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Comparing Regional Aircraft, On The Inside.  
User currently offlineFlyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1880 posts, RR: 3
Posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4392 times:

I was interested in some things about regional airline and internal demensions. Does anyone have them, or know where to get cabin demensions for Dash's, RJ's, EMB's, ERJ's...etc??? Im just interested in comparing them! thanks for any info guys...Also, to add to this topic, feel free to give some comparisons of personal experiences on differen't types of Regional aircraft! thanks
bri-EUG

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User currently offlineJdaniel001 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4364 times:

Go to the manufactuers' websites. They should list it there.

User currently offlineFlyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1880 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4346 times:

thats so true, but I love it when people just tell me! love u guys! lol

User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12150 posts, RR: 49
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4322 times:

I avoid the CRJ's like the plague! Give me a ERJ any day of the week. The 2 x 2 seating on the CRJ makes the cabin that much more close together and gives a real crowded feeling.


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User currently offlineGLA MD11 From France, joined Mar 2000, 277 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4325 times:

ERJs are 2+1 aside so if I travel alone, I love the sole seat on the left-hand side.

CRJs and the Fokker 50 are 2+2 so you get less claustrophobic.

Both CRJs and ERJs are amazingly powerful on take-off.

Can't remember for the Saab though... Short memory!

I love those planes cuz you get personnalized service. I also enjoy boarding from the ground instead of those ugly jetways.

I still need to try the BAe 146...


User currently offline1MillionFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4301 times:

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 3):
I avoid the CRJ's like the plague! Give me a ERJ any day of the week. The 2 x 2 seating on the CRJ makes the cabin that much more close together and gives a real crowded feeling

The only good thing about the CRJ's is that they are MUCH more quiet than the ERJ's or E170. I avoid CRJ 200's like the plague also, but the 700 is a great airplane.

Embraers need to learn how to make an aircraft that will no leave you deaf, if it wasn't for my Bose ANC headsets I would never fly on an ERJ or E170


User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4208 times:

I had an excellent experience on a US DH8. I just love how fast the takeoff was. Also, whats interesting, is how fast the gear goes up and down. Startups are nice as well. ERJ's are awsome. I've flown on AA, CO, UA, and US's, and all had pleasent experiences. They can be loud, but quiet compared to the back of a NW D9S. I flew the CRJ once from PSP-SLC, and that was probably the most quiet aircraft i've been on. Not as comfterble as the ERJ, but pretty nice.

-Jeff M


User currently offlineFlyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1880 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4157 times:

so ERJs are louder eh???

User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4575 posts, RR: 41
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4110 times:

Saabs are laid out 1-2. Obviously, they can be fairly noisy near the prop line (where I have always managed to be allocated a seat...), but other than that, they are fairly nice to fly in.


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User currently offline1MillionFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4088 times:

Quoting Flyboy80 (Reply 7):
so ERJs are louder eh???

noticeably


I have flown about 100 segments on a CRJ and 50 on an ERJ and the ERJ is much noiser.


User currently offlineFlyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1880 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4035 times:

well i have my first experience on a SF340 and ERJ on the 14th this month!!!!

User currently offlineBroncoguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4009 times:

I have only been on one ERJ flight and I remember commenting on how quiet it was compared to the CRJ, but that was probably a year ago so maybe that was only that one plane.


BTW, this is my first post on A*net  bigthumbsup 


User currently offlineFlyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1880 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3884 times:

A lot of the sound depends where you sit..etc on an aircraft, some aircraft have a "differen't" sound to them, which may be more noticiable, provoking the assumption that they are louder...I guess I will have to be a judge to that when I go on my trip right guys? this is comming from a boy who doesn't think the EMB is loud!! lol

User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3861 times:

Quoting Flyboy80 (Reply 12):
A lot of the sound depends where you sit..etc on an aircraft, some aircraft have a "differen't" sound to them, which may be more noticiable, provoking the assumption that they are louder...I guess I will have to be a judge to that when I go on my trip right guys? this is comming from a boy who doesn't think the EMB is loud!! lol

It does, i've been in seat 1A on an ERJ, its very quiet, but i've also sat in the back near the engines, and it does get moderatly loud. However, the noise level in the back on an ERJ is nothing compared to sitting in the last row of a NW DC9.

-Jeff M


User currently offlineFlyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1880 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3760 times:

lol, ha, Yeah I can definitely see that. Im excited to fly the ERJ... In cabin dimensions, does anyone know how much less the cross section of a ERJ is compared to a CRJ?

User currently offlineAJRfromSYR From United States of America, joined May 2005, 454 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3696 times:

I love the ERJ. I think its a more attractive aircraft also compared to the CRJ. Although the CRJ700's is an improvement. I love MD80's also for their 2-3 layout compared to the 737/A320.


-AJR-
User currently offlineMD80Nut From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 979 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3667 times:

I've flown on both CRJ-100/200s and ERJ-145s and I like them both a lot. They are a little more cramped in my opinion the mainline jets like the A320, MD80 and 737, but not much more. Smoother and nicer ride than turboprops. I've flown turboprops and regional jets on the same routes and I think the jets are a bit quicker.

My only complaint is the height of the windows on the CRJs. I'm only 5 ft. 6 in and I have to hunch down to look out the window. The 145s have the window at just the right height.

I look forward to checking out the larger Canadairs and Embraers. The comments I've heard is that they are nicer then the 50 pax types.

Cheers, Ralph



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User currently offlineLando From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3667 times:

I like flying on Saab 340s, I had alot of fun on the last flight we were on. My first experience on a CRJ will be the 28th of this month. I cant wait. My cousin could be the PIC of our flight too. So it should be awesome.

User currently offline1MillionFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3657 times:

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 13):
It does, i've been in seat 1A on an ERJ, its very quiet

I sit in 1A on COEX quite a lot, while the engine noise very low, it is the wind noise that is probably a good 35% higher than the CRJ. Also, the ERJ galley coffee pot leaks a lot and so you get to smell stale cofee sometimes. (Several F/A's on ERJ's have confirmed this is an ongoing issue).


User currently offlineAJRfromSYR From United States of America, joined May 2005, 454 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3657 times:

1A in a ERJ is first class. Good leg room, quiet, no neighbor and you can chat up the F/A.


-AJR-
User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5569 posts, RR: 36
Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3650 times:

Quoting 1MillionFlyer (Reply 5):
The only good thing about the CRJ's is that they are MUCH more quiet than the ERJ's or E170.

I don't feel that the ERJs are louder. They also have basically the same modern engines.


User currently offlineAJRfromSYR From United States of America, joined May 2005, 454 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3648 times:

Quoting ZRH (Reply 20):
I don't feel that the ERJs are louder. They also have basically the same modern engines.



Quoting 1MillionFlyer (Reply 18):
I sit in 1A on COEX quite a lot, while the engine noise very low, it is the wind noise that is probably a good 35% higher than the CRJ.



-AJR-
User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3630 times:

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 3):
I avoid the CRJ's like the plague! Give me a ERJ any day of the week. The 2 x 2 seating on the CRJ makes the cabin that much more close together and gives a real crowded feeling.

Exactly my sentiments as well. I even try to do most of my flying on Co-Ex as opposed to DL Connection here out of ABE because of the ERJ vs CRJ.

Quoting GLA MD11 (Reply 4):
Both CRJs and ERJs are amazingly powerful on take-off.

WHAT?!??!? 50-seat CRJ's roll on take off like it's their job. I swear you could get a T7 up in less runway than a CRJ. The CRJ-700 though is a rocket ship. The ERJ's take a good bit of runway, but once they leave the ground seem to climb almost like a 757. CRJ's are dogs.


User currently offlineContnlEliteCMH From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1465 posts, RR: 44
Reply 23, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3613 times:

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 13):
It does, i've been in seat 1A on an ERJ, its very quiet, but i've also sat in the back near the engines, and it does get moderatly loud. However, the noise level in the back on an ERJ is nothing compared to sitting in the last row of a NW DC9.

I agree that the ERJ is a noisy airplane.

I disagree with your assessment of the noise on the ERJ in the first row. I've flown about 140 segments on the ERJ-145, and my observation is that the first three rows of that aircraft are considerably noisier than the next two because of wind noise around the door seals. On the ERJ-145, I have found the second row to be undesirable just for that reason.

My usual seat on that airplane is 5A. It's close enough to the front that you don't get much engine noise. It's far enough forward of the wing that you get no boundary layer noise. And it's far enough aft that you get away from the door noise.

Of course, my favorite seat is 12A, the exit row...



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User currently offlineCiaomc2002 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3589 times:

I flew in a Flybe Dash 8 Q400 and I was pleasantly surprised. Hardly any vibration, and I was right next to the propeller, 9D I think. Really quiet.

25 Legacy135 : There are two style of doors on the ERJ. The airstair door that folds down and a jetway door that swings out to open. We complained several times wit
26 AJRfromSYR : All the USAirways dash's I fly are loud and annoying, but what prop aren't. They just seem to be louder then most
27 Tornado82 : US (Piedmont) doesn't have the Q-400's, so they don't have the new noise-supression technology.
28 Drewwright : As a f/a on the ERJ series, I will wholeheartedly agree that it is loud. I would say it is on par with the CRJ. As in the CRJ, it is especially bad wh
29 Post contains links and images CRJIAD : I think the cockpit and cabin noise have something to do with Embraer using the same basic fuslage design on their Brasilia turbo-prop and the ERJ's.
30 DFORCE1 : The old Dash 8-100, 200, 300's are certainly nothing compared to the new Q series. They are amazing aircraft which are not only quieter, but vibrate l
31 10MID : From the FA's POV, someone in 1A is hell. They like to use that space for their stuff and can sit there instead of the jumpseat during cruise. And wh
32 Tornado82 : Heh... and I'm in 2 Co-Ex ERJ's tomorrow where I sit in seat 1A. Note to self: Don't "chat them up"
33 N1120A : Try it with Air Dolomiti. They have an amazing seat pitch and pretty F/As
34 Legacy135 : The windscreen used on the XR does help a little. One of the main "noise generators" remains the door area that is poorly isolated against noise. Fur
35 DFORCE1 : What are the ATR 42/72's like?
36 Jetter2 : I rode in a Dash-8 when I went skydiving. That was fun as heck! It climbed with 20 ppl in the back and it did 1000+fpm eaisly. -Jetter2
37 Post contains links and images Jamesontheroad : What a great opportunity for me to plug my first two trip reports for airliners.net both made in the last two weeks on regional turboprops BHD-ORK-BHD
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