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Any 747 Commercial Flights Within The US?  
User currently offlineSoylentgreen From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 244 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 5018 times:

Does anyone know of any regularly scheduled flights traveling within the continental US only, on Boeing 747s? Thanks!

[Edited 2005-07-07 16:58:28]

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User currently offlineWayfarer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 5014 times:

Does United still fly 747s nonstop from HNL to mainland USA?

User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5190 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4993 times:

Quoting Wayfarer (Reply 1):
Does United still fly 747s nonstop from HNL to mainland USA?

No--maybe some aircraft substitutions. As it stands now I know United has a dily 744 DEN-SFO-DEN routing. The occasional SFO-LAX repositioning flights--beyond that not sure.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32782 posts, RR: 72
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4991 times:

United still flies 744s on a select number of domestic runs between ORD-DEN, DEN-SFO, and ORD-LAX. They are repositioning flights, so the scheudles and routes change often. They even operate LAX-SFO with 744s once in a while. Those are the only bookable flights.

Unbookable, Eva flies Newark-Seattle, El Al flies Miami-Newark, PAL flies Los Angeles-Manila, Asiana flies New York City/JFK-Anchorage, and Qantas flies New York City/JFK-Los Angeles.



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User currently offlineLUV4JFK From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 462 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4961 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 3):
PAL flies Los Angeles-Manila

I think you mean Los Angeles-Honolulu. Don't forget El Al flies Newark-Chicago (O'Hare) once a week, also unbookable.

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User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5190 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4942 times:

Not to mention the unbookable China Airlines SEA-IAH. Every so often they sub the 744 for the 343. Do you know what dates the UA 744 is on those routes--the only one currently scheduled is the DEN-SFO-DEN run--but they show up on those other routes mentioned frequently.


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User currently offlineIADLHR From Italy, joined Apr 2005, 735 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4928 times:

UA also does a IAD-LAX using a 747. In fact I am flying it tonigt.

User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2924 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4888 times:

I flew UA 595 DEN-SFO on a 744 last night. Sat on the upper deck. Very nice ride. Too bad the flight was so short!

User currently offlineBartond From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 790 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4847 times:

I knew that UA puts a 744 on the SFO-DEN run but I've yet to see a 744 routed on DEN-ORD or DEN-IAD. The largest aircraft on those routes is usually a 772, which is very common.

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21529 posts, RR: 59
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4805 times:

Quoting IADLHR (Reply 6):
UA also does a IAD-LAX using a 747. In fact I am flying it tonigt.

Was gonna point that out, but since you are flying on it, good on you for beating me to it!

As for other non-bookable flights, QF of course flies a 744 LAX-JFK a few days a week.



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User currently offlineKhenleyDIA From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 426 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4626 times:

Maybe an odd question, but wouldn't an unbookable flight just be a reposition? Or are there actually pax onboard?

KhenleyDIA



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26493 posts, RR: 75
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4615 times:

Quoting Wayfarer (Reply 1):
Does United still fly 747s nonstop from HNL to mainland USA?

No

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 3):
PAL flies Los Angeles-Manila

And you can book that. You just can't book the LAX-HNL segment. Actually, that segment does not run all the time, as if the winds are favorable, PAL just overflies HNL and refiles to MNL

Quoting KhenleyDIA (Reply 10):
Maybe an odd question, but wouldn't an unbookable flight just be a reposition? Or are there actually pax onboard?

They are repositioning flights that they put PAX from another flight on to. Given the number of people who fly LAX-SFO, it is understandable when UA sometimes needs to use the 744



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User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4469 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4604 times:

Quoting KhenleyDIA (Reply 10):
Maybe an odd question, but wouldn't an unbookable flight just be a reposition? Or are there actually pax onboard?

Those unbookable flights are for the international pax continuing on, so in the case of LAX-JFK on QF, the segment LAX-JFK is only for the pax who origininated on the flight in Australia. Same goes for the reverse. Only pax that can get on at JFK are those whose destination is Australia.


User currently offlineHighFlyer9790 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4590 times:

I think to my knowledge United flies some 744s occasionally on re-positioning flights, and even sometimes operating a SFO-IAD.


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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5957 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4511 times:

From this weeks Schedule......
United Domestic 747-400 Flights.....
LAX-IAD Daily Flight 946
IAD- LAX Daily Flight 947
SFO-DEN Daily Flight 770
DEN-SFO Daily Flight 595

Other times of the year you will see them scheduled on ORD-LAX, ORD-SFO, ORD-IAD and as has been mentioned repositioning/substitutions throughout the system. LAX-SFO-LAX happens once in a while if SFO is fogged in 2-3 737 flights are canceled and they will operate a 747, if one is available, to clear the passenger backlog.



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User currently offlineRDUDDJI From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1483 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4151 times:

I heard last month that UA is opening a 744 pilot base at IAD with approximately 32 pilots to be based there. They are flying 744's to LAX, FRA and LHR that I know of out of IAD. I heard there may be some expansion of 744 flying there.


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User currently offlineN867BX From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 339 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4062 times:

Doesn't Columbia Airlines still fly a 741 IAD-LAX?

User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1914 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4027 times:

JAL flies LAs-LAX w/ a 744

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21529 posts, RR: 59
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4004 times:

Quoting N62NA (Reply 12):
Those unbookable flights are for the international pax continuing on, so in the case of LAX-JFK on QF, the segment LAX-JFK is only for the pax who origininated on the flight in Australia. Same goes for the reverse. Only pax that can get on at JFK are those whose destination is Australia.

I believe you can also book this between LAX-JFK as long as you are going to continue on back to Australia.

For instance. On the same ticket, you can do SYD-LAX, LAX-JFK, JFK-LAX-SYD, but spend time in both LA and NY, no?



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User currently offlineTymnBalewne From Bermuda, joined Mar 2005, 949 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3999 times:

Quoting N867BX (Reply 16):
Doesn't Columbia Airlines still fly a 741 IAD-LAX?

No...Columbia Airlines went out of business after a protracted flight attendants and pilots strike. THe f/a's were insisting on a pay rise since the scope of their roles were increased to include flying the aircraft.

The pilots struck because they viewed the f/a's flying the aircraft as a back-door way of introducing A-scale pilots and B-scale pilots.

C.



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User currently offlineN867BX From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 339 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3944 times:

Quoting TymnBalewne (Reply 19):
No...Columbia Airlines went out of business after a protracted flight attendants and pilots strike. THe f/a's were insisting on a pay rise since the scope of their roles were increased to include flying the aircraft.

Well I suppose, I haven't flown them on that route since 1975 so its possible they no longer fly it.


User currently offlineAussie747 From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3880 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 18):
Quoting N62NA (Reply 12):
Those unbookable flights are for the international pax continuing on, so in the case of LAX-JFK on QF, the segment LAX-JFK is only for the pax who origininated on the flight in Australia. Same goes for the reverse. Only pax that can get on at JFK are those whose destination is Australia.

I believe you can also book this between LAX-JFK as long as you are going to continue on back to Australia.

For instance. On the same ticket, you can do SYD-LAX, LAX-JFK, JFK-LAX-SYD, but spend time in both LA and NY, no?

You can only be on the LAX-JFK or JFK-LAX if you have come off or going to a QF numbered flight operating to/from Australia / New Zealand as a connecting flight (ie as a transit stop only in LAX, and your flights must connect within 24 hours or arriving or departing).

A loop hole with this also is that you can also arrive in Auckland at 10.45 am on QF25 one morning and depart the next day on QF107 to JFK as it is still under 24 hours.


User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3872 times:

And that Columbia Airlines flight 409 IAD-LAX is one VERY long flight...you take off about 11 PM and arrive over Utah about 7 in the morning. That's about a ten-hour flight.

On the other hand, Joe Patroni is still in charge of maintenance, and he's quite good.

Seriously, United is the only airline still flying 747's domestically, and the routes have been quite well discussed. Get on one before they're gone completely!!

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User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4943 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3661 times:

Why are all these flights non-bookable? Whatever happened to 5th Freedoms??? Or are the A345 and 772LR going to end the era of making stops on intercontinental flights?


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