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NZ To Keep 744 ZK-SUH  
User currently offlineNZ1 From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 2247 posts, RR: 25
Posted (9 years 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3979 times:
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Now that the board have approved this I can confirm that we will indeed keep our 8th 744 ZK-SUH. The 10 year lease was up in March next year, but has been extended for 5 years to take advantage of the new arrangements re access to the UK. The other option was to lease an additional 772, but cost wise it made more sense to keep SUH.

Also, ZK-SUH will DEFINITELY be receiving the upgraded cabin. I will keep you all posted as to a definite upgrade date.

NZ1

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User currently offlineNZAA From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3959 times:

That is great news for the company, do you know if a 777 will ever opperate on the Auckland-Rarotonga route?


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User currently offlineWunala From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 950 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3943 times:

Quoting NZAA (Reply 1):
do you know if a 777 will ever opperate on the Auckland-Rarotonga route

Could RAR handle a 777? I know I flew in a 767 and on take off we used all of the runway. Is the 777 different?


User currently offlineNZ1 From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 2247 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3943 times:
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I don't think you will see a 777 on the AKL-RAR route, no.

NZ1


User currently offlineJaseWGTN From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 823 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3943 times:

Yeah,

While it's not going to be scheduled, I'm sure the cooks could take a 777. I departed there before in a 747 of NZ's.


User currently offlineNZ747 From New Zealand, joined Dec 2004, 967 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3920 times:

Quoting NZ1 (Thread starter):
...to take advantage of the new arrangements re access to the UK.

Have the board made any decisions about what will be the second UK route? Can we expect any 777's to Brisbane or Nadi during December and January during their lay over in Auckland? Also, will the NZ20/21 route eventually be upgraded to the 777?
What is the main maintenance problem you guys have with SUH?


Cheers


User currently offlineNZ1 From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 2247 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3911 times:
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NZ747,

I can't elaborate any further on anything to do with the UK. I hope you understand where I am coming from. All I can say is, yes, decisions have been made, and no, I can't tell you anything....yet.

You can expect to see 777's in BNE, yes, NAN, not sure at this stage.

With reagrds to NZ20/21, not sure yet. Will update when I do know for sure.

ZK-SUH, doesn't seem to have any one problem. It just seems like that when something is going to go wrong or break, ZK-SUH is the one who suffers it. Jinxed for some reason.

NZ1


User currently offlineKiwi Dave From New Zealand, joined Aug 2000, 895 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3837 times:

Good news that SUH is remaining in the fleet.

Can CHC expect to see the 777s this summer?


User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4506 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3806 times:

8 744s, are there 3 RB211-powered models and 5 CF6s?


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User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4537 posts, RR: 41
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3784 times:

AirxLiban, that is correct:

-NBS, -NBT and -NBU are RR powered.
-NBV, -NBW, -SUH, -SUI and -SUJ are GE powered.

Also for your information:

-NBS, -NBT, -NBU and -NBV are all 747-419s owned by the airline.

-NBW, -SUH, -SUI and -SUJ are all leased from ILFC
-NBW is a 747-419, built for Air New Zealand.
-SUH is a 747-475, built for Canadian, but not taken up and flew originally with Varig.
-SUI is a 747-441, originally in service with Varig.
-SUJ is a 747-4F6, built for Philippine Airlines, but not taken up.

V/F

[Edited 2005-07-10 08:19:48]


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User currently offlineB744Heavy From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3697 times:

Quoting NZ747 (Reply 5):
Can we expect any 777's to Brisbane or Nadi

I cant see any NAN 777's scheduled in the Route allocations.
There will be some Promotional flying that will take place before the 10th October. Then it will fly the following to start with from the information I have at the moment.

1st 777 ZK-OKA will fly the following starting 10th Oct
NZ121/2 AKL-MEL-AKL Monday, Wednesday, Friday
NZ139/130 AKL-BNE-AKL daily, NZ131/132 Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday, Sunday.

2nd 777 ZK-OKB Starting 17th Oct
NZ101/2 AKL-SYD-AKL daily
NZ105/6 AKL-SYD-AKL daily

Long Haul 777 flying starts 30 Oct dedicated to SFO NZ8/7.

3rd 777 ZK-OKC Starting 1 Jan 06
Tasman Training flying 01-25 Jan 06
I understand SIN will become dedicated 777 route starting 25 Jan 06

767 retirements are scheduled for
ZK-NCH Jul 06
ZK-NCO Oct 06

And of course I have to mention all of this information is subject to change due the arrival of the T7's and 744 retrofit program and is a proposed plan.

777 will start AKL-NRT-AKL flying in Mar 06

Good news also on SUH

Cheers
B744Heavy


User currently offlinePilotdude09 From Australia, joined May 2005, 1777 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3650 times:

Just a bit off topic, can any one of you guys tell me what a/c are flying certain routes? on certain dates intl and dom?
Per-Akl: 10 aug (NZ176)
Akl-Chc: 11 Aug (NZ509)
Chc-Dud: 11 Aug (NZ5013)
Dud-Akl: 05 Sept (NZ632)
Akl-Per: 05 Sept (NZ175)
Chhers if ya can help



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User currently offlineNZ767 From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 1620 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3604 times:

Hi NZ1,

What are NZ's ETOPS restrictions on the AKLSFO route with the 777's? How many minutes to an alternate on one engine?


User currently offlineNZ1 From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 2247 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3604 times:
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Quoting NZ767 (Reply 12):
What are NZ's ETOPS restrictions on the AKLSFO route with the 777's? How many minutes to an alternate on one engine?

Offhand I couldn't tell you the exact details, but I believe the 777 has 207 min ETOPS clearance. Alternate airports are NAN, HNL and Johnson Atoll (soon to be closed I think)

NZ1


User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4537 posts, RR: 41
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3587 times:

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 13):
Johnson Atoll (soon to be closed I think)

I was under the impression a group of airlines who relied on it for making their trans-pacific routes ETOPSable were grouping together to keep that field open (unless I'm confusing islands here...)?

V/F



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User currently offlineNZ767 From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 1620 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3571 times:

Thanks NZ1,

Maybe they have decided to keep Johnston Island available as an alternate. That's the sort of decision that could well have influenced NZ into going with the 777.

Virginflyer, I think the was Midway Island as an alternate on US-Asia routes.


User currently offlineWestjet!Eh! From Canada, joined Jul 2001, 153 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3490 times:

I am surprised that NZ B777 has reduced seat pitch. The seat pitch is 32" instead of 34" in Economy class.

User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4537 posts, RR: 41
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3339 times:

Westjet!Eh! - yeah, on one hand it is a bit of a shame it doesn't have the same seat pitch as the 747. On the other hand, the 767s at the moment have 32" pitch, and since it is these aircraft that the 777s will be replacing, it isn't really a reduction at all...

V/F



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User currently offlineAerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7145 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3313 times:

The seats may have 2" less than the 744 but they are a fair bit wider than the new 34" 744 pitch... It's a good compromise..

User currently offlinePlaneSmart From New Zealand, joined Dec 2004, 871 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3283 times:

Quoting NZ1 (Thread starter):
The 10 year lease was up in March next year, but has been extended for 5 years to take advantage of the new arrangements re access to the UK.

And a too good to refuse price reflecting a sound client and current soft market for passenger 744's!


User currently offlineNZ1 From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 2247 posts, RR: 25
Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3169 times:
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Quoting PlaneSmart (Reply 19):
And a too good to refuse price reflecting a sound client and current soft market for passenger 744's!

Yes, that too  Smile

NZ1


User currently offlineSunriseValley From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 4853 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3055 times:

Quoting NZ1 (Thread starter):
has been extended for 5 years to take advantage of the new arrangements re access to the UK.

I am surprised that this statement did not prompt a considerable number of postings how NZ might use this extra capacity into the UK market. A separate question, is there a period within each 24-hours that LHR is not capacity constrained? Also is the constraint gate availability or is it takeoff/landing?


User currently offlineBrutie From New Zealand, joined Sep 2003, 112 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2985 times:

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 6):
I can't elaborate any further on anything to do with the UK. I hope you understand where I am coming from. All I can say is, yes, decisions have been made, and no, I can't tell you anything....yet

NZ1, is there at least a timeframe for any announcements?


User currently offlineNZ1 From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 2247 posts, RR: 25
Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2869 times:
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Brutie,

This is a really sensitive issue at the moment, and I wouldn't want to risk my job by even telling you of the timeframe. Sorry dude.

NZ1


User currently offlineBrutie From New Zealand, joined Sep 2003, 112 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2788 times:

NZ1,
No problem mate. I really appreciate all the info you do give us, and would hate to be responsible for landing you in it.


25 The777Man : Any idea if/when NZ will fly 777s scheduled Trans-Tasman instead of the 744s ? Thanks for the info on NZ 777s to NRT. The777Man
26 Aussieindc : NZ1 How many 744's are currently fitted out with the new cabin layout? I am due to head out of LAX-AKL on an agent special late August and am wonderin
27 777ER : Aussieindc Only one so far, there is a topic on it from last week when it was taken out of the hanger.
28 Aussieindc : Thanks Mate! I'll go and have a look for it. Cheers
29 Jafa39 : And the good news is...a jinxed plane is staying on?...explain please somebody! or am I missing something here?
30 Post contains links 777ER : Aussieindc ZK-SUI is the lucky first aircraft. http://www.airliners.net/discussions...general_aviation/read.main/2213249
31 Gasman : Wasn't ZK-NZP also thought of as "jinxed" by ground crew?
32 777ER : ZK-NZP was also the Antartartic crash.
33 NZ747 : Queue the X-Files theme tune...
34 NZ1 : Will take too long to explain. This aircraft is well known to crew and engineering for the gremlins it seems to constantly have. Don't beat yourself
35 Jafa39 : Worked Ok last time I flew it but I was just wondering, if it is a jinxed pig of an a/c, why anyone would go "Hooray, it's staying!" rather than "Oh
36 Zkojh : i think it was something to do with, money, it was cheaper holding onto this aircraft then leasing another tripple 7 out,
37 Jafa39 : Safety at any cost...yeah right!
38 NZ1 : Let me tell you right now. Air NZ DOES NOT cut ANY corners when it comes to safety of our aircraft. There are never any problems when we need parts f
39 Post contains images TG992 :
40 Jafa39 : Ok folks, calm down, just putting the weary travellers viewpoint, I always choose NZ where possible and have the greatest respect for them. I was a me
41 TG992 : Guys, when we say SUH is jinxed, we're talking from our own experiences and memories. I bet that when you look at all events, the so-called 'jinxed' a
42 777ER : TG992 Yip i remember, the media were blaming NZ and giving the idea that NZ is unsafe, when boeing praised the MX personal for their work, the media k
43 NZ1 : The r/h foreflap came off NBS, and the missing pylon wing access panel which fell into the carpark was off NBU. NZ1
44 777ER : Which aircraft had the part crash throu a warehouse while on apprach I think it was into AKL?
45 TG992 : 763 ZK-NCH i believe?
46 777ER : Thanks TG992 Regards
47 Jafa39 : Seeing the stats as you have presented them i am reassured but do be aware of how emotive language (jinxed) can be misunderstood by the uninitiated ,
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