Thegregster From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 100 posts, RR: 0 Posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3628 times:
Last week there was a incident at MAN where a Ramp agent took a GPU from a Aircraft (B734) while it was still connected, this caused over half a million pounds worth of damage to the plane and put it out of service for two days
The agent received a final warning for the incident which will stay on his record for 18 months, Bearing in mind he had no previous warnings or incidents on his record does everyone think this was a fair outcome.
GQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3242 times:
Just think about how much money the airline will save by keeping him. It costs a heckuva lot of money to train new people. Sure he made a mistake, but I will all most guarantee he'll never do it again. Odds are this guy punished himself far more then the airline ever could.
Demoose From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 1952 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3011 times:
Do you actually think this guy went out to deliberately cause damage?!!! When you get in the real world of work you will realise that no one is perfect, everyone makes mistakes. The important thing is to learn from them and not to just point the finger of blame at the individual. You never know, you might end up in a similar circumstance in you're life, and going around with an attitude like yours will do you no favours in life.
Bollocks. Accidents happen. You cannot sack someone because of a single mistake!
Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 6): If you own the airline, and an employee causes such damage, It is not only the money to repair the aircraft but it is also the loss of profit for the 2 days the a/c was out of service.
This guy could easily do it again and why should they give him the chance to do it again?
YOu have to look into why the accident occurred. If it was stupidity and a first offence, then the warning is fair. Had there been other 'incidents' then dismissal would likely have happened.
Second, if i did work do you honestly think i would cause half a million £ in damages?
And before you say i could if i had a job like his but i don't want to get a ramp Job and wouldn't take it even if it was the only thing going. (Not that it's a bad job)
You arrogant little sh*t.
Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 19): i'd get another job. Not a big deal. There are tonnes of jobs going for people with the sort of exams i have got.
People with all the exams in the world struggle to get jobs. It takes more than qualifications, it takes life experience, and above anything else, the right attitude. And you, you stupid little boy, will do well to remember that.
Debate is what you put on de hook when you want to catch de fish.
TwinCommander From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 195 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2781 times:
Quoting Copter808 (Reply 8): Sounds like a lot of damage for not unplugging a GPU, usually it just damages the plug receptacle and door.
The arcing could only be half of the damage.
Most electrical systems also have the battery tied into it. SO if he pulled the GPU and the crew didn't notice it, its possible to have drained the batteries down to needing a deep cycle to get them back to capacity. The entire recharge process can take a few days if the batteries REALLY require it.
Also, a good battery tech can cost some money.
: Mmm and you may well be getting interviewed by the likes of me. And its not exam results that impress me the most when I recruit someone.....
: Am I missing something? Has the exam structure in the UK changed? What exams do 13-15 year olds have? Don't you even have to be 16 to sit GCSE's? 7LB
: I work on the ramp for the Swissport at MAN, and they way we work it, is if you cause damage to equipment, or aircraft, you lose your driving permit f
: People learn from mistakes, you can't just go sacking someone if they cause one mistake. The airline industry is a very intense industry and if you go