HotelEchoFox From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 69 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4060 times:
Question: Are these near misses significantly less likely at airports where all runways are parallel (CDG, ATL, LAX, for instance)? ...or do the taxiways crossing these runways pose the same amount of threat? Is the level of incidence similar?
Tappan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1538 posts, RR: 44 Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4003 times:
HotelEchoFox Good point.....
I think both sets of pilots were probably VERY upset at the tower.
By the way, Boston tower has some of the very best ATC and personnel. Very nice and very professional.
ISOLATED incident for sure.
AceMcCool99 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 9 hours ago) and read 3521 times:
At first view, it would appear that there was a lack of coordination between the two controllers or a lack of adherence to procedures. Given that these are media reports, I will wait till an official report comes out. Reporters tend to over-sensationalize these things. Given the fact that the two controllers are back on check-out would indicate a good degree of credibility in these articles though.
FlyAUA From Austria, joined May 2005, 4604 posts, RR: 56 Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 6 hours ago) and read 3349 times:
Quoting HotelEchoFox (Reply 1): Question: Are these near misses significantly less likely at airports where all runways are parallel (CDG, ATL, LAX, for instance)? ...or do the taxiways crossing these runways pose the same amount of threat? Is the level of incidence similar?
Yes, it does play a factor when runways are crossing on the ground. But, it could just as well happen with parallel runways with arriving/departing aircraft (vertical separation must be established between DEPs [above] and ARRs [below] before they cross).
CORULEZ05 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 6 hours ago) and read 3336 times:
The scary thing about this story is that this isn't a training issue or lack or training. This is just a person not paying attention to what they were doing and almost causing a major accident. Needless to say, I am very happy that there were no injuries as a result of this negligent act.
ChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3920 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 5 hours ago) and read 3221 times:
I'm sorry, but this is the Boston media 'making news' when nothing more substantive is there. They do it all the time. First the Boston Globe reported the story, and then the morning TV news programs jumped all over it with 'LIVE REPORTS!' from Logan...after concocting their 'news' based on what the Boston Globe came out with that day. Shameless hussies, that's what the TV media in Boston is. They would send a reporter to 'REPORT LIVE FROM THE SCENE!' of a cat up a tree if it meant they could sell more car commercials.
Tornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months ago) and read 2996 times:
Quoting Tappan (Reply 13):
You think this is a "stupid media story"? less than 200feet seperation between jets?
You are wrong...
I agree... if a crew has to take evasive action (keeping the nose down in this case) to avoid a collission because of an ATC error... that's a story. How would you feel to be sitting on that 733 and see gear going by overhead at a level where you could probably see the tread in the tires??
ChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3920 posts, RR: 2 Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2933 times:
Yes, you're right...this is a pretty significant story given the circumstances. My rant was more at the media and how they package everything as 'BREAKING NEWS!' when it's hardly that. This, I agree, is a pretty big story. I paid attention to see if they (the media) described the aircraft properly. They seemed to have, as near as I can tell.
HaveBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2081 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2551 times:
Tappan it does work for me anyhow. Select June 9 19:39 as he says, and zoom it to the 4 mile view. At first you will just see an arriving plane from the bottom of the screen. Within a minute or so you will see the 2 departing green planes simultaneously.