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No More YX MKE-SFO?  
User currently offlineMkeflyer717 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 431 posts, RR: 11
Posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2473 times:

I noticed a while back that this once saver service flight which was supposed to resume service in may has actually not and I would like to know why? The Midwest route map still shows MKE-SFO. Details anyone?  Smile

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User currently offlineCO777 From South Africa, joined Apr 2000, 261 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2411 times:
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User currently offlineN77014 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2348 times:

Is this not a seasonal searvice? I was offered to pass travel on that flight to interview for Skyway.

User currently offlineMlsrar From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 1417 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2330 times:

Quoting N77014 (Reply 2):
Is this not a seasonal searvice?

It was originally season service with a 1900 MKE Departure, and a red-eye return. It was not reinstated this past April, as they had sufficient connecting traffic through MCI.

MCI still uses the Signature-80s, so it is a bit of an improvement over what the n/s offered.

I wish the n/s would return, as it was timed well for transpac departures  Sad

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User currently offlineKnope2001 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3401 posts, RR: 34
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2256 times:

Last summer Midwest few MKE-SFO with Saver (2x3) aircraft. It carried very light loads:

Westbound (roughly 7:25pm departure)
May 48.9%
Jun 49.8%
Jul 62.6%
Aug 57.0%
Sep 45.0%

Eastbound (redeye flight)
May 37.3%
Jun 42.1%
Jul 49.0%
Aug 43.1%
Sep 32.4%

Why so dismal?

(1) The flights were at unattractive off-peak times. This MKE-SFO-MKE was essentially an overnight "utilization" flight. The evening departure isn't particularly desirable, and the redeye return is generally to be avoided. The eastbound redeye carried on average 22% fewer passengers that the evening westbound.

(2) Daytime flight (via MCI) is Signature, while this was Saver. Not a positive.

(3) Too many seats for a relative thin market. Before Saver, Midwest used to fly MKE-SFO nonstop with 112-seat M88's from April through December. Loads were usually strong during summer, but yield was comparably weak. Last year's Saver flights were with 143-seat M88's, and for an off-peak flight like this one it was simply too many seats. They averaged 67.3 pax per flight, but that's just not going to cut it.

Loads on MKE-MCI-SFO have been very heavy, particularly this summer. So I wouldn't be too surprised to find next summer either:

(a) a daytime MKE-SFO nonstop with a Saver aircraft, or

(b) added MCI-SFO service (Signature) to give both MCI and MKE more access to San Francisco.

If they can comfortably send the 717 on MCI-SFO instead of the M80, then option B seems more likely.

User currently offlineN659AA From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2211 times:

I think this is as much a (suitable) aircraft availability issue as it is a low traffic issue as Knope2001 mentions. YX only has two aircraft capable of reaching the westcoast from MKE without severe weight restrictions and they are deployed on MKE-LAX and MKE-LAS.

I have heard from people at YX that they are on the lookout for M88 or M83 aircraft to do more longhaul flying from MKE. I think MKE-SEA is high on the wish list once suitable aircraft can be located. Summer MKE-SFO service at decent times would also fall into this category perhaps

User currently offlineBoeing7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2148 times:

I'm curious to see what they add in the coming months. I think they pick up one or two birds between now and the Holiday season.

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