currently operates B738, A300 and A310

User currently offlineRyan h From Australia, joined Aug 2001, 1530 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2386 times:

From what I know Air Paradise has 2xA310 PK-KDN and PK-KDW, 1xA300 PK-KDK.

A300

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A310

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I have not seen PK-KDN yet.

737

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The last two years 737-8K2 PH-HZW has been leased during the southern hemisphere summer. After that it is returned to Transavia.



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User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2360 times:
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BTW, has the Australian-Bali market fully recovrered of the 2002 events ??

What about the recent Corby issue ?? Any impact ??


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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12082 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2347 times:
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has the Australian-Bali market fully recovrered of the 2002 events ?? Considering B738s are leased for the summmer season, I would say that yes bali has recovered after the bombings

User currently offlineMonteycarlos From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2107 posts, RR: 29
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2285 times:

I think they would have to lease anything if they were to increase... I could see them moving to A330's if they got a lease, or 763's... Depends on the lease deal they get.


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User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1870 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2284 times:

The B737-800 is back with Transavia (it was just a winter leasing).

Now Air Paradies Intl will get a former China Airlines A300-600R.


User currently offlineQF744 From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 415 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2034 times:

Thanks for the info guys... thought they may have been looking at a replacement for the A330/A310 (A332/A333) would have seemed like a logical "new" replacement.

Flew them SYD-DPS-SYD in April and must say the seats on board are absolute crap! Oh and on top of a 5-hour delay SYD-DPS.

Would be good to see a change.

QF744



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User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3322 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1933 times:

Quoting Flying Belgian (Reply 6):
BTW, has the Australian-Bali market fully recovrered of the 2002 events ??

What about the recent Corby issue ?? Any impact ??

it certainly has. this year tourist numbers from Australia to Bali was back to pre- S11 and bali bombing levels. almost 500,000 pax per year. I will try find the media release issued a few months ago.

As has been stated elsewhere, yields are crap and none of the airlines are making a dollar on the sector.
API is owned by a wealthy Bali business that owns bars, clubs and hotels... as far is he is concerned, happy to bring the tourists in at cost price, and make his money from their stay there.

although some travel agents were calling for a ban to bali, it was had no major negative impact. provide a great holiday in the sun to an aussie tourists, and they'll travel no matter what!


User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6761 posts, RR: 76
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1776 times:

If I remember correctly Air Paradise's leases will begin to run out from January onwards. Apparently they're not happy with the A310 and A300s on their fleet with frequent breakdowns sapping their cash away and I have been informed by one of their crew that they are looking for 763s but has so far found no suitable one.

No, the Corby issue hasn't changed the tourism flow much... in fact it increased the loads for Garuda  Smile

They want the A330 but currently I don't think they have the money for it. The airline's cashflow is quite strapped due to the low operating margins. However I doubt they'll go for A300-600R as they need to range to reopen Japan and Korea again. They were already strecthing the A310 on that one and the A300-600 would only be a short term measure for more capacity without the range. Interestingly, The ex-China Airlines A300-600 they'll be getting will probably an ex Garuda one...

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User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1870 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1753 times:

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The ex-China Airlines A300-600 they'll be getting will probably an ex Garuda one...

Yes! It's c/n 677 - this is the former Garuda PK-GAT.


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