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Biman DC10 - Belly Landing  
User currently offlineEgghead From United States of America, joined May 2005, 48 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 14340 times:

A DC-10, inbound from DXB, made a belly landing at CGP (which airport would this be?) after its right landing gear collapsed. One of the wings caught fire. No report on injuries.

I hope everyone is ok.

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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 14231 times:

Quoting Egghead (Thread starter):
CGP (which airport would this be?)

It's Chittagong in Bangladesh.

Patrick


User currently offlineJetHost From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 14006 times:

Does anyone have a news link?


Thanks, Philip :)
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 13943 times:

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/7598_1417634,000500020001.htm

Doesn't look like a "belly landing" per se, i.e. complete gear-up, more like either a partial gear-up (2 of 3) or a normal landing and then a main gear collapsing. The article says the wing was on fire first and that caused the gear to fail, but at this early stage that can be taken with a grain of salt...


User currently offlineCloud4000 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 641 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 13878 times:

Hopefully no one is hurt, but looks like a write-off, and another season of scheduling chaos for Biman, who already have a less than stellar reputation for service.


Boston, USA
User currently offlinePsa53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3090 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 13580 times:

As a small operator,how badly does this hurt them?
I went to their web site and doesn't seem to be
any problem in service.

[Edited 2005-07-01 20:04:29]


Tuesday's Off! Do not disturb.
User currently offlineJetHost From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 13490 times:

Quoting Psa53 (Reply 5):
As a small operator,how badly does this hurt them.
I went to their web site and doesn't seem to be
any problem in service.

Dont airlines have insurance on their planes? Sorry if im wrong here!!!



Thanks, Philip :)
User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 13473 times:

Quoting Psa53 (Reply 5):
As a small operator,how badly does this hurt them.

According to BI´s website they have 6 DC10-30´s. I agree that the one in CGP probably will be a write-off and this surely will have an effect on BI´s schedule ...
-HT



Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
User currently offlineAMSSFO From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 952 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 13406 times:

According to this article they have two DC10 and they will lease another one to replace the damaged plane:
http://nation.ittefaq.com/artman/publish/article_19686.shtml
The Minister said Bangladesh Biman had two DC-10 aircraft of which one was damaged in yesterday's accident. To keep international flights unaffected, a DC-10 aircraft would be procured in a day or two under lease, said the Minister.

Does anyone know the reg?


User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 13296 times:

What's the reg of the WO plane ?

User currently offlineSpike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1170 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 13230 times:

I would miss the BG DC-10's if they were sent off. But Biman is going to look pretty old with PK and AI 777s flying into DAC behind Emirates A380s. Bangladesh is a huge market for NRBs (labourers working overseas) and companies charter entire sections of aircraft. Give BG an A380 and they would fill it. Eliminate Poverty. Airbus or Boeing - give Biman a plane to replace this essential link. Think of how many new aircraft are sitting in deserts around the word.

Spike.


User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 13207 times:

They still have to conclude the deal for T7s and A330s.

User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 13180 times:

Quoting HT (Reply 7):
According to BG´s website they have 6 DC10-30´s.

see http://www.bimanair.com/aboutus/fleet_info.asp while on the other hand:

Quoting AMSSFO (Reply 8):
According to this article they have two DC10 and they will lease another one to replace the damaged plane:
http://nation.ittefaq.com/artman/pub...shtml

Well, I´ve heard, that BG is willing to phase out DC10´s from their fleet, but that they use such drastic action to do so ...  

EDIT: Changed "BI" into "BG"

[Edited 2005-07-01 21:28:11]


Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 13107 times:

Quoting Spike (Reply 13):
Its BG not BI you

Point taken. How could I mix up. Sorry.
I´ll edit my post #12 accordingly.
-HT



Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
User currently offlineGorbidog From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 151 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 12650 times:




Sticks and stones may break my bones, but please don't throw stuff 'cause our bamboo floor is delicate!
User currently offlineDreamflight From Belgium, joined Jan 2005, 153 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 12290 times:

Which regi ?

Rgds,



I feel the need for airspeed
User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12593 posts, RR: 34
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 12283 times:

Definitely looks like a write off to me.

Where would they get DC10s at short notice? JAL? Northwest?


User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4163 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 11772 times:

Quoting JetHost (Reply 2):
It's Chittagong in Bangladesh.

Can we just say about this story, 'Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang?'

Chris in NH


User currently offlineAirbusCanada From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 331 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 11686 times:

Biman have been trying to procure a single DC-10 for years now.
The tender was invited three times without any results.
And don't believe any word the minister says. He said he would lease
777 within six months three years ago. The only option for Biman I see right
Now is to wet lease any 300 seater (DC-10/777/330/340/Md-11) for the short term (maximum six months) then either accelerate the delivery soon to be ordered 332/777 or lease one or two 310’s to fill the void.


User currently offlineHawker From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 11665 times:

My 2 cents worth. I suspect it skidded off the runway, which caused the gear to collapse which in turn caused the fire, presumably from the engine.

If the gear had collapsed on landing, this my indicate a long dormant design fault and the need for a grounding order on all DC-10.


User currently offlineB707Stu From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 918 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 11264 times:

It was just a matter of time. THey work there DC-10's to death. It's rarely on time into JFK and foreign workers I know who go through Dakka avoid them like the plague. I'm sad to say I'm not surprised and hope they find resources to replace all the DC-10's with someone more current.

User currently offlineAirbusCanada From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 331 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 10766 times:

Here is how MR. Mohibur RAhman, one of the Engineer of Biman descirbed the cause of the accident of DC-10, “For unknown reason, the right engine caught on fire before lainding, which melted some tires of main landing gear causing the collapse of four main landing gears at touchdown.”

The aircraft skidded approximately 35 meters off the runway shortly after landing. Landing gears of the aircraft were broken and instantly sank a meter-deep into the mud apart from total destruction of the plane’s right wing and the turbine.Fortunately, it was raining and the rain stopped the fire form spreading into any fuselage section.


Also one of the wings is blocking the only runway of CGP airport, so the airport will be closed for at least one more day. An official of the Civil Aviation Authority of Bangladesh (CAAB) in Chittagong said that they had suspended flight operation to and from the CGP till 10:00 p.m. tomorrow (Saturday).

It is learnt from a number of unofficial sources that the captain of the Dhaka-bound flight BG048 sought landing clearance from the control tower of Shah Amanat International Airport at about 8:40 a.m. Control tower officials denied clearance on the grounds of poor visibility. But, the captain of the aircraft ignored control tower’s instruction and decided to land.Officials of the CGP confirmed that 10 of the on board passengers suffered minor wounds while others survived unhurt.


The reg of this DC-10 is S2-ADN, one of the two Ex-Canadian DC-10's leased from a French leasing company named Pegasus. This particular aircraft entered service with Biman in November 2000 and the lease terms would have been expired in around November 2005. Chances are it would have been scrapped soon afterwards. S2-ADN was insured for $15 million from a Singaporean company.

[Edited 2005-07-02 00:35:47]

[Edited 2005-07-02 00:38:34]

User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 10641 times:

Quoting AirbusCanada (Reply 22):
“For unknown reason, the right engine caught on fire before lainding, which melted some tires of main landing gear causing the collapse of four main landing gears (right) at touchdown.”

A DC-10 has 4 main landing gears? An engine fire melts tires?

Quoting AirbusCanada (Reply 22):
Fortunately, it was raining and the rain stopped the fire form spreading into any fuselage section.

Must have been a heck of rain... Another report said the airport fire department put it out...

You just gotta love the initial reports of an accident/incident....  Wink


User currently offlineAirbusCanada From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 331 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 10538 times:

"Must have been a heck of rain... Another report said the airport fire department put it out..."

The reports did say Fire dept did put out the fire with foam, but the rain stopped the fire from spreading saving a lot of life.


User currently offlineKerberos From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 10113 times:

Wow... I flew on this exact aircraft back in 1984 when she was with CP. This makes the third aircraft I have been on that later had an "incident". I was on F-GITA (AF 744) two weeks before she took a swim in the lagoon at FAAA and I was also on C-GITS (TS A330) not long before she ran dry and glided 200nm into the Azores. I'm flying HMY to HNL in a week, here's hoping they are not less one 757 after!


This is your captain speaking. I’ve turned off the no-smokin’ sign. Hell, if the plane is smokin' why can't you?
25 Post contains links OPNLguy : A more plausible sequence of events in this account: http://www.aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20050701-0
26 Post contains links SWISSER : This is why so many pax evacuated in minutes! http://www.bimanair.com/intheair/intheair_safety_dc10.asp And damn, I guess our Catering ops at Brussels
27 Post contains links and images Jacobin777 : it just might happen... "US Ready To Help Bangladesh Buy B777 Aircraft: Ambassador DHAKA, June 24 Asia Pulse - The US government is ready to provide
28 FlyinTLow : Just a quick question out of curiosity: Can BG fly non-stop to JFK with their aircraft? And are we talking A310 or DC10 here? It's hard for me to beli
29 Post contains images Wingspan : Uh, yeah. Sure. Stick to bean counting, amigo. Regards, Wingspan
30 Soundtrack : Garuda just retired its DC10s - they should be available as they are parked in Jakarta for quick response. Good question - Does BG fly nonstop to JFK?
31 MAH4546 : No. The flights are routed DAC-DXB-BRU-JFK-BRU-DAC. There is no Dubai stop on the eastbound flight, and no local traffic is carried between NYC and D
32 Hawker : Quoting post 30. "If the gear had collapsed on landing, this may indicate a long dormant design fault and the need for a grounding order on all DC-10.
33 B707Stu : No, the DC-10 usually flies Dakka - Brussels - JFK. I think there maybe even another stop between Dakka and Brussels.
34 Il76td : Serves that airline right...maybe they'll drop their absolutely ridiculous royalties they charge at DAC.
35 Post contains images HAWK21M : The report says one of the Wings caught fire.How. Any official word. regds MEL
36 Spacepope : It probably has something to do with that incinerated #3 engine.
37 Backfire : This just in: A Biman Bangladesh DC-10 skidded off the runway while landing at Chittagong Airport today. The aircraft suffered $10 million worth of im
38 RJ777 : I thought you couldn't "belly land a jumbo jet?" From "A Thousand Heroes"
39 Post contains links OPNLguy : Some new developments reported... Flightcrew suspended... Alleged unstable approach... Lessor and hull insurer evaluating if it's a write-off or not..
40 NA : ... if its a write-off or not... Come on, this oldie is 26 years old, and damage clearly exceeds the damage of the Atlas Air written off at Düsseldor
41 AirbusCanada : It's not official yet, but insurers have inspected the aircraft and declared it as a write off. Currently the Engineers are taking off the #1 engine a
42 Bennett123 : I think that the insurance is worth more than the aircraft even before it crashed.
43 Bennett123 : I have just checked Speednews, they have 46990 for lease and 46584,46997,47927 and 48292 for sale.
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