Pzurita1 From Greenland, joined Sep 2002, 1419 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 12729 times:
I could see AA starting flight to TLC (as an alternative to MEX).
CO and Air Madrid have started flying there as well. Being AA the largest airline in Mexico-USA market, I do not see why they wouldn't be flying to this growing airport (at least 3 new airlines are starting operations there)
Ckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5877 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 12683 times:
I think AA has something in excess of 100 757s, not including the ex-TW planes which will be returned to lessors as leases expire.
I could see AA going the winglet route on the 757. The reason AA hasn't installed winglets on the 737-800s, besides cost, it that the wingspan increases from 112 feet to 117 feet. At some airports, that decrease the number of gates that can accept a 737 for parking.
On the other hand, a 757 has a wingspan of 124 feet, without winglets. So adding 5 or 6 feet for winglets doesn't create the parking problems as putting winglets on the 737s would.
AA was planning to start ORD-AMS service in the spring of 2002, but that plan was dropped after September 11th. AA was also looking to obtain route authority to Moscow from ORD. Could these be potential expansion routes?
AbirdA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 306 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 12671 times:
Quoting PRAirbus (Reply 2): I heard they would refurbish First Class for longhaul
In the AA in Boston thread a few days ago, the consensus seemed to be that the old domestic first seats would be replaced with something similar to the BA premium economy seat (for reference, see the premium economy seat on offer from Recaro). That seat offers more amenities and comfort that domestic first as we know it in the US, but less amenities and comfort than true international business class. It would be a good fit for the 757 refurbish.
I have to add that AA should seriously consider replacing the current economy seats in 757s that will be flying international. The seats, even when recovered in the current AA standard seat fabric are too old. Their padding is broken down; it would be a source of endless complaints on these longest of 757 flights. I'm not suggesting anything new, just replace them with the same seats found in MD-80s and 738s.
Quoting B742 (Reply 5): This would be excellent news! What aircraft would possibly return the route, 763, 762, 752? (Could a full loaded 752 make it from ORD-BHX-ORD?)
Boeing quotes the range of a standard 752 without winglets as 3,900nm. Great Circle Mapper shows ORD-BHX at 3365nm. It would seem that the 757 could make that flight with a full load, though I suppose both directions year around could be questionable. Obviously the 763 could handle it regardless, but AA is chronically short of them and you would not be likely to see them start that route.
I also wish to see AA at AMS, but would the NYC-AMS route be efficient, now KL, NW(codeshare), DL and CO are operating this route?! By-the-way, does anybody know why there are two CO flights from EWR-AMS per day (CO102 & CO70)?!
Jetter2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 12400 times:
I remember when I used to travel with dad, we would go to Moscow about every 3 weeks for 10 days at a time. We'd always ride an AAL 767, or a DC10 to FRA, then it would always be either Lufthansa or Aeroflot to Moscow. I think a Moscow route..even from just ORD would be a step in the right direction for AA.
: Of course AA wants to increase international routes, that is where the money is, international is much more interesting at the moment than domestic, n
: Would RDU-FRA work on a modified 757? *Modified meaning 3 class with first (4 seats across), business (5 seats across), and coach (6 rows across)? Wit
: From JFK: AMS BCN BHX DUS GLA LIS NCL Looking at the gigantic size of the new AA terminal at JFK yesterday, I couldn't help the thought that AA will e
: Dutchjet--while you make good points, don't underestimate the market presence of AA in the New York area. Even with CO having a hub at EWR, AA still c
: Never in there right mind would AA ever modify 757s to a three class configuration. And four across first on a 757? You can't put in a first-class pr
: If AA started flights from DFW to CCS, BOG and SCL we would be happy. Or flights from ORD to BOG and CCS. The 757s are perfect for this, even 738s on
: Indeed. Four across is more of an international Biz product. Long-haul international First would be three across.
: Commavia - thanks for your comment, I do realize the power of New York and AA has a good base in the NYC area (I grew up in NYC), but I think you real
: Once a day on a B738? CO does it from IAH daily, and it is a moneymaker. To free up a B777 for EWR-Asia service (PEK) especially, and to move EWR- Eu
: AA's approach at JFK has been rather odd, at one time, they had many more domestic connections on both mainline and Eagle, many of which have been dro
: I believe it. But flying AA to JFK and then continuing on JetBlue (or vice versa) or some other airline is never a bad idea. If AA is late and you mi
: I dont want to argue, but saying that AA has most important cities covered from JFK is an overstatement, where is Chicago (AA hub), Houston, Atlanta,
: So decreasing the number of seats to make the aircraft a bit lighter and adding winglets would not add enough range for RDU-FRA? THAT is my question.
: Wouldn't ORD or BOS make more sense to operate to BHX than JFK! NYC is already taken over by CO which has 2 daily EWR 752 flights! What about maybe u
: I could be wrong, but I don't think the number of daily RDU-FRA passengers is anywhere near 270-330. 762s are now solely on JFK-LAX/SFO, JFK-BDA, and
: I'd love to see re-start the TWA routes of JFK-TLV, JFK-CAI... but they need more 777s.
: Oh I see, thanks! What about the A300's, will they ever see European service again, I once flew JFK-LHR on an AA A300? That's a shame! I agree, AA ha
: Even with 777s, neither will probably see AA metal anytime soon. AA will won't be landing a plane anywhere in the Arab world that is big, shiny, and
: The only active 762s at AA are their newest (still quite old) ER frames, all of which are set up in a special domestic 3-class configuration inside (
: To Commavia: Question: What was the size of the original AA 762 fleet? The 762's that are in the desert, it is my understanding that those were the ex
: The reason for pulling was purely political, no? That route (JFK-TLV) was very very profitable. TWA was flying to Israel before Israel was even recog
: I believe it. But flying AA to JFK and then continuing on JetBlue (or vice versa) or some other airline is never a bad idea. If AA is late and you mis
: No. The A300s will never again ply the Atlantic. They are now being completely concentrated in Latin America, and from next February will serve only
: It's interesting to note how far both CO and EWR have come. Once small and inconsequenitial, they have become powerhouses rivalling JFK.
: I had no idea! I figured all the frames in service were still to the ER specification. Does a non-ER plane have a lower OEW weight in the case of a c
: AA's website still reflects them all as -223ERs, and I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure I remember that probably 3-6 months after 9/11, all the r