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A380 Heading Off On Asian Sales Tour  
User currently offlineHawker From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 105 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 7576 times:

May be another thread on this, but anyway just reported in the Australia media that the A380 will be visiting Australia in the near future. An Airbus spokesman was shown saying a detailed itinerary will be drawn up in the next few months.

I imagine there will be a fairly extensive sales tour of most countries in between. Couldn't see any details on the Airbus site though.

It was also interesting the Melbourne airport fire chief stated they will roster extra fireman every time a whale flight is due. Wonder if that will be normal for all airports.

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User currently offlineEKGOLD From Australia, joined May 2005, 207 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 7511 times:

Quoting Hawker (Thread starter):
It was also interesting the Melbourne airport fire chief stated they will roster extra fireman every time a whale flight is due. Wonder if that will be normal for all airports.

makes sense.... obvioulsy its a bigger fire and more emergency response teams will be needed to evacuate/assist a greater number of passengers, heaven forbid an accident/incident...

Presume the big girl will stop in Dubai on its trip down through Asia if not the Dubai Air Show.


User currently offlineGlareskin From Netherlands, joined Jun 2005, 1303 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 7411 times:

Quoting Hawker (Thread starter):
Wonder if that will be normal for all airports.

Even if it is this doesn't mean more costs. One A380 is equivalent of more than one conventional aircraft in terms of amount of pax and therefore airports will need more staff and tools.

Question is if this will result in savings or extra costs in the bottom line... (per pax that is)



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User currently offlineAtmx2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4576 posts, RR: 38
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 7374 times:

If it increases peak demand for such resources then it increases costs as you have to satisfy the peak requirements at all times. Presumably A380s are going to increase capacity at slot restricted airports, so one would expect certain costs to rise with that increase in capacity.


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User currently offlineFlyAUA From Austria, joined May 2005, 4604 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 7109 times:

Quoting Hawker (Thread starter):

Good to see that airbus are not just sitting on their arses and waiting for the customers to come for future A380 orders. They'll be doing a good job by showing airlines what they could be buying and how it would benefit their airline.  Smile

So anybody care to guess which airlines in Asia (which are not already customers) qualify as A380 viable?



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User currently offlineN79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6933 times:

Has the 2nd A380 been rolled out of the factory yet? If so, has it flown?

User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6871 times:

EKGOLD

You are right , it makes sense to go to Australia after the Dubai Air Show.
In this case it will be there in November in Emirates cs.

N79969

No , the second frame hasn't flown yet.Surely it is completed and maybe painted.


User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12394 posts, RR: 46
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6806 times:
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Quoting EKGOLD (Reply 1):
Presume the big girl will stop in Dubai on its trip down through Asia if not the Dubai Air Show.

Since I couldn't make Paris, it had better be at Dubai!  bouncy 



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User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6772 times:

Quoting EKGOLD (Reply 1):
Quoting Hawker (Thread starter):
It was also interesting the Melbourne airport fire chief stated they will roster extra fireman every time a whale flight is due. Wonder if that will be normal for all airports.

makes sense.... obvioulsy its a bigger fire and more emergency response teams will be needed to evacuate/assist a greater number of passengers,

But during such a sales-tour the a/c will not fly from X to Y fully loaded with pax or make pleasure flights with a full load of pax - or am I wrong here ?
-HT



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User currently offlineHawker From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5612 times:

Couple of random thoughts on the proposed trip.

1. Whichever of the 4 prototypes makes the journey, will it be configured in the layout of its ultimate owner, or will Airbus splash out on some concept designs to impress the natives, e.g. shop, conference centre, exercise area, bedrooms etc?

2. Airbus no doubt want to confirm payload/range characteristics asap. Are long range "proving" flights still necessary for this, or can the onboard computers confirm performance after the first few flights. Alternately will one machine shortly be doing laps of the Mediterranean?


User currently offlineNetdhaka From Bangladesh, joined Feb 2004, 183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5592 times:

Would the cabin interior be finished or half finished to give the potential customers a taste of reality in terms of cabin features and available amenities? I know that they have mockup cabin but a real cabin would feel much more realistic.

User currently offlineFlyAUA From Austria, joined May 2005, 4604 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5491 times:

Quoting Netdhaka (Reply 10):
Would the cabin interior be finished or half finished to give the potential customers a taste of reality in terms of cabin features and available amenities? I know that they have mockup cabin but a real cabin would feel much more realistic.

See Reply #32. I think they will be using that one if they have any brains.



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User currently offlineAeroPiggot From United States of America, joined May 2005, 283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5392 times:

Obviously, they have started some NAMs testing, and are basically trying to "kill two birds with one stone", by doing some advertising at the same time.

With this oversize wing, the current model should do just fine in any NAMs or payload testing exercise, so expect good news on how the airplane exceed prediction.



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User currently offlineKL808 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5365 times:

What Asian cities will it visit on its way to Australia?

Will it visit NRT, HKG, and SIN?

Drew



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User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3619 times:

Maybe it would go to Japan (BIG MAYBE), Hong Kong, Beijing, Shanghai, KUL, and India. There are still a few Asian carriers that might have interest. Air China has not ordered, right? Malaysian hasn't ordered and only one carrier in India has done so.

But... as they are saying in the other thread about KLM and the A380, airlines won't buy it if they know they can't fill it. Those that are buying it are putting in luxury. Maybe some carriers want a plane of that size but are afraid that if they can't fill it with full fare passengers it will become a problem and not a solution. This tour could really help there. We all know that First and Business pay for the plane in the end, but the majority is still Y. IMO, The plane has to be profitable with all three classes. This is hard, but if Airbus can prove it...you might see some more operators signing on.



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3585 times:

Quoting Centrair (Reply 14):
Malaysian hasn't ordered and only one carrier in India has done so.

MH have 6 on order.... Wink



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User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2946 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3349 times:

CA, CX, MU, CI, & BR are all possiblities, with the former three strong candidates. OZ could be included but similar to KLM they have only a handful of 744 all-pax versions.
Airbus could send the A380 to Japan but not sure what good it will do.
JL is in no hurry for an order and NH is hardly interested.


User currently offlineHKGKaiTak From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 1050 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3276 times:

Why would Airbus need to bring the A380 here to Oz for sales? It would only ever appeal to 1 airline, and, oh, last time I checked, this airline has quite a few A380 on order already!

Methinks it probably would've gotten here as a test flight and perhaps for Dixon et al to walk thru one. It would be fantastic to see it here in SYD!!!



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21474 posts, RR: 60
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3218 times:

They need to send it around the world for the public to get jazzed about it.

Unlike the 772LR, this is a new product, and the public knows about it, even casual flyers. When it makes the newspaper or local news report, people in the pubs talk about it. I've seen it happen here in LA two times. It gets in the paper, then at the local watering hole, people talk about.

So the world tour is a "look at our plane. it's an Airbus." goodwill tour.

The 772LR, on the other hand, is flying to see potential customers, not pax. B needs to prove it is worth it and useful enough to buy. One reason it's making it's world tour much sooner in relation to first flight. That and the airframe is already proven in 4 other versions, so there is less risk.



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