Critter From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 267 posts, RR: 2 Posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2164 times:
Hey Southwest!.....Red Bellies and Puke Tan went away with disco, and trying to cover it up with a whale isn't much better. American also needs a "facelift". The retro-silver look has passed you by. Lets show a little color and character. I am also very dissapointed with Delta's new try at a livery. The old new livery was an improvement on the 80's look but this 2000 look has to go. Any other liveries that need help?
NYC Int'l From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1959 times:
SWA's paint scheme is very much part of the airlines charm. It certainly stands out in a herd at the terminal. And painting aircraft cost alot of lira! and as I understand it AA claims that their polished bare metal saves them money. That from Emperor-dowager Crandle himself.
Pedro757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1946 times:
I think airliners.net needs a new color scheme. So does TAP Air Portugal, AA. The 2000 Delta schemes stinks! I would also like to see only 1 Aeroflot scheme and air france needs to either get a new scheme or start washing their planes.
Goingboeing From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4875 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1939 times:
Go out to ORD and watch a UAL and US jet taxi toward you. Quick now, name the airline. You've got a 50/50 chance of being right. Now motor on over to MDW and let a WN jet taxi towards you. You'll know who it is long before it makes it to the ramp area.
Even better, watch some planes that are on approach or takeoff from a spot about 50 miles from the airport. Look up. I'd bet money that you'll easily recognize the WN jet. But it could be difficult identifying the others without binoculars or a telescope.
The color may be ugly, but I haven't been able to see the fuselage color from the interior of the aircraft yet.
747-600X From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2784 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1927 times:
No way! American and Southwest have two very good liveries! American's is clean, patriotic, and beautiful. When clean, it shines and is amazing. Their livery has to stay. The longer they keep it, the better.
Southwest is also good. It's tan, so what? It looks deserty, VERY southwest indeed! (Not that the airline is worth it, but...)
United REALLY needs to loose the gloomy dark blue and grey.
Air Canada/Canadian, Delta, TAP Air Portugal, Lufthansa, Finnair, Aeroflot, Canada 3000, Monarch, British Airways, and BWIA all need new liveries.
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JAT From Canada, joined Feb 2000, 1101 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1905 times:
What's wrong with Air Canada's livery? It's not even 10 years old!!!!!!!!
Also, although Canada 3000 needs a new livery, I think they are smart saving money and not wasting on re-painting planes. I mean when it comes to bottom line, especially for a budget carrier like Canada 3000, what's more important, what the plane looks like or the price of the ticket?
MD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8494 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1891 times:
I cannot imagine why in the world Delta changed their livery. They had a classy paint scheme that reminded one of Delta's long heritage of being at the forefront of the airlines. All their new liveries are ugly! (although I do like the tail of that 777 on the newest one). I also think that Southwest's planes are ugly. The colors remind me of the interior of a 1976 Piper Archer II I flew in recently. Burnt orange and tan DON'T go well together. However, American's is elegant and shouldn't be changed for another couple of decades.
Slawko From Canada, joined May 1999, 3799 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1885 times:
I don't think that AC shoudl change their colours now (although maybe after AC and CP are completely merged they could look at an improvement.) But back when they indroduced their latest colours I would have liked to see the entire airplane in the two tone green with the red stripe in between, like the AC check in counter signs are. It is hard to pucture when all there is to esplain it is text but I think that if they had gone with that it would have looked really really kool, No other airline had an all Green airplane, until CITYBIRD changed their colours.
Also I think that LOT needs a new paint scheme, they have had the same colours since the communist days and the Soviet airplanes.....
"Clive Beddoe says he favours competition, but his actions do not support that idea." Robert Milton - CEO Air Canada
AeroAussie From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1889 times:
Ok, Canada3000 needs a new name and livery. jmc's livery is fine, it's the name that has to go. As for American, a little change wouldn't hurt, but they need to keep the silver look. Delta's new look is absolute trash, and BWIA's needs improvement. Southwest is just fine, but UA deffinately needs help. As for Aeroflot, their new one is great, if they could only get it on everything. I can't stand TACA's new livery, and Air Canada is just to bland. They need cheatlines, or something such as to spice things up. Lufthansa also needs to be spiced up. Just like their Star Partner Air Canada, they are too bland. BA needs to keep the diversity, Garuda needs to spice things up also. And, finally, Finnair, Air France, and ElAl also need some more color.
On the positive side, kudos to Lan Chile for their new one, and also to America West, TWA, KLM, and Sabena who all have great logos. (So Cathay, Air New Zealand, Royal Jordanian, Emirates, Saudi Arabian, and Avianca.)
TWAneedsHELP From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1888 times:
You guys all have bad taste. AA's livery is very classy, very professional, and most importantly very well identified. Some smart up there was smart to point out that SWA's is outdated, but thats what makes SWA...SWA. They use that quirky, off-centered style to identify themselves, and it clearly works. I'm not a big fan of plain white fuselages (Air Canada/Delta2000/South African/EgyptAir). It used to look simple and minimalistic, but now it just lacks any personality at all. I'll vote for my favorite livery, the old orange and blue colors of South African Airlines with the springbok on the tail. Now that was a classy, professional look with a lot of character. UAL and US Airways have dark rich colors because they seek business travelers who usually like that dark, staid style. Lufthansa?? The German flag carrier has a very likeable look. Air France also is well accepted. One that does need an update is Aerolineas, but considering that airlines potential insolvensy, repainting planes is the last thing they need to do. SunCountry could also update, but they're in the same boat as the Argentinians (money needed for more important things)
DesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7737 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1872 times:
I have to totally disagree, I love the Southwest colors. It has character and sticks out in a crowd. I also like AA's colors. The bare metal look will never go out of style. As for United I like the dark grey color scheme. It looks very professional and dignified. Much better than the old scheme. I also like Continental's and TWA's new liveries. Alaska could use a new livery, as long as the keep the smiling eskimo though.
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DeltaRNOmd-80 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1876 times:
Whats wrong with Sun Country?? I like the billboard slanted "Sun Country" on the fuselage, its nice. I also have to disagree about United, they have a great livery as does US Airways. AA's is good as long as clean and Delta's 1997 "old new" livery is great also. They should keep that, or if they are going to keep their 2000 livery, then put the block print white "delta" on the tail, like with the 1997 livery. I think TWA has the best livery in the biz, especially on their md-80's and 717's, looks great.
B727-200 From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 1051 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1828 times:
I think it is about time SIA looked at something new. Yeah, I know it is very recognisable, but there is something about the combination of gold, bronze, orange and black that does nothing for me. Also, when the aircraft get a bit grubby (when the white is not so white) they look terrible.
CharterFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1776 times:
I should say that I'm very disapointed of what they have done with Delta's image. It's so boring. The previous livery was not outstanding, but it was a symbol of continuity.
By the way, for those who want to change AA's livery: would you eliminate the McDonald's "M"? For lots of people around the world, especially American people, change AA's image would be a "Crime against the inheritance". You just can't do that. It's a symbol too. We see it and instantly, we say "That's American Airlines". And it looks great. NYC Int'l said something interesting about the savings they make with this livery. Actually, I've read in a book - and I just couldn't believe it - that AA was saving 360 M$/year in fuel costs just by polishing its MD-80 instead of painting them. I would definitively keep it.
Please! Do something! Put some colors, some shapes to spice it up!
I would turn back to the last paint scheme, that was much better and looked more serious and credible, although the new one is not bad at all.
Can't even see the clover leaf on the tail, it's too tone-on-tone. And the rest is a poor design job.
I think this one is in the top of my "Ugliests Top 10". What a mess! I've never seen such a waste of colors. Give me the name of the marketing company that created it to be sure that I will never hire them. ... And have you seen this ugly paint scheme with the "AeroContinente" markings? geezzzz....
The previous one didn't look great but it was much better than the new one.
Ok, now, let's talk about Canada 3000. JAT said:
"Also, although Canada 3000 needs a new livery, I think they are smart
saving money and not wasting on re-painting planes. I mean when it comes to bottom line, especially for a budget carrier like Canada 3000, what's more important, what the plane looks like or the price of the ticket? "
JAT, you're 100% right. Canada 3000 makes us pay less for air travel. That's what really counts for CMM: low fares and they make it. Although it's not the best livery I've seen (far from that), I like it in some way cause I find it original (yes, original! ). The colors and the shape of their cheatline look nice. And who wanted to change their name... AeroAussi. You don't like it? Canada 3000 is easy to say in French, English, Spanish, Italian... and it's more original than... "Canadian International", or "American Airlines". Don't you think so? It's so original that I just can't tell you where they find that name!!
The previous livery was good; the new one is good too! When I see one of their planes flying over me at FL25, I can read "Air Transat" without any difficulty because their markings are so large and bold! It looks perfect.
Among those I really like are Continental Airlines(looks clean but not plain, classy tail), Northwest(no one's like this one with its rich red and gray tones. Good job). Also, I really like Airtours International. The tail's a masterpiece.
Continental777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1771 times:
I like Southwest Airlines Present livery, it puts class into the Airline, Continental's Livery is cool, keep that one along with SWA for another 10-15 years, Delta
this livery 2000 sucks horrendously. Can't you think of something better, like haven't you ever heard of another color than WHITE. It just isn't looking good Delta. American, well, y'all need to think of a change soon. like a more stylish American and a designer line. Aer Lingus is Ok, ANA is Boring. Canada3000 get a life.