HKGKaiTak From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 1050 posts, RR: 0 Posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2212 times:
From the New Brunswick Department of Tourism and Parks:
Quote: The French airline Corsair will expand its Moncton-Paris direct flight in 2005 by adding two more flights and servicing it with a Boeing B747 jet.
The French airline Corsair will offer 12 weekly flights between the Paris-Orly Airport and the Greater Moncton International Airport commencing June 30. The flight will be mainly serviced by the 580-passenger Boeing B747, commonly referred to as a "jumbo jet." As part of its inaugural flight last year, Corsair offered 10 flights that were serviced by a 350-passenger jet.
I never even knew so many people lived in New Brunswick to need almost double daily to Paris! And on a 747 to boot. Wow.
Alespesl From Czech Republic, joined Jan 2004, 586 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2174 times:
Approximately 750 00 people live in New Brunswick. I guess these flights would also target surrounding provinces such as Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island and Eastern Quebec and maybe Maine in the US as well.
HT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6526 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2125 times:
DE (Condor) flies a B753 HAJ - Moncton - YYZ - HAJ 1/pw during summer.
This is a leisure charter (although also available through DE´s website) for a touroperator in Germany with a resort on the Mira Michi River ("vicinity" of Moncton). That Tour operator offers "resort only" as well as bus tours around Canada´s East ...
If Corsair´s flights are not a stop-over only, it´s rather likely that they are aimed at tourists, too.
Unfortunately, I don´t know, if that german Tour Operator has any links to the TUI-group ...
Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
Bmacleod From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 2988 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 2017 times:
Just what load factor is Corsair looking for on these flights? With the total population of New Brunswick less than the population of Montreal, the nearest city for regular 747 service, they'll be lucky to break 50%.
The engine is the heart of an airplane, but the pilot is its soul.
SQuared From Canada, joined May 2005, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1934 times:
Quoting KEno (Reply 1): Pardon my ignorance but what exactly is the market in New Brunswick?
New Brunswick has a significant Francophone population, so much so that it is the only official bilingual province in Canada. Nova Scotia also has a decent sized Francophone community as well. But I'm thinking a B747 is overkill for YQM.
YOW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 1903 times:
The 747 continues onto YUL. The article doesn't clearly state that it's 12 flights 1x/week over the summer and not 12 flights a week. It's still frustrating that tiny Moncton has nonstop charters to Paris, yet Ottawa does not. The Ottawa region's fracophone population is bigger than the entire francophone population in New Brunswick.
Matt From Canada, joined May 1999, 712 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 1879 times:
I live in Moncton and am quite familiar with the flights in and out of YQM. So here's the scoop on the charters.
1. Corsair will effectively start their ORY-YQM-YUL-ORY flights today (June 30). The plane is scheduled to land in a few hours and I will be there with my camera! In the summer of 2004, there were 10 flights (every Thursday from late June to early September, serviced by A330-200s). This year, the flights are again operated on Thursdays but for 12 weeks. The only difference is that the flight will be operated by a 747-300.
2. New Brunswick is indeed Canada's only officially bilingual province and there is a large proportion of francophones living in the greater Moncton area. The flight to ORY is the only direct service from Atlantic Canada to France, so it attracts people from NS, PEI and NB (anglophones and francophones alike). Also, many French tourists start their bus tours in Moncton and make their way to Québec City and Montreal afterwards. Many stay and tour NB and the Maritimes. Exactly half the passengers (290) will be boarding/deplaning in YQM.
3. Moncton Airport has a brand new terminal (actually, it's about 3 years old). It is large enough to handle a 747. Others charters include the Condor 757-300 on the HAJ-YQM-YYZ-HAJ (every 2 weeks on Tuesdays from May to October) reserved for inbound German tourists, and winter charters down south: Punta Cana (Air Canada A319 and Air Transat A310), Puerto Plata (Skyservice A319) and Varadero (Skyservice A319). Of course, Air Canada Jazz (CRJ, DH1 and BEH), WestJet (73G) and CanJet (735) operate several daily flights to YHZ, YYZ, YHM and YUL.
HiFi From Brazil, joined Apr 2005, 192 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 1839 times:
Quoting HKGKaiTak (Thread starter): The French airline Corsair will offer 12 weekly flights between the Paris-Orly Airport and the Greater Moncton International Airport commencing June 30
Quoting Matt (Reply 11): 1. Corsair will effectively start their ORY-YQM-YUL-ORY flights today (June 30). The plane is scheduled to land in a few hours and I will be there with my camera! In the summer of 2004, there were 10 flights (every Thursday from late June to early September, serviced by A330-200s). This year, the flights are again operated on Thursdays but for 12 weeks. The only difference is that the flight will be operated by a 747-300.
1 weekly flight during 12 weeks of the year makes a lot more sense!
Matt From Canada, joined May 1999, 712 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 1817 times:
To add to my previsous post...
For those who wonder how big YQM is, go to www.gma.ca. It's not a big airport at all, but it is quite modern. There is also a photo gallery.
And yes, it is surprising that a small city like Moncton gets charters to France and Germany, while Ottawa doesn't. But Ottawa's proximity to Montreal is without a doubt a factor in many airlines' decision not to operate there. I still remember KLM's YOW-YHZ-AMS flight. Very practical for we Atlantic Canadians.
But to be quite honnest with you all, I never thought I'd see 747s serving Moncton!!!