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D.C. Mad That Southwest Has A Maryland Plane!  
User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4164 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 7891 times:

Can you believe this??? There's an article in USAToday that has this politician ranting and raving about Southwest's 'Maryland One.' He wants a D.C. plane and feels that Southwest 'owes' them that because BWI has 'Washington' in its name.

The nerve of this political beggar! 'Entitlement' must be his middle name. The politician, District of Columbia Councilman Jack Evans, introduced a RESOLUTION (!) to get Southwest to do this (ed. comment: Slow work day, eh Ed?). Evans uses flowery Liberal language like 'It would only be fair' and 'owes' in his begging:

"It would only be fair to us in the District of Columbia that they add to that a District of Columbia plane," Evans said. He noted BWI shares the Washington name and contends Southwest owes much of its growth there to D.C. residents."

What a laughable joke this is, and Evans is. 'Jack' is a good name for him.

Chris in NH

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User currently offlineDragon-wings From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3996 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 7876 times:

That's being a little selfish!

Why should they honor one part of the state when they should honor the whole state.



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User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 7852 times:

Maybe Southwest ought to start flying to DCA? not the best solution, lol.


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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17824 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 7820 times:

"Maybe Southwest ought to start flying to DCA? not the best solution, lol."

Then the Wright Amendment goat rodeo would pail in comparison to the Perimeter rule fight... I'd buy tickets to see that fight!



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineGreyhound From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1026 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7795 times:

What a moron. Baltimore Washington International... yes Washington is in the name. But whether it has the name in there or not, it is located on Maryland soil. So WN should start painting their planes after what's actually in the airport name? Well, they go to Barry M. Goldwater Terminal 4 at PHX. So how about a 737 with Goldwater's image on the tail and do away with Arizona One? Sounds just as stupid as "Mommy!!!! WN made a Maryland One plane for MD, but now they won't make one for me! Not Fair!!!"


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User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7786 times:

Will the DC plane carry the slogan ‘Taxation Without Representation’ a la their license plates?

Link - http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2005-06-22-swa-district_x.htm


User currently offlineAirScoot From United States of America, joined May 2005, 688 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7772 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Thread starter):
The nerve of this political beggar! 'Entitlement' must be his middle name. The politician, District of Columbia Councilman Jack Evans, introduced a RESOLUTION (!) to get Southwest to do this (ed. comment: Slow work day, eh Ed?).

You should try living here. That's pretty calm compared to some of the stuff they come up with  Smile


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7732 times:

Maybe Southwest ought to start flying to DCA? not the best solution, lol.

DCA is actually in Virginia, not DC.  Wink

Harry



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User currently offlineWorldXplorer From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 381 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7708 times:

We have how many problems facing the nation right now and he chooses to fight for "DC One"? Good grief, no wonder nothing gets done in Washington. I would be curious if his constituency supports his work on this rather than some of the more import issues facing DC and our nation. But since when have politicians cared what we want?

WorldXplorer


User currently offlineNW727251ADV From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7703 times:

So I guess Virginia will complain next because the technical name of IAD is "Washington/Dulles" International Airport. So under DC's logic VA needs a SW plane...nevermind the fact that SW doesn't fly to DCA or IAD.

[Edited 2005-06-22 23:00:18]

User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7673 times:

Why do they owe them a favor!!! Washington DC will not even let them fly from their own hub. They should tell them we will get a DC one when you repeal the Wright Amendment. How can they say that, you tell an airline that they can only fly to bordering states from their hub so AA will be happy and fell good about themselves (and DFW) and then you want them to name a plane after you. You don't jerk someone around and then demand they honor you!! A load of bull$&*t!!!!

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User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4164 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7647 times:

I was thinking about the hypocricy between the Wright Ammendment and this story, until I came to the (probable) conclusion that the D.C. council has nothing to do with the Wright Ammendment. In fact, in spite of it being a federal law I think the W.A. is more of a Texas thing than a D.C. one.

Chris in NH


User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 7551 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 11):
In fact, in spite of it being a federal law I think the W.A. is more of a Texas thing than a D.C. one.

Yes but DC is where it has to be repealed, even though it is a Texas thing.

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User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 7534 times:

When he isn't trying to extort Virginia and Maryland residents into paying a commuter tax to DC, this is indeed the kind of foolishness Jack Evans is famous for.

User currently offlineDkf747 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 37 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 7506 times:

Why not ask USAirways for a DC One? Aren't they locally based?

User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 7478 times:

Quoting Dkf747 (Reply 14):
Why not ask USAirways for a DC One? Aren't they locally based?

If the merger with HP happens, they won't be for much longer, since the HQ would be in Tempe AZ...


User currently offlineNRTfan From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 7323 times:

Quoting AirScoot (Reply 6):
You should try living here. That's pretty calm compared to some of the stuff they come up with

It's true. Just the other day another Councilmember, Carol Schwartz, introduced a measure to ban the sale of alcohol in bars and nightclubs. That's right, no alcohol in bars.

It was a symbolic gesture to draw attention to another bill calling for the restaurant/bar smoking ban already in place in New York City and a lot of other places.

Getting back to aviation, I think Maryland One is stunning, and it does help after all that the state of Maryland invested millions of dollars in a new terminal for Southwest, and is at the same time making a lot of other structural improvements for their benefit at their #3 hub.

And after all, what would go on a DC One? Marion Barry smoking crack? A dilapidated public school with no air conditioning and mercury in the hallways? How about someone getting a cavity search by the Capitol Police?


User currently onlineCOSPN From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1653 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7267 times:

Why not ask USAirways for a DC One? Aren't they locally based?

I Belive US air is based at Regan national AIrport in Arlington, VA..not DC,

and DC, is located in was was Maryland..Because VA took their part of the "Diamond" that was suposed to be DC back...


User currently offlineNW727251ADV From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days ago) and read 7139 times:

Quoting COSPN (Reply 17):
Why not ask USAirways for a DC One? Aren't they locally based?

I Belive US air is based at Regan national AIrport in Arlington, VA..not DC,

and DC, is located in was was Maryland..Because VA took their part of the "Diamond" that was suposed to be DC back...

WHAT???


User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2951 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days ago) and read 7110 times:

So one flashy plane and all of a sudden Washington wants to get involved in the airline industry? Screw the plane - if they want to help the industry, work on lowering the price of oil or protecting those penisons or for goodness sakes do something about TSA and airport security. Why not work on updating the air traffic control system?

Quoting NRTfan (Reply 16):
And after all, what would go on a DC One? Marion Barry smoking crack? A dilapidated public school with no air conditioning and mercury in the hallways? How about someone getting a cavity search by the Capitol Police?

Too funny!
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User currently offlineFI642 From Monaco, joined Mar 2005, 1079 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days ago) and read 7058 times:

Actually, the agreement was (after the Revolutionary War) that the South would pay the war debt if the Nations Capital was relocated in the South. Maryland and Virginia carved out a square of land to be the new District of Columbia. In the 1800's it was determined by the Federal Government that they would never be big enough to use all of it- so Virginia was given back their land.

So, essentially DC is IN Maryland....... and there is ocasional talk of folding it back into Maryland.

The point to all of this? Maryland One represents the folks in DC too!



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User currently offlineDkf747 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 37 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days ago) and read 7053 times:

Quoting COSPN (Reply 17):
Why not ask USAirways for a DC One? Aren't they locally based?

I Belive US air is based at Regan national AIrport in Arlington, VA..not DC,

and DC, is located in was was Maryland..Because VA took their part of the "Diamond" that was suposed to be DC back...

Actually, I knew that. Are you saying that being based in Arlington is not local?


User currently onlineCOSPN From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1653 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 6 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6995 times:

Actually, the agreement was (after the Revolutionary War) that the South would pay the war debt if the Nations Capital was relocated in the South. Maryland and Virginia carved out a square of land to be the new District of Columbia. In the 1800's it was determined by the Federal Government that they would never be big enough to use all of it- so Virginia was given back their land.

So, essentially DC is IN Maryland....... and there is ocasional talk of folding it back into Maryland.

The point to all of this? Maryland One represents the folks in DC too!

Thanks FI642....

Well Said..are there any web sites about giving DC back to Maryland, Would they want it Back ???... Yes Arlington is "local" but in the Comonwealth of Virginia...


User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 6 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6937 times:

Did you hear the one about the USAirways "Pittsburgh One" livery in response to WN's "Maryland One?"

It shows US Airways management flipping the middle finger at Pittsburgh.


User currently offlineEspion007 From Denmark, joined Dec 2003, 1691 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 6 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6900 times:

Ok I live in maryland and i go to DC alot. And of the knowledge of the mentality of polititions and airlines here,I can tell you one thing.


DC has all the Air Force one planes. Screw 'em.



DC will get their own livery when the metro is fixed.

[Edited 2005-06-23 06:05:21]


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25 Post contains links UsAirways16bwi : If you look at a map of Maryland, DC is not there. So DC is not actually IN Maryland, unless DC was bordered by Maryland on all sides. http://baby.in
26 PanAm747 : Actually, I believe that Presidential transport planes (called Air Force One only when the President is on board, regardless of what type of plane it
27 NW727251ADV : Thank You PANAM747 because I thought I was crazy for a second. I knew for a FACT that all of the Air Force One's are based at Andrews. Air Force One
28 Mexicana757 : People of DC tax dollars at work. Mr Evan needs to get out and work.
29 OzarkD9S : All the trouble in the world, all the problems in the country...THIS is his big bitch?
30 Clipperhawaii : There are reasons for everything. 2004 Howard Dean DC Co-Chair; 1992 & 1996 Bill Clinton's DC Co-Chair That's Jack Evans for you. You have to understa
31 Bluewave 707 : Southwest paints their state flag liveries to honor the states that they not only serve, but dominate. CA, NV, AZ, NM, MD, and most importantly TX. It
32 NYCFlyer : While I think this Councilman is a moron, this does pose an interesting question: to what extent do you credit the city whose name is on the airport,
33 Post contains images Bluewave 707 : The Anaheim Angels changed their name to the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, yeah. Seems like the owners failed geography. The NY Jets better change t
34 Contrails : This is typical DC stupidity. They don't even have an airport, but they want their own plane. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Stupidity kno
35 Tsnamm : When hell freezes over I think....DC would bet a net drag on the State's budget,soaking up far more in social services than they would return to the
36 Willbdsp : BRAVO Tornado82, BRAVO!!
37 Post contains images TheGreatChecko : ROTFLMAO!!!! No they are just pissed at WN and the fact that they can actually make money there.... GreatChecko
38 DCAYOW : What Evan's fails to realize is that Virginia probably contributes as much or more than DC residents to WN's flights out of BWI. And you add up the No
39 Post contains images Lucianflyboy : Talk about a cry baby! He has WAY too much time on his hands (and being paid by tax payers). Any votes for Spirit of Dallas???
40 DCAflyboy : Actually, it's not that far. If you drove from the DC Beltway via I-95 and I-495 to BWI it's approx. 32 miles. There are areas in Baltimore County th
41 BWI757 : They must of read the Sunpaper article I brought up and the statement by Joe Paca about the livery, and decided to take it further. Glad to see that t
42 Rj777 : If they do this, they'd have to do one plane for each state. Does WN have enough money to paint 51 planes in a special livery?
43 Potomac : (shame on me for posting to a topic that is carried on far too long....) for one, perhaps the header should more accurately read "DC Councilman protes
44 MasseyBrown : I'm in Chevy Chase. While distances vary (IAD is 40 miles away, BWI is 30, and DCA is 7) driving time to all is the same - usually about 45 minutes.
45 DCAflyboy : I say, let the state of MD have their precious "Maryland One" and WN for that matter. DC and Northern VA have Dulles, one of the fastest growing airpo
46 TPASXM787 : Ah yes, DC sets such a fine example for the rest of the country!! Anyways, if it's like this, I want a Tampa One too!
47 FI642 : DCAflyboy- You obviously know NOTHING about the BWI area. Anne Arundel County (the county BWI is in) has one of the highest housing prices period. Wit
48 Post contains images Flyinround731 : This is funny, why not have a Georgia One? BHM is WN's gateway to ATL, via highway... A peach on the fuselage on a WN jet wouldn't be too bad... -Joe
49 DCAflyboy : Actually, I lived in Annapolis (Anne Arundel County) for two years and loved it. The status and growth of AA County has much less to do with proximity
50 DCAflyboy : Actually, the mayor of DC has a goal of adding 100,000 new residents to the city over the next 10 years and by the looks of all the housing and condo
51 Post contains images BWI757 : Yep, sure is! With NSA down the road about to explode with jobs, Maryland houses and real estate skyrocketing, white trash is really expanding out of
52 BoeingPride800 : Thats dumb. Shouldn't US or UA have a D.C. plane? I mean after all, it is there hub.
53 Greyhound : ROFLMAO. Good one. I was only born in Baltimore (raised in AZ), but have been back to visit several times. An absolutely wonderful city. Sure some pa
54 Potomac : in fairness, i think the entire area is still in a growth mode, though the dulles corridor may have had a jump start with DC and the DC-BWI areas quic
55 NW727251ADV : So many incorrect statements from people who THINK they know their facts. I am from Maryland so let's see if I can correct some of these mistakes. In
56 Post contains images MD80Nut : I think Southwest should have a DC themed plane. They can paint a toilet full of money being flushed down the toilet and call it "Your Tax Dollars At
57 DCAflyboy : WHAT are you talking about!! Baltimore city is located in Baltimore County. Yikes. Where are you from and where are you getting this info.
58 NW727251ADV : Again, this coming from the little boy who lived in Maryland for two years lol. Dont tell me where the hell Bmore is located. I've lived in Maryland
59 DCAflyboy : Again, typical response from someone who knows nothing about DC. Yes, DC is home to the political epicenter of this country, but it is much more than
60 Potomac : the DC jokes, while hilarious, are somewhat outdated. might be time for an update about what's going on in the city. are all of the issues resolved? n
61 MattRB : Southwest considered a different name for the new Baltimore One theme plane that would reflect their appreciation to the DC area. However, after consu
62 Potomac : the county of baltimore runs from the PA border south to, and partially around, the city of baltimore (which is designated as a 'city county'). it bor
63 DCAflyboy : OMG. Of course Baltimore is its own city. Baltimore County practically surrounds the city.
64 NW727251ADV : I fail to realize the point you're trying to make. You make absolutely no sense to say the least. Are you trying to prove me right or yourself wrong?
65 Bwione : DCAflyboy, Learn some geography first before posting. BWI and Dulles are both 26 miles from the Capital building, so I think we can safely say that if
66 Ulfinator : Is this the same guy who got the law passed that requires airlines to inform their passengers of the country of manufacture for the aircraft they are
67 NW727251ADV : Thanks for adding some back-up to my knowledge (even though you made me look a little silly a time or two lol) and while we're at it, technically Mon
68 DCAflyboy : If that's true, it's not becuase of Baltimore city, that's for damn sure.
69 DCAflyboy : Hmmm..and up goes another highrise office building outside Dulles. And another...and another.
70 Mainland : In regards to DC, Funny, I can say the same thing about Baltimore.
71 Post contains links and images BWI757 : Yikes! How about the State of Maryland? http://www.mdmunicipal.org/cities/munimap.html It might be a good idea to check facts before posting. BWI757
72 BWI757 : Please to check occupancy rates and let us know. Thanks. BWI757
73 Post contains images Greyhound : On my respected users list just for that one. Ever been crabbing? As far as you and Potomac go NW727.. I wouldn't get your feathers ruffled too much.
74 Potomac : greyhound - i agree, some people throw that 'stuff' out there just to get a rise, though i think the vast majority of the time they do it bcs they are
75 Greyhound : I agree. I just see similarities in the polarized arguments of DCAflyboy, Workbench and a couple others. It's just the "My way or the highway" attitu
76 Jetdeltamsy : Remarks like this worry me about our society in general. WASHINGTON, DC IS NOT A STATE for God's sakes. Southwest does not fly to DC. Ridicilous poli
77 Nsfguy : The new livery has been announced, but rejected! Marion Berry toking on his crack pipe and the caption " The other way to get high in Dee Cee""
78 FI642 : Having just returned from the breathtakingly beautiful inner harbor of Baltimore, I can now see what DCAflyboy is talking about. He is obviously from
79 B744F : That's actually the Republican form of Welfare for companies. And not sure how somebody threw out the liberal insult towards this politician. He just
80 Luvfa : Even better is seeing all those cars with Virginia plates migrating north to BWI for those cheap flights!
81 FI642 : Lufva: You've got it EXACTLY right. Folks come from all over to save $$$$. The parking lots are always full. Don't try to get on a flight to LAS, LAX,
82 Post contains images Revelation : I think DC can't handle the truth! East of Virginia where the bay meets a river Down in Mary's land The wind pulls your sleeve like a long lost lover
83 FI642 : There, you've said it in a nutshell, or is that crabshell?
84 Fewsolarge : Zip it on the "liberal" comments. The word is a synonym for "free," and last time I checked, that's still a core component of what anyone would like
85 Post contains links FI642 : Just ran "liberal" through www.visualthesaurus.com. It also means: loose, freehanded, welfarist, and socialized too. Which seem to be more appropriate
86 FI642 : Hey DCAboy: NBC did a special on Baltimore tonight, it seems Frohmers has rated it one of the top 10 destinations in the World. I guess it's that whit
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