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Airliners - They're Much Shorter In Person  
User currently offlineGlom From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2815 posts, RR: 10
Posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2830 times:

We were driving along the LHR perimeter road and arrived at the crossing to the BA maintenance area just in time to see a 744 cross. When I first saw it, I thought it was the 747SP until I realised that BA doesn't have any and that they don't have a stretched upper deck. When you see them for real, the 744 looks much shorter than it does in the photos.

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User currently offlineLee From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 148 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2804 times:

On a similar note, i deplaned a 777 at a remote stand today, the engines are HUGE !!!!

User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2795 times:

That's how I felt about the Concorde. It always looked so huge in photos and on TV, but when I finally saw one, I was disappointed as it was about the size of a DC-9.

User currently offlineGlom From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2815 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2775 times:

Quoting Lee (Reply 1):
On a similar note, i deplaned a 777 at a remote stand today, the engines are HUGE !!!!

I stand by that. When I was preparing to board a 777 at LGW at Easter the engines did look massive, bigger than they look in most 777 photos.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21474 posts, RR: 60
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2769 times:

Longer upper deck makes the 743/744 look "short" compared to how long it really is. The 747Adv will look better.

The A380 looks short, too.

The 773 and 346 look long, as do the stretch MD-80s, the 753 and 764.



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User currently offlineDAL7e7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 357 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2726 times:

I always thought the 767 looked short because it was wide, and the 757 long because it was skinny, but they are the are length almost. I agree, the A346 and 773 look almost too long for their wings.


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User currently offlineUswyjer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2695 times:

I had the same reaction the first time I saw a 747-200 in person.. all the photos from JFK in the 70s make them seem so long... but then in person... kind of a shock lol.

User currently offlineGrimey From Ireland, joined Jun 2005, 449 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2696 times:

Quoting Glom (Thread starter):
When you see them for real, the 744 looks much shorter than it does in the photos.

True, I was on a B747 for the first time last week and I thought it wasn't as big on the inside as I thought it would have been, I was also on a BAE-146 and that seemed bigger on the inside then I thought it would have been.

and yes I seen an AF B777 at CDG and the engines were big.

Grimey


User currently offlineFlyingNanook From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 830 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2702 times:

I don't think so. When I flew SEA-YEG with QX, we boarded the Dash 8 which was parked next to a NW 744. That 744 sure seemed longer than I remembered from the last time I rode in one. Then again, I was walking on the ground right next to it. But still, that plane was huge. It's all a matter of perspective.


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User currently offlineAerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7165 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2588 times:

Quoting Lee (Reply 1):
i deplaned a 777 at a remote stand today, the engines are HUGE !!!!

The engines on the 773ER/772LR are noticeably larger in person. I was walking along the ramp in front of an EK 773ER and an MH772 parked next to each other the other day and the EK engines were much bigger. I had noticed that without the direct comparison, but it was nice to directly see it for myself. I have to say though, the 744 is certainly as large as I thought. When you stand at the nose of a 744 it is a long way up to the cockpit, and even further to the tailplane...
On the inside it often feels shorter than it is because you aren't walking the full length of the plane if you travel in Y cos there's business & first that you don't walk through.


User currently offlineIBERIA747 From Spain, joined Aug 2003, 1831 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2535 times:

Quoting Aerorobnz (Reply 9):
The engines on the 773ER/772LR are noticeably larger in person. I was walking along the ramp in front of an EK 773ER and an MH772 parked next to each other the other day and the EK engines were much bigger.

I don't know what engines the EK 777s are equipped with but in case they are th GE90s, they are much bigger than the RR and P&W.

So the physical size of the engines would not exactly depend on the 777 type (200 or 300) but on the engine type.

About the aircraft size when seen "in person", I agree. That happens mostly with the bigger jets (747, 340, DC-10, etc)...they always look smaller than one could think they would be.

[Edited 2005-07-04 00:11:52]


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User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9523 posts, RR: 42
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2416 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 2):
That's how I felt about the Concorde... it was about the size of a DC-9.

It is quite small overall but its length is actually closer to the length of a 747 than a DC-9:

747 231 ft
Concorde 204 ft
DC-9-50 133 ft

Had me fooled till I saw them side by side.


User currently onlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4770 posts, RR: 26
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2250 times:
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I find this observation true for many things in life. Take for example, baseball fields, or basketball courts. Anyone remember the first time they went a professional baseball or basketball game and caught that first glimpse of the field/court? Looks much smaller than on TV doesn't it?

Before I began working around planes everyday, on the rare occasion I got to go to an airport and see planes "up close" (compared to flying over my house) I was always struck by how small they actually are. I was used to seeing airliners fly over my house on approach into SJC at around 5000-6000 feet and over time, I guess my mind tricked me into believing they must be really big if I can see them so well from that distance.

It's all a matter of perspective. Just curious (and excuse me as I take you way off the topic of aviation)...I don't expect to get many "yes" answers, but has anyone here ever walked to the back area of a bowling alley where the pins and pinsetters are? I used to work at a bowling alley when I was younger and the first time I walked along the lanes and saw the pins from right next to them, I was amazed by how different they look from up close than from 60 feet away. If you have no idea what I'm talking about, then I'll ask, have you ever seen a bowling pin up close? Or held one? Did it by chance seem so...small??

Anyway, I'm getting at the fact that things look different when viewed from that up close and in person perspective rather than in a picture, on TV, or even simply from a distance.



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User currently offlineAirWillie6475 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2448 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2159 times:

This is especially true when you look at the flight deck of airliners. They look completely different when you view them in person then in pictures. Take the flight deck of a 73G, it looks very small and cramped compared to the pics which make it look spacious. And the displays look smaller than they do in the pictures. Also I was surprised at how cramped the CRJ900 cockpit was. But they do look very nice with all those colorful displays.

User currently offlineJeffry747 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 963 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2138 times:

Flew on an Independence RJ from SDF to IAD a few months ago. Taxied behind some Southwest 737s on the way out. I thought the Baby Boeings looked huge compared to our little Canadair RJ


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User currently onlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4770 posts, RR: 26
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1939 times:
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Quoting AirWillie6475 (Reply 13):
This is especially true when you look at the flight deck of airliners. They look completely different when you view them in person then in pictures. Take the flight deck of a 73G, it looks very small and cramped compared to the pics which make it look spacious. And the displays look smaller than they do in the pictures. Also I was surprised at how cramped the CRJ900 cockpit was. But they do look very nice with all those colorful displays.

Yeah, I agree. Also, what you don't really get from pics is how deep the display panel is in relation to the MCP.



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