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User currently offlinePH-BFA From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 562 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6489 times:

Does anyone have a list of the biggest airport in europe in terms of passenger traffic? Many thanks!

PH-BFA

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User currently offlineSK601 From Belgium, joined Jun 2005, 976 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6461 times:

My wild guess:

1. LHR
2. CDG
3. FRA
4. AMS


User currently offlineMunich From Germany, joined Mar 2002, 155 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6461 times:




Regards! Robert alias munich
User currently offlineEDDM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6430 times:

Setting his priorities right, that man!  Smile

User currently offlineMunich From Germany, joined Mar 2002, 155 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6406 times:

 Smile yeah EDDM! Nomen est Omen


Regards! Robert alias munich
User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 6236 times:

Munich,
these are the figures for 2002 ?



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User currently offlineMunich From Germany, joined Mar 2002, 155 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 6202 times:

@HT

no, 2004. Why do you think 2002?

Have a look on this site than you can get the exact stats.



Regards! Robert alias munich
User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6190 times:

Quoting Munich (Reply 6):
Why do you think 2002?

Because the filename said "EUR_Paxe2002" ...

btw, great link that you included.
-HT



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User currently offlineFlyAUA From Austria, joined May 2005, 4604 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 6046 times:

Quoting Munich (Reply 2):

Three more positions and Vienna would have shown up on that list, damn you  hissyfit   tongue 

What's interesting to see is not just the passenger numbers, but also the aircraft movements. Note how certain airports have less passengers but more movements due to the average size of aircraft there. And what I also found interesting is the rates at which airports are growing or shrinking expressed as a percentage. This is a good indication of who is catching up and who is not able to grow much more (in a ceteris paribus sitation, which as usual is not the case). But it's at least an indication  Smile



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User currently offlinePH-BFA From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 562 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 5988 times:

thanks guys!

PH-BFA


User currently offlineIncitatus From Brazil, joined Feb 2005, 4002 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 5969 times:

CDG and FRA are tied and CDG has several gates yet to open. Meanwhile Lufthansa is building a second hub in MUC. Should we expect CDG to become #2?

User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2489 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5929 times:

lots of expansion plans for AMS, with the demand they can double in 2014, but regulations stops them from doing that...

User currently offlineAZA330 From Italy, joined Feb 2004, 289 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5725 times:

I thought Milano Malpensa was more busy than Roma Fiumicino...oh, well...  Smile

User currently offlineFlyAUA From Austria, joined May 2005, 4604 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5646 times:

Quoting MauriceB (Reply 11):
but regulations stops them from doing that...

Hey Maurice!

Thanks for that post. Could you please send me a message (or post on here) why there is regulation in place to control growth at AMS? I am really interested to know more about this  Smile



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User currently offline1MillionFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5634 times:

Quoting FlyAUA (Reply 13):
Thanks for that post. Could you please send me a message (or post on here) why there is regulation in place to control growth at AMS? I am really interested to know more about this

It is a noise regulation. AMS is only allowed to generate so much cumulative noise over various sectors of the city during a year.

Normally by about Novemeber there are certain runways that can't even be used because that sector of the city has reached the limit for overflight noise.

I know when I lived in the Jordaan section of AMS the NW DC-10s made so much noise you wondered if they were going to make it!

[Edited 2005-07-02 17:35:14]

go to http://www.schiphol.nl/ click on "The Schiphol group" Environment and then click on NOMOS you will see the indcatation of all the sound measeuring devices around the city, mouse over and you can see the decibel levels.

It is not available in English I am afraid.

It is a VERY cool though!

[Edited 2005-07-02 17:46:51]

User currently offlineFlyAUA From Austria, joined May 2005, 4604 posts, RR: 56
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 5588 times:

Quoting 1MillionFlyer (Reply 14):

Wow, I am surprised to see this information. One would have expected that they would do something about it (different SID/STAR, or redistribute traffic) Thanks for your reply!



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User currently offline1MillionFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 5576 times:

You are very welcome.

If you click on the tab below the city diagram you can see the top 10 noise events in the last 24 hours.

5 747-400s
1 DC10
2 747-300's
1 747-100
1 MD83


User currently offlineScott0305 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 196 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5454 times:

Is it me or is LTN not on that list?????

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26376 posts, RR: 76
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5449 times:

Quoting Scott0305 (Reply 17):
Is it me or is LTN not on that list?????

LTN is not on that list.



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User currently offlineAF B777-300 From France, joined Jan 2001, 14 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5432 times:

In 2004, CDG surpassed Frankfurt for the FIRST time as Europe's second busiest airport with 51.3 million passengers, which represents an evolution of 6.3 % with 2003, while Frankfurt handled 51.1 million. ORY handled 24 million passengers (+7.1%/2003). So the figures that Munich posted are not good for CDG. It's great to see ORY increases again.
About CDG, I think it has one of the biggest potential in Europe, as there is the Satellite S3 in construction which will be able to handle 9 or 10 million passengers, and an other new terminal dedicated to regional operations is expected to be built just near the satellite S3.


User currently offlineAF B777-300 From France, joined Jan 2001, 14 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5400 times:

Oh, I forget to tell my source for the figures concerning CDG and ORY : the UCCEGA, which controls french airports.

User currently offlineOSA330 From Austria, joined Jun 2005, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5300 times:

Has anyone information regarding the percentage of transferring passengers?
I guess that Frankfurt generates approx. 50% connecting passengers, whereas CDG or LHR are likely to be weaker. Frankfurt is a small but nice city, but there is almost no leisure or tourism traffic terminating in FRA.


User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5287 times:

THIS IS NOT A COMPLETE LIST!

Quoting Scott0305 (Reply 17):
Is it me or is LTN not on that list?????

I noticed it too.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 18):
LTN is not on that list

Hmmmmmm. Why?

Luton and these other airports must surely have more than the 12,000 pax of #88 Liegge.

What about Belfast?
What about Exeter?
What about Cardiff?
What about Bristol?
What about Rotterdam?
What about Moscow Sheremeteyevo and Vnukovo?
What about Bratislava?
What about Kiev?
What about Belgrade?
What about Thessaloniki?
What about Dresden?
What about Berlin Schonefeld and Templehof?
What about Naples?
What about Olbia?
What about Palermo?
What about Bern?
What about Ajaccio?
What about Clermont-Ferrand?
What about Liverpool?
What about Newcastle?
What about Salzburg?

I think you all get the idea.....
This list is very incomplete. The bottom is 12,000 passengers. I would bet everyone of these airports had more than that for the month of Dec2004.



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User currently offlineMunich From Germany, joined Mar 2002, 155 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5157 times:

Quoting AF B777-300 (Reply 19):
In 2004, CDG surpassed Frankfurt for the FIRST time as Europe's second busiest airport with 51.3 million passengers, which represents an evolution of 6.3 % with 2003, while Frankfurt handled 51.1 million. ORY handled 24 million passengers (+7.1%/2003). So the figures that Munich posted are not good for CDG. It's great to see ORY increases again.

I think, you are not right AF B777-300. I know the preliminary ACI-Stats, where CDG is with 51,260,363 and +6.3% is in front of FRA (51,098,271 +5.7%) but it is improbable.

I'm collecting passenger- and movement-statistics since years ago and the experience shows, that the figures at the ACI-Europe-Page are normaly more exact as the figures on the ACI-World-Website.

The other reason is, I (have) collect(ed) the monthly stats from airports-/ goverments-websites and there is also CDG barely behind FRA and 3rd on this French website there is CDG with 50,951,316 passengers also behind FRA (look at page 59.

But we will see. The finally stats by ACI World are normally available in September every year.

Btw. This year (Jan.-Apr.) CDG ist a little bit more in front of FRA like in th same time last year.

CDG 2005 Jan-Apr.: 16,128,925 | +4.11% - 2004 Jan.-Apr.: 15,492,319

FRA 2004 Jan-Apr.: 15,594,184 | +1.04% - 2004 Jan.-Apr.: 15,433,581


I think this year CDG will pass FRA, also finally.



Regards! Robert alias munich
User currently offlineMunich From Germany, joined Mar 2002, 155 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5149 times:

Quoting OSA330 (Reply 21):
Has anyone information regarding the percentage of transferring passengers?
I guess that Frankfurt generates approx. 50% connecting passengers

Yes, last year round about 55%



Regards! Robert alias munich
25 Post contains images MauriceB : hi FlyAUA , its indeed a noise problem... this is why they plan to make LEY (lelystad) The second airport of the Netherlands with about 20% of the cur
26 Post contains links Munich : Stirling, you are right! This isnt a complete list. All listed Airports are menmbers by ACI-Europe, if not, they are not listed. It's the same with a
27 Post contains images LifelinerOne : There was a very nice article in the newspaper "Het Parool" last week regarding the future of Schiphol. There's a board here in The Netherlands who g
28 Post contains images FlyAUA : It is indeed a shame when airport operations are capped becuase of people that keep complaining. They don't realise the economic benefits coupled wit
29 Post contains links and images LifelinerOne : The link: http://www.parool.nl/nieuws/2005/JUN/30/p1.html This is just a smaller version of the article. If you want to read the whole, you need to s
30 FlyAUA : So for those that are interested, it's basically on about how AMS will be buying out the area close to the aerodrome and preventing further residents
31 Post contains links Morvious : They already changed the SIDS and STARS many times. ATC even uses different routes (away from the standard routes) what causes even more trouble. Que
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