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How Do Virgin Atlantic Crews Operate LHR-HKG-SYD?  
User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 9062 times:

Mir and I were wondering how Virgin staffs the A346 LHR-HKG-SYD flights. Do crews fly each segment, then layover, all the way back until LHR? Any insight is appreciated.

Also, do crews generally prefer the Hong Kong/Sydney flight (or other Asian flights) or do employees with seniority generally prefer JFK or other East Coast runs?

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User currently offlineVirginFSM From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8890 times:

LHR-HKG

2 Nights HKG

HKG-SYD

1 Night SYD

SYD-HKG

2 Nights HKG

HKG-LHR

9 Day trip altogether.

Cheers


User currently offlineAntonovman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 722 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8826 times:

sounds like a nice little trip that

User currently offline777klm From China, joined Apr 2005, 532 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8813 times:

And the QF, BA crew?!


Next flight: AMS-PEK
User currently offlineSpeedbirdcrew From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8813 times:

Anyone know how the HKG-SYD leg is doing load wise? I was thinkin of going down to SYD in September and thought I might try my chances getting on as standby, and if the loads are as they were last time I saw a thread re this I'll have a good chance of getting on! Gotta love the A346 too!!!

User currently offlineAlanUK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8657 times:

Quoting 777klm (Reply 3):
And the QF, BA crew?!

BA is exactly the same, but via BKK and SIN instead of HKG. 4 or 5 days off afterwards. Same also to MEL.

Safe flying

[Edited 2005-06-26 13:32:49]

User currently offlineFlighttime From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 8259 times:

Don't know about VS crews but at BA Aussie trips are not really that popular anymore. Apart from the fact that they are quite long, getting one night in Oz is horrid. On the Oz-Asia sector you feel like you've been dug up!

User currently offlineMonkeyboi From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 457 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 8064 times:

Thats true. The BA ozzie trips are only popular because of the money, not the trip itself. A LHR/SIN/SYD 9 day trip generally racks up about GBP1100.00 in 'allowences'. And the block of days off afterwards a nice.

Just out of curiousity is it a good paying trip at VS? How many days off does it generate? Do the HKG based crews or LON based crews operate the route?


User currently offlineVirginFSM From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 8004 times:

Monkeyboi

Hello, we get less than half that! About 450. Days off 4 but can be 3!!!! Both london and HKG crew on all 4 sectors (and soon to be SYD crew too)

Cheers


User currently offlineMiami1 From Australia, joined Feb 2001, 706 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7780 times:

Do BA crew really get GBP1100.00 on a 9 day Australia partern !! thats huge!!

QF Aussie crew only operate 1 LHR pattern routing SYD - SIN 41HR slip
SIN - LHR 36HR slip LHR - SIN 48hr slip. If you starve yourself you usually bring back about AUD600.00 in cash allowances.


User currently offlineCrosschecked From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 257 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7757 times:

Can we try and avoid discussing the money earned by airline crew here, please? All that happens is that battles erupt between airline crew or Joe Public begins questioning why they earn "so much".


Cabin crew, doors to manual and cross check.
User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7679 times:

What an awful trip--and even then, only three or four days off between them! YIKES! Seems like VS could save a lot of money and hassle by just having the the LHR-HKG trip split by crews from both bases, and then same for HKG-SYD (split by HKG and SYD crews).

How many duty hours is the trip?

F L Y 7 7 7 U A L


User currently offlineTrident2e From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7443 times:

Quoting Crosschecked (Reply 10):
Can we try and avoid discussing the money earned by airline crew here, please? All that happens is that battles erupt between airline crew or Joe Public begins questioning why they earn "so much".

What do you have to hide? I suppose you can choose not to take part in such a discussion but the rest of us can choose to do otherwise.


User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6816 times:

Quoting Crosschecked (Reply 10):
All that happens is that battles erupt between airline crew or Joe Public begins questioning why they earn "so much".

If Joe Public starts questioning, I think most a.neters will be quick to shut them down. These people earn every single cent/quid etc they earn.

fluffy


User currently offlineIndustrybuff From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2003, 347 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6201 times:

is there any more info on VS opening a SYD crew base at all ?

I heard that rumour but wasnt sure how to go about it ! Any details would be greatly received !

Cheers


User currently offlineEmirates773ER From Pakistan, joined Jun 2005, 1450 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5806 times:

its a bit off topic but if I take VS JFK-LHR-HKG-SYD and Emirates on JFK-DXB-SYD which one would be a better option leaving out the fact that VS has an extra stop?


The Truth is Out There ---- Face It!!!!!
User currently offlineB707Stu From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 918 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5651 times:

Are these the longest trips for crews around the world? I know LH, when they operated FRA-JFK-LIM-SCL had 12 and 13 day trips. I'm curious.

User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3335 posts, RR: 20
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5608 times:

Quoting Flighttime (Reply 6):
Don't know about VS crews but at BA Aussie trips are not really that popular anymore. Apart from the fact that they are quite long, getting one night in Oz is horrid. On the Oz-Asia sector you feel like you've been dug up!

Bear in mind that 1 night in Oz actually means arriving 5am , staying overnight, then flying out the following day around 3-4pm...

so it's +30 hrs or so....


User currently offlineFLY2LIM From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1185 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5454 times:

Quoting B707Stu (Reply 16):
Are these the longest trips for crews around the world? I know LH, when they operated FRA-JFK-LIM-SCL had 12 and 13 day trips. I'm curious.

I don't remember LH ever operating JFK - LIM. I remember FRA to either BOG or CCS, then to Quito (UIO?), then to LIM, then to LPB, and then return. That is the flight I remember on the 747. Anyone can correct me.
FLY2LIM



Faucett. La primera linea aerea del Peru.
User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5453 times:

I know LH, when they operated FRA-JFK-LIM-SCL had 12 and 13 day trips. I'm curious.

When did they operate this? And with what aircraft?


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 20 hours ago) and read 4602 times:

Quoting B707Stu (Reply 16):
Are these the longest trips for crews around the world?

Air India used to have the dreaded double-shuttle trips that ran BOM-DEL-LHR-JFK-LHR-ORD-LHR-DEL-BOM. Totally just under 20 days away from base.


User currently offlineTS-IOR From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3489 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 20 hours ago) and read 4593 times:

RJpieces, this should be in the 60s or 70s and with B707s !!!

User currently offlineAmirs From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 1333 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (9 years 5 months 15 hours ago) and read 4406 times:

LY has 8 day trips to ... TLV - YYZ - LAX - YYZ - TLV

User currently offline7LBAC111 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 35
Reply 23, posted (9 years 5 months 14 hours ago) and read 4334 times:

Quoting Emirates773ER (Reply 15):
which one would be a better option leaving out the fact that VS has an extra stop?

Define 'better' to you, as it's open to interpretation.

7LBAC111



Debate is what you put on de hook when you want to catch de fish.
User currently offlineVS11 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 5 months 14 hours ago) and read 4296 times:

Quoting Industrybuff (Reply 14):
is there any more info on VS opening a SYD crew base at all ?

I heard that rumour but wasnt sure how to go about it ! Any details would be greatly received !

Cheers

Go to
http://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/au...ngforus/currentvacancies/index.jsp

Hope that helps.

VS11


25 CrossChecked : I have nothing to hide, but I see no reason why the earnings of cabin crew are anyone's business other that the crew themselves. You sound like fun.
26 B707Stu : During the 60's and early 70's. I used to watch the 707 arrive and leave for LIM and SCL as a kid. It was known as the "Nazi" express transporting X-
27 EK773 : At EK we have an 11day trip: DXB-SIN 24hr layover SIN-MEL 54hr layover MEL-AKL-MEL 13hr layover MEL-AKL-MEL 13hr layover MEL-AKL-MEL 48hr layover MEL-
28 6thfreedom : DXB-SIN 2:45a DXB 1 2:05p SIN 1 7:20 24hr layover SIN-MEL 3:20p SIN 1 12:20a+1 MEL I 7:00 54hr layover MEL-AKL-MEL 7:15a MEL I 12:45p AKL I 3:30 5:55p
29 EK773 : Im not an expert on the legalities side of scheduling, but... the maximum consecutive days we can work is 7 and the 8th day must be off. Therefore, ou
30 Flighttime : Monkeyboi I am truly shocked that you have posted what we are supposed to earn on a Sin-Oz trip. Apart from it being a highly private matter it is dow
31 B747-437B : The London cabin crew base was discontinued in 1986. The patterns I posted are from 2-3 years ago.
32 Flying Belgian : Back in march I flew the LHR-SIN-SYD trip with QF and the First-officer told me it was a 2 nights lay-over in LON and a 2 nights lay-over in SIN. FB.
33 KLMcedric : At KLM we still have a 14day trip but it's only for one member of the crew, the rest goes home earlier. It's AMS-KUL 48hrs KUL-CGK-KUL 144hrs KUL-CGK-
34 KLMcedric : At KLM we still have a 14day trip but it's only for one member of the crew, the rest goes home earlier. It's AMS-KUL 48hrs KUL-CGK-KUL 144hrs KUL-CGK-
35 Industrybuff : thanks VS11 the link turned up no current vacancies... I have a friend working in VS cabin crew scheduling in LHR so I might email her ... do you know
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