Sampa737 From Brazil, joined May 2005, 637 posts, RR: 1 Posted (10 years 11 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4555 times:
MEM is celebrating her 10th anniversary of AMS nonstop service this week. To formally celebrate, a former KLM boss was flown in. I thought it funny he was flown in via DTW because the MEM flight was full. MEM gets knocked in here quite a bit but even post 9/11, NWAs commitment to the city has not waivered but in fact adding new destinations. In addition, new international routes will be implemented in the next few years, according to the Commercial Appeal article posted Tuesday.
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 56
Reply 2, posted (10 years 11 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4512 times:
The AMS-MEM flight has been a surprising success - is it 10 years already?
In the Netherlands and Europe, KL has done a rather good job of marketing the flight as an easy gateway to the Southeastern US......NW does have many connection possibilities available via Memphis and passengers do like the idea of a smaller uncrowded airport. (Many Europe originating passengers find airports like Ohare and Atlanta to be overwhelming for connections.)
Its quite amazing that AMS-MEM has survived and does well, while routes like AMS-MIA and AMS-PHL have been dropped by KL/NW. I understand that KL/NW has the MEM-Europe market all of itself, while there is more competiton at PHL (from US) and MIA (from lots of carriers), its still rather interesting.
Can Memphis support other long-haul international flights as suggested by the recent newspaper article....this was discussed recently here at a.net. I dont think so, but then again, I was wrong about Memphis, so time will tell.
M404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2258 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (10 years 11 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4267 times:
I had to eat my hat on this one. I watched the water cannon arrival in amazement at KL faith in their sales team finding this niche. Then again when schedules built up. Air freight loads have always been their. I've heard that FedEx ships some onboard. I learned from the Dutch passengers I met that AMS has a Blues district that, at least then, was in big favor with music lovers. Tours entered in MEM and exited at ATL.
Many have mentioned the desire for a Japan flight and NW had a continuation from LAX with a change of gauge but It must not have been that successful to warrant more. Whether Paris and AF would have the interest and political arrangements to offer a nonstop will be watched. Either way, this city should be congratulated on it's farsightedness (hopefullness) that got this airport built so much bigger than needs at the time. Of course the concourses are smaller than current fashion but a hub operation really was not in large use at the time it was built. That problem is being addressed in future plans being funded now.
10 years is amazing in the flights singular history and steadfast popularity yet odd that it has not been followed by more. I salute the KLM team that saw the opportunity and had the corporate faith to make it happen. Truly a niche operation that works.
Less sarcasm and more thought equal better understanding
Indy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4625 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (10 years 11 months 3 days ago) and read 4255 times:
Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 2): Many Europe originating passengers find airports like Ohare and Atlanta to be overwhelming for connections.
There is nothing fun about connecting in those airports especially in inbound international. I think ORD is probably the worse. Not just in the number of people going through at once but it can be a LONG hike from your international arrival to your domestic departure.
I think this very problem is where smaller airports will end up picking up more international service in the future as the big airports become extremely passenger unfriendly.
Nwafflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1050 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months 3 days ago) and read 4243 times:
Right now, I really question KLM's commitment to North American flights (other than those via Air France). I have tried to book ff flyer flights on KLM, and am not able, even though I can see the available flights on NWA, Continental, Delta, and when I phone NWA, Continental or Delta, they agree that flights are available, however, I must book through KLM
Does anyone else here have this kind of experience? I am a platinum elite with Skyteam, and also platinum with KLM
AMSSFO From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 954 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (10 years 11 months 3 days ago) and read 4206 times:
I recently tried to use Worldperks miles for flights to AMS. Impossible, unless you want to spend twice the amount of regular miles or want to travel in February.
Will I ever be able to actually use my miles???