COAMiG29 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 515 posts, RR: 2 Posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3120 times:
a few questions (or is it an interrogation?)
how much longer will they fly
where to
where from
can you book travel or are they only for military charter
will they be retired or given different routes if so where to and from
does anyone else fly the L-1011 inside the US or do i have to go fly some foreign airline?
thanks for answeres to any or all questions
--COAMiG29--
long live the L-1011
If Continental had a hub at DFW with nonstop flights I would always fly them, unfortunantely good things take time.
LN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1896 posts, RR: 15 Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3090 times:
You can fly them LAX-CUN. They operate on the weekends until the end of August.
Except for that - military charters only. They will not leave the fleet until the US pulls out of Iraq.
TriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4685 posts, RR: 47 Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2976 times:
Use the serach engine, there was just recently a very informative thread about ATA D-checking two of their L15's and what this might mean for the future of these magnificent aircraft. Also, the question of how to find a bookable TriStar flight was also covered there.
Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
AKelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2101 posts, RR: 6 Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2735 times:
Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 2): Use the serach engine, there was just recently a very informative thread about ATA D-checking two of their L15's and what this might mean for the future of these magnificent aircraft. Also, the question of how to find a bookable TriStar flight was also covered there.
C5onknees From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 153 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2509 times:
My dad is an F/O on the 1011 for ATA, and i dont believe its going anywhere anytime soon. ATA has'nt switched to 763's but they are still looking for them with no joy. They operate alot of AMC flights out of DFW, ATL, BWI to so on and so on, it's a beautiful airplane and i too hope it's around alot longer than projected.
COAMiG29 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 515 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2188 times:
how long is projected?
If Continental had a hub at DFW with nonstop flights I would always fly them, unfortunantely good things take time.
UnitedTristar From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1241 posts, RR: 4 Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2157 times:
Humm...I wonder if a new paint job comes with these checks? They sure would look sharp in ATA's current livery.
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4holer From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2846 posts, RR: 10 Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1911 times:
Quoting Supa7E7 (Reply 10): That old-livery ATA L-1011-300 is one of the baddest classics gracing the skies. Just goes to show, life ain't totally boring yet.
Typhaerion From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 619 posts, RR: 4 Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1783 times:
Quoting Wayfarer (Reply 8): That aircraft should have been in ATA's current livery - or maybe she is going to retire real soon?
No, N194TZ will be around for quite a while, and I think she looks superb in that old style livery. Nothing better than a little retro in our lives.
Until such time as we can find a replacement for them in the form of 763ERs or 787s (LOL, had to through that wild hope out there), or such time as which the maintenance of such has become prohibitive expensive for them. And that is going to take a lot because we are making a killing off of the Military Charter flights. Since we own them now outright, and are not leasing them, there is no monthly cost constraint other than operating costs. So until those plane start flying in the red, they will be around. However, the other contingency is more likely. If ATA can acquire the 2 763ERs that it is currently looking at and the 3 others that I have heard rumors about, I do not think we will see a D-Checked L1011, they will be retired instead. Five L1011s in the fleet currently (N161TZ, N162TZ, N163TZ, N164TZ, N194TZ), and Five potential 763ERs they are looking at. You do the math...
Hope that helped.
For some, the sky is the limit. For us, it is only the beginning... -- Jack Hunt
Kappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 18 Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1655 times:
I had the pleasure of flying one of those L-10's in 1995 AMS-JFK-PBM. Awesome!!! Although a ceiling panel did fall off during landing in PBM!!! But fantastic looking aircraft, sadly lacking in range.
Wjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 4557 posts, RR: 16 Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1507 times:
Quoting Typhaerion (Reply 13): If ATA can acquire the 2 763ERs that it is currently looking at and the 3 others that I have heard rumors about, I do not think we will see a D-Checked L1011, they will be retired instead
That's an interesting update, Shawn. As mentioned, there was a thread on here that said that 2 were going to be D-checked, because suitable 767s were not available. First, the story was that the work would be done at Marshall (which I guess is doing some A-checks at present?) Then, I later saw a post that said, no, the work would be done at JORAMCO. The ATA SEC filing said that June 30 was basically the drop-dead date for the decision on whether to go with the D-checks, so I had assumed that the decision had been made by now...
Sllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6 Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1437 times:
Quoting Wayfarer (Reply 8): I am surprised by looking at this photo (taken just few days ago - June 29, 2005 - plane still in old livery!):
Yep, so that plane at LAX recently (Monday?) -- noticed it because the nose cone is painted in the modern livery.
COAMiG29 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 515 posts, RR: 2 Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1228 times:
not sure but i hope so
If Continental had a hub at DFW with nonstop flights I would always fly them, unfortunantely good things take time.
Backfire103 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 105 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1191 times:
Quoting UnitedTristar (Reply 7): I wonder if a new paint job comes with these checks? They sure would look sharp in ATA's current livery.
Typhaerion From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 619 posts, RR: 4 Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1159 times:
Quoting Bennett123 (Reply 17): Are they still useing RB211-22B's on these birds.
Yes...
For some, the sky is the limit. For us, it is only the beginning... -- Jack Hunt
TymnBalewne From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 912 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1136 times:
A (long) story regarding one of my experiences on a TZ L-1011.
In 1987 I worked for TZ at JFK. One dark, early morning (around 4AM) the station manager asked me to go out to an L-1011 that was parked on a cargo ramp and let him know if all the servicing was done to it, (i.e. toilets serviced, water added to the tanks, etc.).
I drove in the company van to the aircraft. There she sat hooked up to a humming ground power unit, however there didn't seem to be any power to the aircraft. I radioed back to the office and asked what to do. He told me that there would be one lit button in the cockpit and by pressing that, the aircraft would light up and there'd be power.
I did as he said, and lo and behold...power! The lights pulsated for a few minutes and the...darkness again. I radioed back for intructions and the guy in the office said to just press the cockpit button again.
I did so, and the pulsating lights came on again. I waited a few minutes to see if they'd fail again, but the didn't.
I surveyed the cabin...it seemed clean. I flushed a toilet or two...bright, blue water swirled successfully. I took the elevator to the lower deck galley to check the potable water tanks.
I laid my radio down on a counter and went to look at the water gauges...then...complete darkness.
What to do? I can't find the radio! I raised the lower deck service door to see how far a jump it would be...too far and the tarmac was slick. Not an option.
I then figure...elevators in buildings have escape hatches in the ceiling...would a Lockheed be any different?
I put my 6'3" frame into the narrow elevator and raise my hands..and eureka! There's a panel that opens. Now the issue was...how do I climb up and out?
The elevator compartment has a shelf in it, but the shelf is about chest high...too high to simply step up on....and if I couldn't do it...I wondered how a petite flight attendant would be able to do it.
Anyway...I contort my body in all sort of manner, press my hands on the shelf and manage to lift myself up onto the shelf and pull up myself up through the escape hatch, wrenching my back a bit in the process.
I hop into the van and wiz back to the office and tell the tale of woe.
The station manager asks me if I ever noticed the little bar above the shelf that says, "Pull for Step?"
I replied with something like, "Yeah..I've wondered what that meant."
He looked at me as if I had an IQ-deficit and said something like, "Had you pulled it, you would've had a step in which to easily climb out of the elevator."
Oh.
I did enjoy the then-344 seat L-1011's...I got to ride in the cockpit on the first one that landed at PLS (Club Med charter)...before the airport took delivery of stairs that could reach the height of the widebody.
Wjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 4557 posts, RR: 16 Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1079 times:
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