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772LR Just Departed Hong Kong For Gatwick  
User currently offlineN754PR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 10958 times:

Boeing 002 just departed Hong Kong for Gatwick and from what I understand its overflying Seattle on the way. A new world record when completed.

Funny thing was it only used half the runway!!

[Edited 2005-07-06 06:06:02]

55 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21478 posts, RR: 60
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 10885 times:

No ballast + GE90-110B = short takeoff.

I forgot they were going to do this one stop around the world flight so soon. HKG-LGW-HKG all going East, overflying SEA. Pretty fun.

But that's only 9800nm using the great circle mapper. I don't know how to measure it using the website if you want to draw a straight line from one city to another through a middle city. I know they don't want to do great circle routes, but a straight line of longer distance for proving.

I mapped out a relatively straight path using HKG-NRT-SEA-YHZ-LGW and got 10,640nm. I assume if I could make it even straighter, it would be close to 11,000nm. But there are no islands between HNL and Alaska to help me, and YHZ isn't ideal.



Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineCM767 From Panama, joined Dec 2004, 651 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 10853 times:

How long the first leg is going to be? , Could it be near to 24 hours????


But The Best Thing God Has Created Is A New Day
User currently offlineB744Heavy From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 weeks ago) and read 10749 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 1):
I don't know how to measure it using the website

Hi, is there a website you can use to calculate city pair distances ?.

Cant wait to see the results of this flight Boeing 002 HKG-LGW.
Amazing aircraft, which will become a best seller in the future in my view.

Cheers
B744Heavy


User currently offlineCM767 From Panama, joined Dec 2004, 651 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 weeks ago) and read 10706 times:

Quoting B744Heavy (Reply 3):
Hi, is there a website you can use to calculate city pair distances ?.

http://gc.kls2.com/



But The Best Thing God Has Created Is A New Day
User currently offlineRom1 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 weeks ago) and read 10646 times:

Anyone knows what time it will approximately land at Gatwick?

which rwy is in use?

will there be a lot more security on the roof of the central area parking at the south terminal?

thanks!


User currently offlineZOTAN From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 609 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 weeks ago) and read 10623 times:

Ive heard it will spend 23 hours in the air, but I cant remember where I heard that.

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21478 posts, RR: 60
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 10586 times:

I think it will be over 24 hours, if this is indeed the record flight attempt. The 772ER flew 10823nm in 1997. You'd hope they routed this one to be longer by more than just a few hundred miles.


Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineUA747400 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 10580 times:

Well, this will most likely prove to Qantas that the 777-200LR can go the distance, and will soon order the aircraft, hopefully


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21478 posts, RR: 60
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 10558 times:

How? By loading it up with fuel but no other payload beyond the demonstration interior it carries now? If that were all it took to prove it, QF would be using 772ERs already, as that plane flew 10,800nm, which is good enough even going west SYD-LHR. Just with no pax or baggage.

This flight doesn't prove much. It's really just for fun.



Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineSukhoi From Sweden, joined May 2006, 373 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 10422 times:

26L at LGW ETA 17.10

User currently offlineUdo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 10399 times:

Quoting UA747400 (Reply 8):
Well, this will most likely prove to Qantas that the 777-200LR can go the distance, and will soon order the aircraft, hopefully

Flying with no payload, it won't prove anything.


Regards
Udo


User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 10357 times:

Quoting Udo (Reply 11):

Flying with no payload, it won't prove anything.

It will prove that it has greater range than the A340-500 or B777-200ER, but that's hardly a surprise. Perhaps more importantly, it establishes a point on the Z chart.

If the goal is to impress QF, I would have flown LHR-SYD westbound. Of course, eastbound records are numerically impressive.


User currently offlineN754PR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 10295 times:

Its nothing more than we flew the longest, simple as that.

User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4105 posts, RR: 51
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 10101 times:

Quoting Sukhoi (Reply 10):
26L at LGW ETA 17.10

Is that today, 6th July?

Sam



Despite the name I am a Boeing man through and through!
User currently offlineAirplanepics From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2732 posts, RR: 41
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 10089 times:

Quoting A340600 (Reply 14):
Is that today, 6th July?

Yep!



Simon - London-Aviation.com
User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4105 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 10080 times:

Quoting Airplanepics (Reply 15):
Yep!

Jesus Christ, i'm off there then!

Sam biggrin 



Despite the name I am a Boeing man through and through!
User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 36
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 9870 times:

Quoting Udo (Reply 11):
Flying with no payload, it won't prove anything.

Is there any information on what load it's carrying?

I doubt that it is flying light. Knowing Boeing, they'll have loaded it up as much as they can for the obvious reason - to make sure the trip proves the aeroplane out in operational conditions.



"Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards.." - Leonardo da Vinci
User currently offlineMoose1226 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 250 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 9714 times:

Does anyone know if I can track it on airnav flight tracker? If so, what is the callsign?

User currently offlineEmrecan From Turkey, joined Feb 2000, 938 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 9592 times:

will it be the longest flight?

or still Qantas London-Sydney (ferry flight of 747-400ER) is the longest flight ever done by a commercial jet?


User currently offlineScottishLaddie From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 2384 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 9152 times:

When does it leave LGW!?

User currently offlineA360 From Portugal, joined Jun 2005, 434 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 9146 times:

^Yes, it will be the longest.

Quoting NAV20 (Reply 17):
I doubt that it is flying light. Knowing Boeing, they'll have loaded it up as much as they can for the obvious reason - to make sure the trip proves the aeroplane out in operational conditions.

Of course they haven't.... otherwise, it couldn't flight the route!


User currently offlineIDAWA From Italy, joined Aug 2004, 303 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 9078 times:

Sorry for my ignorance but...what's so exceptional in a HKG-LON flight?
Doesn't a normal 744 take just 13 hours with a good payload?

I-DAWA



Flown on: 319, 320, 321, 340, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, 777, DC9, D10, M11, M80, 146, EM2, BEH, CRJ, DH8, L4T.
User currently offlineBoeingBus From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1596 posts, RR: 18
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 9052 times:

You all need to periodically check the Flight Test Journal on Boeing's web for updates...

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/777family/200LR/flight_test/

Check out the photo's too...

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/777family/200LR/photos.html



Airbus or Boeing - it's all good to me!
User currently offlineCX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6588 posts, RR: 55
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 9000 times:

If your ETA into LGW is correct, then surely it can't have flown around the world over Seattle? I saw it depart HKG, and it passed the end of the runway at 2000ft climbing....that can't be a 23 hr flight surely?

25 Glom : Is that 1710 local?
26 Widebodyphotog : The 777-200LR will be flying the route Eastbound, not the normal shorter Westbound route. -widebodyphotog
27 Dynkrisolo : Agree with CX flyboy. The ETA at LGW does not look right. It should be arriving early in the morning in LGW. AFAIK, it'll not be a one-stop around-th
28 IDAWA : OK, I was missing this essential information! I-DAWA
29 A340600 : Is the ETA right because it makes the decision of whether to cycle to the airport, Sam
30 Ikramerica : If 1710 is right, it flew west. I thought it was early for this record flight. All news reports said it would fly "later this year" and more informati
31 Hamlet69 : This is not the 24 hour flight. This is simply part of the sales tour. As already stated, there will be plenty of press leading up to the record attem
32 Sukhoi : It landed 17.01 Cheers Paul
33 Ikramerica : 12 hours. It flew west. Side note, the flight testing part of the program is nearly complete. WD001 and WD002 have logged over 400 of the planned 500
34 Tockeyhockey : they're going the LONG way! over seattle!
35 Post contains links and images A340600 : Yep, arrived 17.01: http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../ready/2005_0706LGW6july001333.jpg Nice plane, slowed very quickly after landing with no pa
36 Ikramerica : Well, they are going to do that eventually. This just wasn't the day. False alarm.
37 Ikramerica : With extra main landing gear (773ER landing gear are used on 772LR), does that mean more brakes too? Add to that larger engines for reversing, and I
38 The777Man : Looking at the picture, it seems that it got another sticker for another customer.....I guess that must be for Jet Airways (9w)? The777Man
39 Ikramerica : not implying more wheels, but I understand the gear is bigger, so I would assume the brakes could be larger as well.
40 N60659 : That's right. The picture of the sticker was clearer on another photo linked on another thread recently. The four stickers are for PIA, Eva, Air Indi
41 AeroPiggot : There are no extra landing gear on the 777-300ER, all 777's have two post main landing gears, with 6 wheel trucks each.
42 Ikramerica : You should read all the posts before you criticize others. I even made sure to clarify so that nobody thought I meant it had 50 wheels or something. 1
43 Trent900 : Just out of interest, would the A340-5 be able to fly this route with no payload etc? The Airbus website says it can fly 9000 nm with a full load. Sur
44 Dynkrisolo : At equal payload, the 772lr should be able to out-fly the 345. So, it's not a meaningless demonstration.
45 Post contains images Boeing7E7 : At least it's flying rather than causing engineers to scratch their heads. [Edited 2005-07-06 23:58:17]
46 Ikramerica : It will prove something. It will prove that this plane can fly further without payload than any other commercial jet previously could fly without a pa
47 Irishpower : As flight testing progresses don't you think Boeing will test the plane with full fuel and ballast to simulate a full pax. load? Maybe then they will
48 Post contains images Glideslope : Man, you nailed that one brother. Well done.
49 Post contains images Udo : What are you talking about? Which one isn't flying? Reminds me of some dogs I've just seen while jogging...one did his business in a corner - and the
50 Ikramerica : Or "yum, dinner already?!"
51 Boeing7E7 : Let me know when your favorite bird starts pond hopping vs doing donuts.
52 Glom : While payload is obviously significant, the fuel is a much greater proportion of the TOW so it's not like it departed with a weight that anyone could
53 Fanoftristars : So did it make the flight? I thought I saw it at Boeing Field today, with a few fuel trucks around it. That is one hot paint job!
54 Ikramerica : That was probably WD001 at Boeing. WD002 was the plane this thread is about.
55 Sukhoi : After talking to the crew yesterday it seems as though a date has not been set in stone for the distance record, all they would give me was fall this
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