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What's That Pilot Doin'?  
User currently offlineBrunoSBGR From Brazil, joined Jun 2005, 36 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 13992 times:

Hey everyone,

I was just navigating through the top views from last 24hs and came across this picture of a KLM MD-11 taking off.



Marinus (the photographer) asks in his remarks "what is the pilot doing?".

Judging by his position, I would guess that the 1st officer is flying the plane, and
the pilot is reaching for the gear handle to raise it (the plane just took off, and you can see that the gear bay is still closed).

Since the gear handle is kinda "far" from his seat, the pilot has to stretch a little bit to reach it, what explains his....hum.......position.

Just wanted to point it out!

Happy landings,

Bruno Brasileiro
SBGR

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User currently offlineChqdispatch From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 50 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 13918 times:

Probably looking for air traffic

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 13825 times:

Adjusting Instrument settings.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineJaxs170 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 13796 times:

That would be unusual from my experience for the guy in the left seat to reach across and get the gear, though granted I do not know the exact layout of the MD-11 flight deck (but on a Boeing it would be unusual). Radios or, as was said earlier, adjusting the instruments/auto-pilot settings is probably the answer (or possibly taking off right into the sun and ducking behind the glare shield).


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User currently offlineBrunoSBGR From Brazil, joined Jun 2005, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 13746 times:

Quoting Jaxs170 (Reply 3):
That would be unusual from my experience for the guy in the left seat to reach across and get the gear, though granted I do not know the exact layout of the MD-11 flight deck (but on a Boeing it would be unusual). Radios or, as was said earlier, adjusting the instruments/auto-pilot settings is probably the answer (or possibly taking off right into the sun and ducking behind the glare shield).

The MD-11 cockpit layout is similar to Boeing/Airbus cockpits. The gear handle is located on the right side, next to the system's screen(s) - forgot the name of that now....

When the co-pilot is flying the plane, the captain is responsible for adjusting instruments, retracting gear, flaps and make all the settings during all phases of the flight.

I agree that he could be adjusting instruments, but judging by the fact that the three-holer has just taken off and gear is not retracted yet, I guess he's reaching to retract it.

Happy landings,

Bruno Brasileiro
SBGR


User currently offlineRicci767 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 151 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 13635 times:

I don't know what he's doing but what I do know is that he is one lucky so and so for being able to captain a MD11!

User currently offlineEfohdee From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 214 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 13618 times:

Dropped his pencil, scratch his foot, trying to find his keys....

User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 13603 times:

Taking off at SXM in wrong direction looking for some girls on the beach !  bigthumbsup 

User currently offlineCALpilot From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 998 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 13386 times:

Jaxs170,

Quoting Jaxs170 (Reply 3):

[quote=Jaxs170,reply=3]That would be unusual from my experience for the guy in the left seat to reach across and get the gear[/quote

Well Jax thats funny because every airliner I've ever flown from the left seat, I've had to reach across to grab the handle. In all of your experience which airplanes did you not reach for the gear?


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 13279 times:

Letting loose a big wet fart.

Mark


User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 13103 times:

Quoting Jaxs170 (Reply 3):
That would be unusual from my experience for the guy in the left seat to reach across and get the gear, though granted I do not know the exact layout of the MD-11 flight deck (but on a Boeing it would be unusual).

I don't know what Boeings you've flown, but all the one's I've flown from the left seat, it's a very long reach to get the gear handle.

On the 744, I have to release my shoulder harness to get the gear up!


User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8442 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 13048 times:
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It's a great pic whatever....interesting to see the window layout along the fuselage, what is behind the blank section, galley? bathroom?


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User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3808 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 13019 times:

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 10):
but all the one's I've flown from the left seat, it's a very long reach to get the gear handle.

All the airliners I've been on it's a VERY long reach: All the way up from Y class.



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User currently offlineFlyAUA From Austria, joined May 2005, 4604 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 13011 times:

Looking out for other traffic is my guess...


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User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4769 posts, RR: 26
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 12961 times:
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He is definitely reaching for the gear handle. I have seen this in action on a 737...it is quite a reach for the captain. Because the aircraft apparently just lifted off and the gear is not yet retracted, we are looking at the very moment he should be raising the gear. Gear retraction is immediate and one of the first things taken care of after liftoff. So in regards to adjusting instruments, I seriously doubt it. My guess is 100% for Captain retracting the gear.


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User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 12943 times:

Pilot to FO- "Damn A.net spotters. Turn this baby around and I'll get my .38 Special down here from under my seat."

fluffy


User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 36
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 12909 times:

Well, here's a flight deck view of the MD11. Gear lever is in the middle...

View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Harri Koskinen




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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 12857 times:

Quoting BrunoSBGR (Thread starter):
What's That Pilot Doin'?

Getting airsick.


User currently offlineSkyWestFan From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 179 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 12533 times:

I think Silver1s right. Hes obviously not the FP this leg so that would make more than enough sense. Ive flown an MD-11 Level 4 sim and its quite a reach for anything in the cockpit.

Great observation S1.

SW
MF



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User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 11865 times:

If you look very closely, the forward gear doors look just slightly open, i.e. not completely flush with the fuselage. I say that proves that the gear is just about to start the up cycle.

[Edited 2005-06-29 21:24:05]

User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4190 posts, RR: 37
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 11862 times:

Definitely raising the gear. I make the same kind of motion when I'm reaching for the gear and it isn't near as long of a reach in the CRJ.


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User currently offlineKBOS From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 429 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 11578 times:

a little late in putting his seat and tray table in an upright position for takeoff?


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User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 9818 times:

Well based on the cockpit photo it looks like he's reaching forward for the gear. No need for an investigation..

User currently offlineGilligan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 9699 times:

Checking the AF pilot seniority list.

User currently offline65captin From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 9642 times:

BrunoSBGR...I dont see the similarity of MD-11 cockpits to Boeing and Airbus flightdecks.

If u look at the picture a few posts up the gear in dead-center of the cockpit.
Its within easy reach that does not require that kind of reach like the one of the KLM pic.

Personally I dont think he's reaching for the gear handle at all. Likely something feel on the floor.

65Captin



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25 AirWillie6475 : He is definately not in the act of raising the gear. I just finished viewing a takeoff clip of a md11. The pilot didn't have to move his arm that much
26 FSPilot747 : He's gotta reach forward to get the gear handle, doesn't he? More than one airline pilot who actually fly these things have said the same. What's the
27 Wdleiser : Beautifully said. Welcome to my RR
28 Silver1SWA : Ugh, I seriously hate these debates on this site. The answer can be clear as day yet there's always a few that have to complicate things. A overhead p
29 65captin : U know what no sense in debating over it. I was just stating my 2 cents. Somebody shoot me!!!
30 NightFlier : Maybe he dropped something on the floor, like his pen. If the first Officer was flying chances are the Capt was handling all the radio communications.
31 65captin : Thankyou!!!!!!!!!!! (Regaurding NightFlier post)
32 Silver1SWA : Picking up a pen would be very insignificant compared to raising the landing gear given the situation this aircraft appears to be in at the time of th
33 Silver1SWA : This site has proven that even if the pilot himself came on here and told everyone what he was doing in the pic, it still wouldn't be good enough for
34 Vinceb1117 : He's saying "Why does this glareshield smell so wierd!?"
35 Post contains links Soaringadi : http://www.a340.net/ Go to this website, and download some of the cockpit videos.... yo'll see that when and if the f/o. is flying, the captain has to
36 Jumbojet : I second the big wet fart, though it might have been the 'burning brakes' fart and he was checking for skid marks
37 Post contains images Emrecan : His back was aching and he was trying to relax
38 Post contains links and images Leskova : For those of us who'd like to be able to see the picture in a larger resolution... View Large View MediumPhoto © Marinus Bergsma Regards, Frank
39 Post contains images IL76 : Again proof how a cheezy comment gets you lots of hits. He forgot to mention that the pilot didn't use bleach last time he washed his shirt. This guy
40 Post contains images HaveBlue : CALpilot, I was just curious as to why you have VC10 twice on your Respected Users list? Oh, and nice post by the way
41 Post contains images VS74741R : The forward gear doors are always slightly open while the gear is down, therefore it doesn't prove that the gears are just starting to be retracted.
42 Silver1SWA : Then the Captain should be busy monitoring instruments and calling out speeds rather than say...adjusting his seat, or reaching for a pen or whatever
43 Post contains images VS74741R : Good point
44 Wayfarer : I could not see his face - his face was blocked .... so hard to tell ...
45 Post contains images Boeing7E7 : Leaning forward to let one go.
46 BoeingATL : loved the humorous responses. . . mine? Who's gear is he retracting?
47 Post contains images ACDC8 : Maybe the C of G was too far aft ... (Sorry, just had to add my humour there as well)
48 Pilotaydin : maybe he wanted to know what it felt like to be a short captain during take off
49 CALPilot : Haveblue, I think I must have just pushed the enter button twice? Sorry
50 HAWK21M : Wont be surprised if he Visits Anet too. regds MEL
51 Post contains images HighFlyer9790 : I think the captain happened to see something so he wanted to get a better look. Or, he was just uncomfortable and wanted adjust the way he was sittin
52 Sean377 : I'm not 100% certain he's reaching for the gear lever (although it would seem like a good time to be doing that). If you were reaching over to the rig
53 B744F : My question is.... who cares??
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