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False Advertising By Ryanair Again  
User currently offlineEZYAirbus From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2460 posts, RR: 52
Posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5733 times:

I just been browsing the Ryanair website (yes im very bored) and noticed the offer flights to Bratislava advertising it as Bratislava (Vienna), now for a minute I thought Vienna was in another country to Bratislava  confused 

Glenn


http://www.glenneldridgeaviation.com
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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5707 times:

Vienna to Bratislava (VIE to BTS) is only 30 miles.

By comparison, SFO-OAK = 11 miles, OAK-SJC = 29 miles, SFO-SJC = 30 miles, LAX-BUR = 18 miles, LAX-LGB = 17 miles, LAX-SNA = 36 miles, and LAX-ONT = 47 miles.

I don't know about "false" advertising, but the two metro areas are close enough that one could be considered an alternate airport for the other. I would also imagine BTS is a much less crowded airport, for which RyanAir is famous for flying to.



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User currently offlineEZYAirbus From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2460 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5689 times:

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 1):
Vienna to Bratislava (VIE to BTS) is only 30 miles.

They may only be 30 miles apart but they advertising an airport which is in another country why cant they just advertise it as Bratislava, instead of being the dumb ass retards that they are and advertise it as somewhere different??

Glenn



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User currently offlineLeonB1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5678 times:

SkyEurope do exactly the same and market Bratislava as Vienna.

User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5652 times:

An airport 30 miles from the actual destination city is actually rather good for Ryanair....there are many stations where the actual airport is much further away from the city center.

The question is, how do you get from BTS to the center of Vienna - is there frequent public transport or will the cab ride cost more the airline ticket on Ryanair.

Many passengers have been very unpleasantly surprised by the airports used by Ryanair.


User currently offlineEZYAirbus From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2460 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5630 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 4):
An airport 30 miles from the actual destination city is actually rather good for Ryanair....there are many stations where the actual airport is much further away from the city center.

Murcia(Alicante) Murcia is over 130km from Alicante, how can they get away with advertising airports like this?

Glenn



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User currently offlineJasepl From India, joined Jul 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 39
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5622 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 4):
The question is, how do you get from BTS to the center of Vienna

There are several public buses every day between the Bratislava and Vienna. There's also the Austrian Airlines bus, that takes you from VIE downtown Bratislava and back.

There are also many daily trains connecting the two cities.

Best of all though is the boat up and down the (not even remotely blue) Danube. Of course, if you have luggage, it can be a pain.


User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25169 posts, RR: 85
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5601 times:
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Quoting EZYAirbus (Reply 2):
the dumb ass retards that they are and advertise it as somewhere different??

Those same "dumb ass retards" run a very profitable airline.

And if passengers don't know that Bratislava is not actually Vienna, but close to it, then WTF are they doing flying there?

cheers

mariner



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User currently offline1MillionFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5599 times:

Munchen airport is in the middle of no where, maybe they should rename it "Half way to Nurenburg International"  Smile

same thing with CDG, ARN and DEN


User currently offlineIBERIA747 From Spain, joined Aug 2003, 1831 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5591 times:

Quoting EZYAirbus (Reply 5):
Murcia(Alicante) Murcia is over 130km from Alicante

I did a precise calculation of the distances between both cities, and yes, the distance between San Javier Airport (Murcia) and Alicante is about 130 km if you do the Alicante-Murcia-San Javier route. If you go directly from Alicante to San Javier (without passing by Murcia) the distance is 94 km...still a bit long though.

Same goes for Girona being advertised as Barcelona (101 km between both cities) and Santander, advertised as Bilbao (92 km).

At one point, the idea of flying with Ryanair to London went through my mind, but when I saw that from Madrid I had to go to Valladolid (VLL...over 200 km away) I completely forgot about it.



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User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 5557 times:

If Ryanair were a US carrier, we'd probably see these:

Chattanooga (Atlanta)
Laughlin/Bullhead City (Las Vegas)
MidAmerica (St. Louis)
Rockford (Chicago)
Victorville (Los Angeles)
Stockton (Bay Area/Sacramento)
Newburgh (New York City)
Trenton (Philadelphia/Newark)
Worchester (Boston)
Richmond (Washington D.C.)
Gainesville (Jacksonville)
Brunswick (Savannah)
Myrtle Beach (Charleston)
Daytona Beach (Orlando)
Sarasota (Tampa)
Colorado Springs (Denver)

Now some US carriers do label cities in a similar way. Hooters Air lists RFD as Rockford/Chicago and GYY as Gary/Chicago.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21515 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 5531 times:

I wish more carriers had more frequent direct flights to Sarasota (Tampa) at a lower fare. I have to usually fly to Tampa (Tampa) and have someone pick me up and drive an hour to get to Sarasota.

But quick: How close is NRT to downtown Tokyo? How close is SFO to downtown San Francisco? How close is KIX to downtown Osaka? DFW to Downtown Dallas? IAH to Downtown Houston? CVG to downtown Cincinnati?

30 miles seems reasonable in the grand scheme of things.



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13092 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 5455 times:

Still, they should say Brataslava, Slovinena (and note: "Only 50 KM from Viennia). WN (Southwest) uses Islip, Long Island airport, about 30 miles east of and for the NYC, but advertises it as Islip.

User currently offlineFloorrunner From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 259 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 5421 times:

When you think about it, many airports are not even in the city that they serve.

CVG is actually in another state. EWR often advertised as New York/Newark, is in NJ not NY. BDL serving Hartford is in Windsor Locks.

Bergamo Italy which is another airport for Milan and one which Ryanair flies into, I have heard is a lot closer to the city than Malpensa.


User currently offline1MillionFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 5392 times:

EWR is closer to parts of NYC than LGA and especially JFK  Smile

User currently offlineIrishjohn From Russia, joined Nov 2004, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5262 times:

LTBEWR

Bratislava is the capital of Slovakia and is not in Slovenia!! So I guess that makes your comment as accurate as Ryanair and Bratislava (Vienna)!!!!!

As Ryanair is now 20 years old I would imagine that everyone understands how it operates, how it sells itself and I suppose we all know what is on offer. in the end it's individual choice - for the most part! Unhappy with Ryanair? then don't use them!

For the record Bratislava is more than happy to be associated with Vienna - otherwise people might not know where it was!!!!!!!!!  Smile)))

Safe sailing
John


User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5239 times:

Quoting EZYAirbus (Thread starter):
offer flights to Bratislava advertising it as Bratislava (Vienna)

Sorry, as much as I dislike Ryanair, I just cannot see the false advertising in that...

If they had listed the airport as "Vienna (Bratislava)" - then it would be false advertising; this way, they're saying "We fly to Bratislava, but the airport is well situated for travelling to Vienna".

One thing that is false advertising is "Frankfurt (Hahn)" - because that makes it sound as if they were flying to Frankfurt with the airport also being usable for travelling to Hahn... while it's actually the other way around - the airport is Hahn, and with it's location about halfway between here and Cologne, they could just as well market it as "Hahn (Frankfurt/Cologne)"...

And, yes, I am aware that the official name of HHN is "Frankfurt Hahn", and added to the fact that the same company that manages the real airport here in town, FRAport, manages HHN as well, I guess it's not even fair to call Ryanair's use of "Frankfurt (Hahn)" false advertising...

Just to put the distances here into perspective to the Bratislava/Vienna thing... the distance from my house to HHN would be 120km if I used a car, by public transport (train to Frankfurt's main train station, bus to HHN) would take me about 2 hours...

Regards,
Frank



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User currently offlineAdamlaskiewicz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5223 times:

How about MMX? Malmö is a Swedish city but is just over the water from Copenhagen in Denmark and is linked by the famous Oresund bridge. Unusually Ryanair doesn't market this as Copenhagen (Malmö) but just as Malmö. Wizz Air however promotes this as Copenhagen showing the bus connection on their route map. So Bratislava Vienna is not a unique situation. I don't think there's really anything wrong with doing this as long as the airports are not hundreds of miles away from the destination city and there is adequate transport available.

User currently onlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5697 posts, RR: 18
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5136 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 4):
The question is, how do you get from BTS to the center of Vienna

http://www.eurolines.sk/cpz_uk/cpzdata_uk.asp?linka=102806&smer=2

http://www.blaguss.sk/ba_wien.php

letisko=airport

Also SkyEurope (with much better service than FR, but that's not that hard I guess) operates its SkyShuttle between BTS and downtown Vienna.

http://www.skyeurope.com (click on "Travel Info")


User currently offlineCoronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1597 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4964 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 10):
If Ryanair were a US carrier, we'd probably see these:

Chattanooga (Atlanta)
Laughlin/Bullhead City (Las Vegas)
MidAmerica (St. Louis)
Rockford (Chicago)
Victorville (Los Angeles)
Stockton (Bay Area/Sacramento)
Newburgh (New York City)
Trenton (Philadelphia/Newark)
Worchester (Boston)
Richmond (Washington D.C.)
Gainesville (Jacksonville)

Brunswick (Savannah)
Myrtle Beach (Charleston)
Daytona Beach (Orlando)
Sarasota (Tampa)
Colorado Springs (Denver)

And they would probably serve Tijuana and call it San Diego!  covereyes 



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User currently offlineMidway2AirTran From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 864 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4914 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 10):
Chattanooga (Atlanta)
Laughlin/Bullhead City (Las Vegas)
MidAmerica (St. Louis)
Rockford (Chicago)
Victorville (Los Angeles)
Stockton (Bay Area/Sacramento)
Newburgh (New York City)
Trenton (Philadelphia/Newark)

Anyone mentioned DEN (Denver), that airport is way out of town!!! Many US carriers do the same, AirTran's site even has a page dedicated to these. It might be good for passengers to look at a map sometimes if there is a problem. You get what you pay for, the savings may be worth it too.



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User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4877 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 10):
Stockton (Bay Area/Sacramento)

When Frontier flew to Stockton, it was listed as "Sacramento/Stockton" in the timetable.

Reno calls itself "Reno/Tahoe International", and the airlines refer to as same, even though South Lake Tahoe has a perfectly airport; 43 miles away.

Fresno calls itself "Fresno/Yosemite"; 121 miles away; Modesto and Merced are closer....

Don't forget PanAm Clipper Connection selling Portsmouth as "Boston".

peoplExpress sold Oakland as "San Francisco", many airlines have done the same with San Jose as well....Southwest currently calls the two cities "San Francisco Bay Area".

Eastern listed Melbourne as Orlando, 46 miles to the east, same with Titusville/Cocoa, 32 miles from the city "Walt Built".

Many airlines in addition have sold Ontario as "Los Angeles"

YIP is 25 miles from Downtown Detroit, but at one time was the area's airport.

Questionable practice, but not a new thing at all, has gone on for years.

Controversy has roots with Mayor LaGuardia landing at New York (Newark) and thowing a tantrum because "Newark is NOT New York"

Buyer beware.



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21515 posts, RR: 60
Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4849 times:

Quoting Midway2AirTran (Reply 20):
Anyone mentioned DEN (Denver), that airport is way out of town!!!

Yeah, I was thinking of DEN, ORD, etc., but figured I could stop my list of "falsely advertised" airports since the point had been made.  Wink

As for Bratislava, I know of it thanks to Steve Martin and Dan Akroyd. Two Wild and Crazy Guys who "cruise for many foxes in [their] tight slacks."



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21515 posts, RR: 60
Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4841 times:

Oh, and how about LGW. How many people from around the world land there and then have to ask: "okay, now what?"


Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineBHXFAOTIPYYC From Portugal, joined Jun 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4841 times:

A lot of people have complained about FR, including several to the UK Advertising Standards Authourity over the years. The point is Michael O'Leary loves it - he never sees any publicity as bad publicity.

I get a few Americans, Kiwis, Aussies etc over the course of the year coming in to me to buy a new ticket when they have long haul connections out of LHR, and have bought a "cheap" FR ticket out of STN, wrongly assuming LHR and STN are 5 minutes away. Turns out that it isn't all that much fun after a 20+ hr SYD LHR flight to cart luggage and themselves off to STN for their next flight STN FAO. In the return journey they than decide even if it costs more FAO LHR is the way to go. With carriers like FR, the point is to do your homework and find out WHERE you are actually going.

My new favourite is London Manston... Might as well call is Paris Manston as it's not that far from the Channel Tunnel!!



Breakfast in BHX, lunch in FAO, dinner in TIP, baggage in YYC.
25 KEno : Now that Slovakia is part of EU, I don't see much difference between Bratislava(Vienna) and say, Hamburg(Lubeck). We used to have in here in Malaysia
26 Andz : BSL is another one with a weird name, EuroAirport Basel-Mulhouse-Freiburg... the airport is an hour's drive from Freiburg and in a different country.
27 Beauing : Foxes with BIG American breasts--don't forget the breasts!
28 Post contains images TheSonntag : Guys, be happy that Ryanair does not make intercontinental flights. I can already see them advertising "Cologne, near Spain"
29 Djmatthews : What about Ryanair and easyJet flying to London Luton.... it's in Bedfordshire, not even the next county north of London. Same applies for Stansted in
30 Dutchjet : That is funny.
31 SW733 : Based on experience, it's just as easy to get from Bratislava to Vienna as it is to get between, say, Stansted/Luton/Gatwick and central London, so if
32 FrancoBlanco : I don´t want to participate too much in this "LCCs are good/LCCs are bad" war but I have to clear a few things up. Of course we all know how FR opera
33 Stirling : Since both of these airports market themselves as "London" airports...both carriers are calling them what the airports call themselves.
34 Wdleiser : Houston IAH is a good 30+ miles from Downtown Houston. That is quite a ways away if you ask me.
35 WorldXplorer : DEN may seem far because there nothing around it, but from Downtown Denver the drive is 25 miles. Per MapQuest: Total Est. Time: 34 minutes Total Est
36 RayPettit : Travelling by train from LGW (without a premium fare) you can be in central London in 33 minutes. Apart from the Heathrow Express (for which you pay
37 1MillionFlyer : Not on a Friday afternoon in traffic... more like 45 min - 50 min. I have been working in the Denver Tech Center/Englewood area even on the toll road
38 Srbmod : Just give it another 10 years or so and the sprawl will reach DEN......
39 SW733 : I really found the trip from Bratislava (both airport and city) to Vienna quite easy. Simple bus and/or train, and it takes just over an hour. The bo
40 ACDC8 : As long as I can get a ticket for 1 Euro, they can call the airports whatever the hell they want.
41 FrancoBlanco : SW733 - you are right, it is not that complicated. I just wanted to point out that the connections could be better; especially for the people living t
42 SparkingWave : This is actually smart marketing. Most people probably don't know that Bratislava is close to Vienna. They can land near Vienna, save money, and actu
43 Post contains links and images ExFATboy : But Fresno is the closest major airport. Modesto has a whopping 4 Brazilia flights a day to SFO. Merced's only scheduled service is to Las Vegas on S
44 ACDC8 : While we're at it, YVR is not in Vancouver, it's in Richmond.
45 Newkai : SkyEurope used to do this. They have these ridiculous posters in Vienna saying (Destination) €9. Below this it used to say "Ab Wien-Bratislava"
46 Newkai : Probably depends on what passport you whip out. In my vast collection of active passports, I have an Austrian one, and the last few times I came back
47 Post contains images Ikramerica : EWR - It's actually located in Newark, New Jersey, just as it says it is. Growing up in the nice part of Essex County, let me just say yech. They shou
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