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CO, NW, DL To Start US-India Flights  
User currently offlineSquirrel83 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4502 times:

Continental plans to start the first nonstop flights between the USA and India.

Continental is planning the first-ever non-stop flight between the countries. Delta and Northwest are planning new connecting flights, and at least three India-based carriers are expected to add service.

Beginning on Oct. 31, Continental's non-stop will link Newark, N.J., and New Delhi. The flight will take about 13 hours, saving passengers at least three hours.

• In May, Delta launched service from New York John F. Kennedy to Chennai, via Paris. Delta also has direct flights between JFK to Mumbai (formerly Bombay), connecting in Europe.

• Northwest on Oct. 30 will launch a daily flight between Seattle and Bangalore, via Amsterdam. It already flies from Minneapolis to Mumbai, via Amsterdam.

• Air India, India's national airline, is considering expanding into cities such as San Francisco and Houston or Dallas. It now flies into New York, Newark, Chicago and Los Angeles. Private carriers Jet Airways and Air Sahara also are planning service.

Setting the stage: A U.S.-Indian agreement signed in April easing rules that hampered service. Now, airlines have "maximum flexibility to serve wherever they want, whenever they want and charge whatever prices they want," says Karan Bhatia at the U.S. Department of Transportation. Ailing U.S. carriers are banking on international expansion for profits. The airlines see big possibilities from the increase in high-end business travelers related to the outsourcing of service-sector jobs from the USA.

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2005-06-20-air-india-usat_x.htm

[Edited 2005-06-21 18:43:22]

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User currently offlineCkfred From United States, joined Apr 2001, 2855 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4462 times:

Has AA looked into starting service to India?

User currently offlineAhlfors From Antigua And Barbuda, joined Oct 2000, 1260 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4454 times:

Well, India does seem to be the new big thing. Indian airlines stole the show at Paris with huge orders, and I really do hope the country develops fast enough to provide all that demand.

User currently offlineCommavia From United States, joined Apr 2005, 6222 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4447 times:

Quoting Ckfred (Reply 1):
Has AA looked into starting service to India?

If they were going to (which I doubt they are), it would probably be routed ORD/JFK-BRU-BOM. However, I doubt we'll see this any time soon as AA is desperately short of 767 and 777 capacity right now and has no aircraft to spare. Besides, with the rush of capacity into India in the next 6-12 months (new flying by CO, DL, NW, BA, VS, and BD), average yields will likely drop on flights from India to the West at least a bit.


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User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4346 times:

Quoting Ckfred (Reply 1):
Has AA looked into starting service to India?

AA has applied for slots at both DEL and BOM to commence nonstop service from ORD in the W05 season. Of course, this does not mean that they will actually fly the route but it leaves the door open for them to do so if they choose to.

User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States, joined Oct 2001, 3474 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4323 times:

With all this SkyTeam action between US and India...does anyone think the next SkyTeam carrier will be from India?

Seems like a safe bet that AI or Jet may be asked to join.


Namaste
User currently offlineSlider From United States, joined Feb 2004, 4828 posts, RR: 34
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4283 times:

Well, it's about time the Indian government unshackled airlines, reduced the tax burden and opened up the skies. Good to see this kind of growth and development.

I think an Indian carrier would be a good fit into Skyteam, if only for the obvious geographic and marketing gap that presently exists. I believe Jet Airways already codeshares with NW, but I don't know if that would give them an advantage or not as I don't know how integrated or close they are.

Nevertheless, that does offer good opportunity. The EWR-DEL service is going to be a monstrous challenge from a logistical, payload, flight ops standpoint. A whopper.

User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2575 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4243 times:

Quoting B747-437B (Reply 4):
AA has applied for slots at both DEL and BOM to commence nonstop service from ORD in the W05 season

Does the 777-200ER has the capability to perform the route of ORD-BOM without any payload restrictions


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User currently offlineSchipholjfk From United States, joined Jan 2005, 579 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4189 times:

Quoting Slider (Reply 6):
Nevertheless, that does offer good opportunity. The EWR-DEL service is going to be a monstrous challenge from a logistical, payload, flight ops standpoint. A whopper.

Why? Please explain further. Thanks!


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User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States, joined Aug 2004, 3579 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4177 times:

Anyone else think UA might try to start that ORD-DEL service they had planned before 9/11?


BARACK OBAMA '08 | CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 23062 posts, RR: 66
Reply 10, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4051 times:

Don't be surprised to see American Airlines in India by the end of 2006. It is a priority for them. They may not have many spare aircraft lying around, but, just like Continental, they aren't going to let that stop them. Some clever aircraft scheduling can solve that.


mark miami/los angeles
User currently offlineGigneil From United States, joined Nov 2002, 13499 posts, RR: 81
Reply 11, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4003 times:

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 7):
Does the 777-200ER has the capability to perform the route of ORD-BOM without any payload restrictions

ORD-BOM is a stretch, especially with the mountains.

A United 772ER couldn't do it.

N

User currently offlineCommavia From United States, joined Apr 2005, 6222 posts, RR: 46
Reply 12, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3974 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 10):
Don't be surprised to see American Airlines in India by the end of 2006. It is a priority for them. They may not have many spare aircraft lying around, but, just like Continental, they aren't going to let that stop them. Some clever aircraft scheduling can solve that.

While I'll believe it when I see it, it is interesting and exciting to hear that. MAH, what would the routing be? Would it indeed be ORD/JFK-BRU-BOM, or something else?


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User currently offlineB742 From Spain, joined Mar 2005, 3605 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3943 times:

Hasn't there been talk about a new UA service to India (BOM I think)??

Good to see CO starting DEL, will they look at BOM in the future?

Man, CO really need some new birds!

Rob!


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User currently offlineAerofan From United States, joined Aug 2004, 1475 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3914 times:

Yes - I find it amusing that a couple of years ago, most american carriers thought that flying within the continguous states, to london and one or two cities in south and central america was the be all end all of existence.
My, how times have changed!

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 23062 posts, RR: 66
Reply 15, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3901 times:

Quoting Commavia (Reply 12):

While I'll believe it when I see it, it is interesting and exciting to hear that. MAH, what would the routing be? Would it indeed be ORD/JFK-BRU-BOM, or something else?

I've been told it would be Brussels-Bombay or Brussels-Chennai, getting feed from the existing O'Hare and JFK flights and the proposed Miami flight.


mark miami/los angeles
User currently offlineWorldXplorer From United States, joined Feb 2005, 381 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3859 times:

Gigneil,

What ever happened to the AI thoughts on DEN that you were talking about. I assume the agreement with UA (in which AI has the upperhand) is still effective?

WorldXplorer

(PS- I may have that wrong, maybe it was ConcordeBoy that was talking about that)

User currently offlineCommavia From United States, joined Apr 2005, 6222 posts, RR: 46
Reply 17, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3852 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 15):
I've been told it would be Brussels-Bombay or Brussels-Chennai, getting feed from the existing O'Hare and JFK flights and the proposed Miami flight.

I can't imagine AA would fly to MAA over BOM or DEL. The latter two are so much bigger with so much more U.S. traffic.


My favorite color is local.
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 23062 posts, RR: 66
Reply 18, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3838 times:

Quoting Commavia (Reply 17):
I can't imagine AA would fly to MAA over BOM or DEL. The latter two are so much bigger with so much more U.S. traffic.

Yields, less compietition, Madras' very wealthy population base, and the large market between Brussels and Madras (Sabena actually flew BRU-MAA in the 1990s, during which they didn't fly to any other Indian cities). Delta flies to Madras over Delhi.


mark miami/los angeles
User currently offlineWorldXplorer From United States, joined Feb 2005, 381 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3828 times:

Quoting Commavia (Reply 17):
I can't imagine AA would fly to MAA over BOM or DEL. The latter two are so much bigger with so much more U.S. traffic.

MAA may offer a higher yield due it being a niche market.

WorldXplorer

User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 25
Reply 20, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3792 times:

For those of you keeping score at home:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 18):
Delta flies to Madras over Delhi.

Madras=Chennai/Meenambakkam

Speaking of India...
What is the Government doing in regards to matching ATC capacity to demand?
All we hear about are aircraft orders, but nothing about infrastructure improvements.

I know this has been mentioned somewhere...but what route does Kingfisher intend to utilize the A380 on? (too lazy to look when I know one of you guys can spit it out in a coupla'seconds!)


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User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2575 posts, RR: 13
Reply 21, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3778 times:

I think AA should go the other way and offer something on the basis like,