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Santa Barbara Lease A Second B757  
User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1874 posts, RR: 6
Posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2811 times:

Santa Barbara Airlines of Venezuela has wet-lease a second Boeing 757-200 for flights to the USA.

This B757 is leased from Primaris Airlines (N740PA) - so Primaris has no plane for ther own flights.

The aircraft is in full Primaris colors but with Santa Barbara logo and titels.



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9779 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2788 times:

Thanks for information Viasa. I assume Santa Barbara Airlines is doing well on their flights to the U.S.? I have to say I don't like the combination of the Primaris livery and the tail logo from Santa Barbara Airlines. But anyway, it's good news for them I guess.

A388


User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2774 times:

That Primaris livery is pretty awful, thats why. I think the Santa Barbara stickers make it look a bit better.

So are they now using both 757s on the Miami flight?


User currently offlineRICARIZA From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2391 posts, RR: 26
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2761 times:

I don't know how they are doing (financially), but they have a lot of local marketing in Miami, and they are sponsoring events. I hope they are doing good, seems to be a nice airline.

How is the service by the way?



I miss ACES, I am proud of AVIANCA & I am loyal to AMERICAN
User currently offlineB757200 From Spain, joined Sep 2004, 184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2716 times:

Great news for Santa Barbara! Big grin.

Viasa, thanks for sharing the info and the pic. Do you know where it was taken?. I was expecting another 757 with PW engines rather than Rolls Royce engines for maintenance purposes.


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Quoting A388 (Reply 1):
I assume Santa Barbara Airlines is doing well on their flights to the U.S.?

I assume the same since they have a second frequency scheduled as of August 1st, according to their website.


User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 31
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2706 times:

Question: what concourse does Santa Barbara use in MIA?

Quoting A388 (Reply 1):
I assume Santa Barbara Airlines is doing well on their flights to the U.S.?

Very good from what I've heard. On Tuesday they launched a 50% off offer on flights to MIA. THe offer ends today. AA only reacted by dropping the base fare from USD 450 to USD 350, but still higher than Santa Barbara's USD 200 base fare. There's no restriction on travel dates. I couldn't miss the oportunity and bought myself a return ticket to travel to MIA on September.

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 2):
So are they now using both 757s on the Miami flight?

This comes as a surprise because they aren't increasing frecuencies significately. They are currently flying 12X weekly. 2X daily except for the saturday night MIA-CCS flight and the morning CCS-MIA flight on Sunday. I guess this must be for maintenance reasons. But now with two 757s they should at least increase frecuencies to 24X weekly. If they don't double their frecuencies, then I don't understand the purpose of this second 757.

Quoting RICARIZA (Reply 3):
How is the service by the way?

I will fly them to MIA on September, expect a trip report with many pics. Meanwhile I can only tell you about friends's experiences. One friend flew them to MIA on their first month of ops to MIA last year, he said both flights departed on time, on board service was great. His only bad remark was the legroom. Then I have another friend who flew Santa Barbara to TFN on their DC10s, she also spoke very good about it.


Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis


User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2694 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 5):

Very good from what I've heard. On Tuesday they launched a 50% off offer on flights to MIA. THe offer ends today. AA only reacted by dropping the base fare from USD 450 to USD 350, but still higher than Santa Barbara's USD 200 base fare. There's no restriction on travel dates. I couldn't miss the oportunity and bought myself a return ticket to travel to MIA on September.

If there are doing well on the route, why a 50% off promotion on already low fares?


User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 31
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2691 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 6):
If there are doing well on the route, why a 50% off promotion on already low fares?

They are celebrating their first year of operations to MIA. Check http://www.sbairlines.com

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis

[Edited 2005-07-09 17:41:06]

User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 31
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2652 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 6):
If there are doing well on the route, why a 50% off promotion on already low fares?

Forgot to mention... what low fares? USD 560 return on AA is cheap for a 2hr 50min flight? I don't think so. Santa Barbara was offering fares of USD 530 and Aeropostal USD 480. The cheapest you could get to South Florida was with AV CCS-BOG-FLL at USD 360 return.


User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2005 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2641 times:

Luis, don't you think they could use this aircraft for an additional destination in the US or as a replacement for the 727 to UIO-GYE ?
Unfortunately I't a bit difficult for me to find this out as I am still on this hot island.
If there is no news until Tuesday I will make some phonecalls...


User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 31
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2636 times:

Quoting Chiguire (Reply 9):
Luis, don't you think they could use this aircraft for an additional destination in the US or as a replacement for the 727 to UIO-GYE ?

Wetleasing a relatively new 757 from a US operator to fly CCS-UIO-GYE doesn't make sense to me. A new destination in the US? I'll put my money on a Maracaibo-Miami/FLL-Maracaibo service. The US Dept of Transportation granted them the authority to fly that route. Lets keep our fingers crossed. Maybe Mark has some info for us, if not then we'll wait until Tuesday for your info.

Cheers,
Luis


User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2005 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2625 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 10):
The US Dept of Transportation granted them the authority to fly that route.

Yes, now I remember...but this was already some time ago. Is it still valid ?
I mean, now that it is clear that Spirit will not apply for CCS-FLL it's no bad idea. But the 757 is quite large for that route.

I hope it's not only a temporary replacement because of maintanance on N720TW.


User currently offlineVenezuela747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1428 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2578 times:

I thought they'd order a B767 to replace their DC10 like they said a while ago


ROLL TIDE!!!
User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 31
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2571 times:

Quoting Venezuela747 (Reply 12):
I thought they'd order a B767 to replace their DC10 like they said a while ago

As Chiguire said in another thread. Santa Barbara is doing poorly in their European flights, so plans to renew their long-haul fleet have been discarded  Sad it's a shame.

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis


User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1874 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2568 times:

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Viasa, thanks for sharing the info and the pic. Do you know where it was taken?

You're welcome! The photo was taken yesterday at Miami.

Here is the pic in large: http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/viewphoto.main?LC=nav2&picid=2144


User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32731 posts, RR: 72
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2539 times:

Santa Barbara is planning on launching FLL-CCS and MIA-MAR, though nothing has been set in stone. They already have US DOT approval.


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User currently offlineKarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3104 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2489 times:

Don't laugh when I ask this question but I have to ask it.

(I'm surprised somebody else hasn't asked this question.)

In light of the name of the airline why don't they fly at least the 727 to (SBA) Santa Barbara, California

The longest runway is long enough for either the 72 or 75 -- 6049 ft.

I know what you're going to say--that not long enough even though I've seen B757s take off at DTW with 4000 ft easily. Chicago Midway's longest runway is 6522 ft.

OK I'm listening. No pies in the face please.


User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5219 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2478 times:

Sweeet!!! Wonderful paint....

Ahhh meet the SILVER ONE-GLOBAL-SKY-STAR-Alliance!!:


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And add Santa Barbara's hybrid!

Am I missing an airline here? Add it!

Ricardo APM

[Edited 2005-07-10 05:42:21]


Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5219 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2445 times:

Ah missed the most important one!! That makes 6 carriers!!


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User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1874 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2414 times:

Quote:
In light of the name of the airline why don't they fly at least the 727 to (SBA) Santa Barbara, California

Santa Barbara Airlines was born in Santa Barbara, Zulia (Venezuela).


User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 25
Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2402 times:

funny that you guy's forget to add AA to the list, wich is the biggest airline...


anyway, whats primiras going to fly now?


and when will the first 737 arrive?


User currently offlineLamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 21
Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

Anyone know if Santa Barbara would accept ZED tickets? I'll be trying to get from MIA to CCS in 2 weeks.  Cool


I wish that all skies were orange and blue!!
User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1874 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2403 times:

Im not sure if Primaris really sign an order or just plan to purchase the B737 and B787...

Thats what I found on the Boeing homepage.: http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2004/q4/nr_041021g.html

If there is an order, they would purchase the first Boeing 737-800 in 2005.


User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2005 posts, RR: 16
Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2300 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 10):
, if not then we'll wait until Tuesday for your info.

Well, all I could find out today is that nobody from S3 seems to know anything about new routes on an increase of frequencies on MIA-CCS.
They believe it's a temporary sublease for maintanance.
Very sad, but on the other hand logical.
Why should they have two operators to the US ? One plane (flight) "operated by Transmeridian", the other "operated by Primaris". In case of an increase of flights they would probably have taken a second Transmeridian.


User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 31
Reply 24, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2214 times:

Quoting Chiguire (Reply 23):

Well, all I could find out today is that nobody from S3 seems to know anything about new routes on an increase of frequencies on MIA-CCS.
They believe it's a temporary sublease for maintanance.
Very sad, but on the other hand logical.

Damn  Sad I was expecting MAR-MIA to be launched 10X weekly and CCS increased to 14X weekly.

Quoting Chiguire (Reply 23):
Why should they have two operators to the US ? One plane (flight) "operated by Transmeridian", the other "operated by Primaris". In case of an increase of flights they would probably have taken a second Transmeridian.

Exactly it makes sense to have only one operator for both planes but who knows, maybe Primaris's 757 is a very good deal better than what they pay for Transmeridian's.

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis


25 MAH4546 : In the future, don't be surprised to see them launch those routes in the future. When they applied with US DOT, they asked for permission to fly four
26 Srbmod : Since it's a wet lease, they don't have to worry about maintenance, as that will be the responsibility of Primaris (who will have maintenance staff o
27 Post contains images B757200 : Indeed, you're right. I had a confusion between a wet lease and a dry lease. My mistake .
28 Post contains links and images Luisde8cd : Finally! Pics of the new silver B757 in CCS. Enjoy! MyAviation.net photo: Photo © Orlando Suarez MyAviation.net photo: Photo © Orlando Suare
29 Vh320 : It's not official but I think the lease with Transmeridian might be ended. N720TW was seen in Sanford (Orlando,Fl) today flying a Transmeridian flight
30 MIAMIx707 : Very interesting... BTW Ricardo.. I once sent you an email on the MCO spotters group. never got a response though ? I had seen smoe pics of yours in
31 Luisde8cd : This makes sense. My assumption is that they signed a one-year wetlease contract with Transmeridian which just expired last week, they didn't renew i
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