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User currently offlineNYC Int'l From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1393 times:

Why is it that UA seems to attract so many defenders/supporters? Is it because United is the largest airline in the world and many do not reguard UA as a great world airline? You know, the way people reguarded origional Pan AM or BA, LH, or even fairly new Virgin. Do "Fans" of United feel that their favorite or "home" airline gets no respect? It often causes some to lower themselves to the level of children. Its been that way for a looooong time too. I don't mean to dump on UA. I'm just curious about the United fan phenomena.  

Lance

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User currently offlineDelta737 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 516 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1235 times:

Actually, it was a lot worse a few months ago.

I think I'm the sole Delta supporter, primarily because I work for them!

Doug Taylor
Delta 737 FO
http://www.jetcareers.com


User currently offlineN-156F From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1207 times:

Delta737, you're not alone! Delta is my favorite airline to fly with, thanks to their clean planes, friendly F/As (Something UA doesn't have), and excellent reliability. Not to mention on-time flights that aren't numbered consecutively going to the same location (ARGH!)...

User currently offlineBicoastal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1205 times:

It could be because United is so large and many people have experiences on that airline as opposed to others. I'm a United fan but I'm hardly one to judge its quality because they treat me so well (I'm a 100K with them).

In any large company it's so difficult to manage a diverse group of employees at points scattered around the world. That fact that their aircraft are maintained, clean and staffed is an accomplishment as far as I'm concerned. There are bad apples in any organization. When bad apples become the norm, then there's a problem. United doesn't have a problem as far as I'm concerned.

Happily flying the friendly skies of United,

Bicoastal


User currently offlineDelta737 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 516 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1193 times:

Hello BiCoastal.

Well the largest? When it comes to ASMs, yes, but American has more airplanes, Delta has more passengeres and Southwest has a higher market capitalization.

Doug Taylor
Delta 737 FO
http://www.jetcareers.com


User currently offlineLBSteve From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1180 times:

A simple discussion for example say AA’s intent on expanding in the West Coast and ORD, and you get the usual- “. UAL rules the world (do we live in a monarchy?), or UA is the biggest largest mother of them all, blah blah response so therefore AA will never have a chance! (Usually in all caps and exclamations).” What mindless drivel is that? UAL is a great airline but not exclusively so.

User currently offlineDeltaRNOmd-80 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1180 times:

Delta737, you are NOT the only delta supporter   in fact, i think that delta is the most supported airline on airliners.net. Look how many names there are with the word "Delta" in them and many more such as N-156F (See his post 3 above mine) are supporters. I dont remember my only experience on United very well... They definitly werent rude, I was only 5 years old. I flew from BOS to ANC connecting in ORD. In ORD i was escorted to my connecting flight by a nice person.... I like Delta because of there FA's, Fleet Diversity (They dont have just the usual 727, 737, md-80's or DC-9s on domestic flights, they use the 757, 767, MD-11, L-1011, and in a couple of flights, the 777) and Nice Hubs.

User currently offlineDIA77 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 705 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1178 times:

UA is the only american airline with 747s and 777s, that alone is enough to support them. Plus, UA has the best service out of all the american carriers (at least from my experiences).

User currently offlineLBSteve From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1172 times:

Yes but the downside of having all those huge jets is the potential for over capacity. What will UA do if the market were to dip and can’t fill all the seats? People used see all these huge planes that Pan Am would fly and actually believe the airline invincible.

User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1160 times:

You saw what would happen, LBSteve. Do you not remember the "Asian Flu"?

FLY777UAL


User currently offlineLBSteve From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1146 times:

Yes I saw what happened, they were able to reposition aircraft to better routes, thus being spared the full impact of the situation. However if recession hits home then what will they do?

User currently offlineCwapilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1166 posts, RR: 17
Reply 11, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1141 times:

Even given a lower fare on other carriers, I again chose UA for my trip this coming week. I came to this preference by flying on several airlines and weighing the service versus the cost. You can always find great fares on UA, in many cases, including my trip next week to San Diego, cheaper than the likes of Southwest. The planes are always clean and well maintained, the F/A's attend to everyone promptly and politely. They do tend to put rude people back in their place, which I applaud. The ONLY thing I do not like about UA is that Denver hub. However, DIA is head and sholders above AA's DFW hub. That's the only airport I've ever arrived at 40 minutes early on the ground, and 20 minutes late to the gate! I think AA's new "more room in coach" thing will help it approach UA's level of service. The one airline I can not speak to is Delta, which I am looking for an opportunity to try!


Southside Irish...our two teams are the White Sox and whoever plays the Cubs!
User currently offlineAaron atp From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 533 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1135 times:

...friendly F/As...not to mention the southern accent thing...

good afternoon ladies and gents, thank ya'll for flyin' delta, today ya'll will be be flying with captain kangaroo, and his sidekick who is about to hit the 250 flight hours mark and just graduated from Embree Ri-delle

so please sit back, relax, and let scarlet here show you the emergency proedures for this beautiful disco era L1011...
folks, there may be 101 ways to love you lover, but there are only 4 ways to get off this plane, two up here and two back there over them wingy things.




User currently offlineDeltaRNOmd-80 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1127 times:

When is Delta a southern airline??? I guess because they have a hub in atlanta??? well i guess American is southern also, Hub in Dallas.....  

User currently offlineDIA77 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 705 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1128 times:

The time it takes to get from the gate to the baggage claim at DEN can be a hassle, but there probably isn't a better place in the country to change planes in. DEN has some of the fewest delays in comparison to other US airports. I completely agree with you on DFW. It's kind of the opposite of DEN. At DFW getting to the baggage claim takes no time but getting to your connecting flight takes forever.

User currently offlineSmoo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1124 times:

Am I crazy for thinking that UAL is no better than DL, AA, CO, or anybody else?  

I'm not a 1K or Prem Exec, and none of my family work for United. I have experienced both UA and DL transatlantic and domestic service, these days mostly the latter since I am a poor student  

I fly in the back of the bus all of the time, at least once monthly, always with the lowest fare ticket possible. IMHO, that's the only way to see what the real "service" is like. And quite frankly, I don't notice a damn bit of difference between them---they are both like flying a Greyhound bus.

On all my DL/UA flights I have seen the most indifferent flight attendants around. On Delta I pick up my SkyDeli bag before entering the Jetway like a homeless man at a soup kitchen. If there are hundreds of bags sitting in the cooler, I am loudly berated for asking for another bag even though there are clearly plenty of extras. On board, I rip open the bag to find a muffin, tiny plastic bottle of Orange Juice, Yogurt, and a Banana. A lunch/diiner snack would typically be a dry inedible sandwich, sugar cookie, some piece of fruit, and a tiny bottle of mineral water. The surly F/A's come around exactly ONCE for drink service on a 2.5-3 hour flight. For soft drinks, I sometimes get the can without having to ask for it.

On UA: No bag for the Friendly Skies...oh no!. Instead a bunch of tired old hags annonce to the cabin prior to takeoff "that regulations require that we finish the snack service within 15 minutes" (Which "regulations" might those possibly be   ). They begin throwing around colorfully adorned boxes. Yes throwing, like peanuts to an elephant at a circus. Over seat rows, on laps, you name it. If you have the misfortune to be sitting in the middle seat you will get three boxes thrown on your lap to pass on to your seatmates. Then collection begins before you even open the box. Typical box meal: Dry inedible sandwich, cole slaw, regular size M&M's. Surly F/A's come around exactly ONCE for drink service on a 2.5-3 hour flight.
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UAL employees and 1K's, Prem Execs-----things must be pretty damn good up in F/J class. Don't get me wrong, I'm think both are fine airlines, but both have indisputably sucky service and it is a thrill to get off the cattle car at the end of the flight.

I realize many of you are attached to UAL, but they are certainly not the be all and end all. Neither is AA, whom I try to avoid (not difficult with their outrageous airfares) whenever possible.


User currently offlineCwapilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1166 posts, RR: 17
Reply 16, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1124 times:

Wow! Someone agrees with me for once! 

Well, my trip does include a stop at DIA, so maybe I'll get a better impression. Last time I was there, it was a lousy day...lots of delays.



Southside Irish...our two teams are the White Sox and whoever plays the Cubs!
User currently offlineCwapilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1166 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1120 times:

I have never flown anywhere but coach, and neither I nor any relatives or friends work for UA. And the last flight I was on, the flight attendant was a young, pretty Japanese girl who came by at least 4 or 5 times, on a 45 min flight from ORD to DSM! Did you accidentally end up on TWA without knowing it??  


Southside Irish...our two teams are the White Sox and whoever plays the Cubs!
User currently offlineTravelin man From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3553 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1110 times:

Smoo, you are very refreshing on these boards! People act like there is a huge difference in economy class between airlines. Wrong! I've been on America West, Southwest, United, American, and Delta within the past 6 months. (all economy, except for an AA flight to Boston in Business). Next week: Colorado Springs on AA.

It's all the same. However, food and service are OK in my opinion (I've never had to pick up a lunch bag, even on Delta thank goodness). I've had decent flight attendants.

Think about it: In economy class you can go 3000 miles across the country for approximately $300. What do you expect? Filet Mignon? (I actually had a steak in economy on Delta for an LAX-MCO flight last month). I love flying, and no partially freeze dried meal will change that!

P.S. Thank you United for letting me listen to the tower/cockpit communication. It is the most interesting thing on the radio, and I wish all airlines let me do that (HEAR ME AMERICAN????)  


User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4353 posts, RR: 35
Reply 19, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1096 times:

United has great fares out of Holland... probably to fight into the KL/NW market overhere.
Last May, I made a AMS-IAD-DEN-SFO-LAX-LHR-AMS roundtrip with 3 stopovers for the published fare of $300. Other airlines are more expensive, allow less stopovers or have a less suiting route-network so you can't combine the nicest cities in the US on one trip. And United still had decent meals on sectors like DEN-SFO of less than two hours. Their cabin crew is friendly and down-to earth.
That's why it's one of my favorites.



nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offlineUal757 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 806 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1088 times:

i wouldn't consider myself a FAN, but i do admire thier livery, and IAD is a major UA hub....when it comes to Cus service, SWA is my winner. CO is not far behind.

User currently offlineAa737 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 849 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1077 times:

I have notived there are a lot of UA fans, but the same goes for all of the US airlines.

I don't think any airline, UA, AA, DL etc.... are the greatest thing on the world. On all of them you will meet some rude FAs and other airline employees at the airport. On all of them I have had great flights, and some not so great flights.

Out of the US majors, I mostly fly AA simply becasue my parents have a lot of FF miles so we can always upgrade and fly trans-atlantic in biz. Around the US I fly both AA and UA alot and they both give ok food in coach.


User currently offlineUnited777ORD From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 264 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1065 times:

Ever since I was 4 years old, I have always loved United Airlines. I remember when my older brother and sister flew back and forth to MSP and ORF on United to attend college. I was only 7 years old at that time and I would always love to meet them at the airport(ORD) because the gate agents were(and still are) some of the friendliest people and they would give me all of the wings, timetables, and attention I desired. United Airlines will always be my favorite airline because they have a excellent maintenance record and friendly customer service.

-United777ORD




User currently offlineSmoo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1056 times:

>>>Think about it: In economy class you can go 3000 miles across the country for approximately $300.
What do you expect? Filet Mignon? (I actually had a steak in economy on Delta for an LAX-MCO
flight last month). I love flying, and no partially freeze dried meal will change that! <<<<

Sorry if I gave the impression that I was complaining. For what I often pay, I'm lucky to get a snack of any kind. I do realize I'm about as important to an airline as the air sick bag in the seat pocket. I'm actually starting to like eating out of a bag/box. Its kinda like opening your present on Christmas day--you never really know what you're going to get. (M&M's are a nice touch though).


User currently offlineAaron atp From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 533 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1059 times:

>>>When is Delta a southern airline??? I guess because they have a hub in atlanta???
Well, it started in Mississipi as a crop dusting operation. Sure it has sucked up C&S, Western, Northeast, and Pan-am (don't forget ASA and the others). Atlanta isn't just a hub for delta, it is the corporate headquarters. Maybe Atlanta has a lot of transplanted yankees, but it's still southern.


someone else posted this:
>>>you will meet some rude FAs and other airline employees
not rude, but experienced. I couldn't put up with a lot of the people I've sat next to in my travels if I worked in the back of a cattle freighter. If I had to be a babysitter for every uneducated ignorant american who is flying to a family reunion in South Carolina I would be a bit "on edge" also.

In my line of work it isn't that bad for the f/a because their are only 8 seats, usually no more than half are filled... and everyone is usally pre-occupied...





aaron


25 Lufthansa747 : I must admit that I'm a big fan of United. They have a very nice fleet with the best livery and a very good route network (with the Star Alliance). Th
26 Hawaiian717 : I assume you mean BOTH 747s and 777s. If not, let me refresh your memory: 747: Northwest, Tower, United 777: Delta, American, Continental, United DIA7
27 Timobear : hello delta737, As a fellow pilot you should know that UAL is the largest due to our annual $$ over other airlines. I don't care if DL has more passen
28 Jkelley480 : Here's a United story for you: A couple of weeks ago I missed my flight to LAX from SEA due to the fact that it took me an hour to find parking in Sea
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