FlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 15 Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4869 times:
American's first & oldest MD-80 (N203AA) is 22 yrs old, while the youngest (N984TW?) is 6 yrs old. N984TW came from the TWA take-over, and it may be the last MD-80 ever assembled, however I'm not 100% of this info.
I'll let someone else here that's more knowledgeable on Alaska's fleet to answer the rest of the question. Regards.
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FlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 15 Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4739 times:
Well, since no one here will answer his Alaska Airways question, I'll do it anyway. Currently AS's oldest MD-80 is N931AS...20 yrs old. The youngest MD-80 is N982AS...8 yrs old. Regards.
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Quickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2464 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4706 times:
The TWA md83s were the last built. I thought they were parked though.
ToTheStars From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 262 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4689 times:
Quoting FlagshipAZ (Reply 1): and it may be the last MD-80 ever assembled
It was the last MD-83 ever built, When it flew for TWA it had "The Spirit of Long Beach" painted on the side.
Commavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 10192 posts, RR: 62 Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4669 times:
Quoting Newsisco (Thread starter): Does anyone know how old are the aa's/alaska airways MD-80s and MD-80 supers are
AA's oldest MD80 was delivered May 12, 1983, and thus just had its 22nd birthday. AA's newest MD80, N984TW, was delivered new from LGB to TWA on December 27, 1999 and was, indeed, the last MD80 ever built. AA's MD80s are, on average, 15.9 years old.
AS's oldest MD80, N931AS, was delivered February 20, 1985, and is 20 years old, and their newest, N982AS, was delivered May 27, 1997, and is thus just over eighty years old.
Quoting Quickmover (Reply 3): The TWA md83s were the last built. I thought they were parked though.
The TWA MD83s were the last built, and thus the newest, and some -- about 14 -- are still parked in storage in Roswell, NM, IIRC, but the vast majority of the TWA MD80s are still flying with AA.
September11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 23 Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4584 times:
Quoting FlagshipAZ (Reply 1): American's first & oldest MD-80 (N203AA) is 22 yrs old, while the youngest (N984TW?) is 6 yrs old.
This is a classic photo (most popular) of 22 years old MD-80 (N203AA)
September11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 23 Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4565 times:
I am not too familiar with AS M80s but I found photos of N931AS & N982AS.
Quoting Commavia (Reply 6): AS's oldest MD80, N931AS, was delivered February 20, 1985, and is 20 years old
EA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 12559 posts, RR: 64 Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4525 times:
Quoting FlagshipAZ (Reply 2): Well, since no one here will answer his Alaska Airways question, I'll do it anyway
How can you, since there's no such company as Alaska Airways?
Alaska AirLINES, however, is a very real company.
Quoting Commavia (Reply 6): AS's oldest MD80, N931AS, was delivered February 20, 1985, and is 20 years old, and their newest, N982AS, was delivered May 27, 1997, and is thus just over eighty years old.
Eighty years, eh? Time to review your math skills....
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ToTheStars From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 262 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4457 times:
Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 9): Quoting FlagshipAZ (Reply 2):
Well, since no one here will answer his Alaska Airways question, I'll do it anyway
How can you, since there's no such company as Alaska Airways?
Alaska AirLINES, however, is a very real company.
Quoting Commavia (Reply 6):
AS's oldest MD80, N931AS, was delivered February 20, 1985, and is 20 years old, and their newest, N982AS, was delivered May 27, 1997, and is thus just over eighty years old.
Eighty years, eh? Time to review your math skills....
Commavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 10192 posts, RR: 62 Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4443 times:
Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 9): Eighty years, eh? Time to review your math skills
EA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 12559 posts, RR: 64 Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4419 times:
OzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4681 posts, RR: 23 Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4416 times:
NW will snap up those 80 year old 80's!
Being a Douglas design they'll probably be still flying in 80 years.
EA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 12559 posts, RR: 64 Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4409 times:
Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 13): Being a Douglas design they'll probably be still flying in 80 years.
Well you know what they say - when the last A320 is flown to Marana or Mojave for scrapping, the pilots will be ferried home on DC-9s!
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Commavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 10192 posts, RR: 62 Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4396 times:
Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 14): Well you know what they say - when the last A320 is flown to Marana or Mojave for scrapping, the pilots will be ferried home on DC-9s!
Absolutely true. Douglas made great, tough, reliable planes. It is pretty telling that even now, more than 20 years after they first entered service, MD80s are still roughly cost-competitive with much, much newer 737s and A320s. That's pretty impressive. I fondly remember many flights on old DC10s, too, and I always remember hearing pilots say that it was the toughest bird they ever flew -- you could beat the crap out of it and it would still take on fuel and fly right on, no problems. It was just a great plane -- I am so sad to see the old 10s just about gone in the U.S.
FlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 15 Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4391 times:
LOL! I wouldn't feel bad, Commavia. The way Douglas built their aircraft, the MD-80s could very well be flying until their 80th b-day. Hell, look at the DC-3s that are still around, and NW's DC-9s are already half-way to that milestone. Regards.
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September11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 23 Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4300 times:
Quoting September11 (Reply 7): Youngest MD80 (N984TW) no photo of that plane in TWA scheme
just found this picture ... the LAST ever produced M80
Jfrworld From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 362 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4275 times:
This may be a bit off topic, but appropriate to the MD80 family. How come some MD80's have a "pointed" tail cone and some have a "flat" tail ending? I think they may call them beaver tails, but I'm not sure.
Was this due to airline preference when ordering or was it part of a series update?
September11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 23 Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4234 times:
Quoting Jfrworld (Reply 18): This may be a bit off topic, but appropriate to the MD80 family. How come some MD80's have a "pointed" tail cone and some have a "flat" tail ending? I think they may call them beaver tails, but I'm not sure.
Was this due to airline preference when ordering or was it part of a series update?
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4231 times:
Carpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2771 posts, RR: 4 Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4102 times:
Considering AS just ordered 35 738s, the MD-80s are headed out the door.
AS has been slowly withdrawing a number of MD-80s, particularly the older ones.
Obviously, no timetable for AA MD-80 replacement.
MD-80s are still great planes when maintained properly. The only seat that suck are the ones next to the engines, but I suppose it depends on if one likes the loud engine whines.
BigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2755 posts, RR: 7 Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4047 times:
Quoting Commavia (Reply 6): The TWA MD83s were the last built, and thus the newest, and some -- about 14 -- are still parked in storage in Roswell, NM, IIRC, but the vast majority of the TWA MD80s are still flying with AA.
Not to get too optimistic about expansion here, but this appears to give AA some narrowbodies to bring back into mainline service to replace some of Eagle's better-producing flights, right? Or are these parked aircraft something AA wants to retire to make the fleet more standardized?
You know I am new to A-net and thought I knew a lot about airlines but sheesh....this group makes me feel like a novice!
25 Commavia: Theoretically, yes. These TWA MD80s can be reactivated by AA and brought back into service in the future. Although, I'm not sure if it will be to rep
26 Ckfred: The only reason that AA's 767-200s (non-ER) would come back is if a major carrier were to go out of business, and AA needed to get every parked plane
27 FlagshipAZ: If all the stored MD-80s were to be bought back into service, then AA would have a fleet of 362 Mad Dogs! I think this is by far the largest fleet of
28 Commavia: I doubt they'll ever even get the chance. Most are already being prepared to be scraped and scavanged for parts. They're not coming back. AA's MD80s
29 ASMD80: Most likely it was converted to an MD83. BTW, how are MD-82 a/c converted to MD-83?
30 Jeb94: MD 82s are converted to 83s basically by uprating the engines from 217s to 219s, changing the landing gear out for a set capable of more weight, and c
31 N1120A: Yes WN has a lot of 737s. More than 400 And that carrier is... American Airlines (yes, I know you are talking about G4).
32 EIPremier: I believe AS has 3 MD-80s that were delivered in 1985, making them 20 years old (N931AS, N934AS, N935AS0. The remaining 23 MD-80s were delivered betwe
33 Gilesdavies: I have only had the opportunity to fly on the MD-80's once and that was when I was on holiday in the US and both me and my brother flew AA LAX-LAS ret
34 RoseFlyer: Just checking, but was AS receiving MD-80s and 734s at the same time. The capacity on the two planes are almost the exact same, so why would AS make s
35 September11: they lost one MD80 few years ago ... N963AS ... rudder control lost during flight off California shore ... here is photo of their MD80 that was peris
36 N1120A: AS had planned on having a completely common MD-80 fleet (with the 732Cs excepted) because of their typical fleet mission at the time and the MD-80s
37 Atrude777: Southwest has about 432 737's. AA has what someone said 362 I think. NWA is probably behind AA with most aircrafts with the DC-9 I assume. Alex
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