I don't think that CO giving up 5 production slots to ET should diminsh the number of firm orders that they put in. I certainly hope that CO still does order the 10 787s as they are going to need them when things pick up for them 3-4 years down the road.
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21774 posts, RR: 59
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4067 times:
From what others have said, the CO 5 that are missing are likely still being finalized and will be delivered a little later. After all, B can't deliver 10 787s to Boeing on one day.
As for the +1 777 being some kind of mistake for the -1 UA plane, no. No. B does not make mistakes on this order page. They are very careful to only post orders and changes that are 100% firm and check the facts rigorously.
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
DAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3958 times:
Quoting NYC777 (Reply 3): I don't think so. when ET placed their order they had 5 options which they exercised. I don't think CO gave ET their 5 firm and I don't think ET has any more options. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
You are correct, ET took all of their options before Pairs, a bare 3 months after the order for 5 firm and 5 options was originally placed.
Oustanding orders page, I must say. 417 and it is only July 5.
NYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5861 posts, RR: 46
Reply 11, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3935 times:
Interesting...assuming that CO firms their remaining 5 orders and that VN get's their 4 booked after US EXIM financing approvals, that leaves the following to be firmed for 787 sales:
AI - 20
Primaris - 20
Air China - 15
China Eastern - 15
China Southern - 10
Hainan - 8
Shanghai - 9
Xiamen - 3
Primaris who knows when that'll happen, AI is winding it's way through the upteen govt. boards, agencies and beauracracies, that leave the Chinese order for 60. Does anyone know when that approval and final firm order will be signed?
Irev210 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3517 times:
My question is-
What is the total production capacity of all manufacturing lines per month for Boeing and airbus.
How many 717, 737, 747, 767's can be produced in a month and what is the output for each type.
and same for airbus
I guess my question is- are they more limited by production rather than sales? Outside of dying breeds like the 717, it seems like they are always backlogged by quite some time. How many airlines are turned off by the fact that they have to wait 3 years to see an airplane they order? I would think that Boeing and Airbus would lead off narrowbodies by 2-6 months tops. When you are selling as many narrowbodies, I could see it as a HUGE advantage offering airlines a 2-6 month wait period.
Udo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3468 times:
Quoting NYC777 (Reply 8): You most certainly are on crack. If you don't have anything useful to say then don't post anything. Judging from you profile you certainly don't have anything useful to add to any discussion.
Interesting how you judge people by looking at their profile - I'm wondering how your profile is any different...?
Btw, his question was justified. How do you know things will pick up for CO in 3-4 years?
Have you thought of it the other way round? It was reported in the Seattle P.I. that QR had "ordered" 10 787s for 2008 delivery prior to Le Bourget. Obviously these were refundable deposits as QR went with the A350 and 777 Series.
Perhaps CO got offered 5 of these delivery slots that QR no longer required and decided to take them? Assuming the Seattle P.I. report was correct.