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ATA'S L-1011s  
User currently offlineCOAMiG29 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 515 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3746 times:

a few questions (or is it an interrogation?)

how much longer will they fly
where to
where from
can you book travel or are they only for military charter
will they be retired or given different routes if so where to and from
does anyone else fly the L-1011 inside the US or do i have to go fly some foreign airline?

thanks for answeres to any or all questions

--COAMiG29--

long live the L-1011


If Continental had a hub at DFW with nonstop flights I would always fly them, unfortunantely good things take time.
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User currently offlineLN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1908 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3716 times:

You can fly them LAX-CUN. They operate on the weekends until the end of August.
Except for that - military charters only. They will not leave the fleet until the US pulls out of Iraq.  stirthepot 



- I am LN-MOW, and I approve this message.
User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4695 posts, RR: 42
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3602 times:

Use the serach engine, there was just recently a very informative thread about ATA D-checking two of their L15's and what this might mean for the future of these magnificent aircraft. Also, the question of how to find a bookable TriStar flight was also covered there.  Smile


Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineAKelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2193 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3361 times:

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 2):
Use the serach engine, there was just recently a very informative thread about ATA D-checking two of their L15's and what this might mean for the future of these magnificent aircraft. Also, the question of how to find a bookable TriStar flight was also covered there.

And here is that thread:

TZ To "D" Check 2 L-1011s


User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1882 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3319 times:

Did you know that ATA the L1011 swiched to Boeing 767-300?

User currently offlineC5onknees From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3135 times:

My dad is an F/O on the 1011 for ATA, and i dont believe its going anywhere anytime soon. ATA has'nt switched to 763's but they are still looking for them with no joy. They operate alot of AMC flights out of DFW, ATL, BWI to so on and so on, it's a beautiful airplane and i too hope it's around alot longer than projected.

User currently offlineCOAMiG29 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 515 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2814 times:

how long is projected?


If Continental had a hub at DFW with nonstop flights I would always fly them, unfortunantely good things take time.
User currently offlineUnitedTristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2783 times:

Humm...I wonder if a new paint job comes with these checks? They sure would look sharp in ATA's current livery.

-m

 airplane 


User currently offlineWayfarer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2758 times:

Quoting COAMiG29 (Thread starter):
long live the L-1011

I understand. They are just amazing.

Quoting UnitedTristar (Reply 7):
Humm...I wonder if a new paint job comes with these checks? They sure would look sharp in ATA's current livery.

I am surprised by looking at this photo (taken just few days ago - June 29, 2005 - plane still in old livery!):


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That aircraft should have been in ATA's current livery - or maybe she is going to retire real soon?

Yes, again, I agree- long live L1011s!


User currently offlineTheredbaron From Mexico, joined Mar 2005, 2226 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2671 times:

Maybe off topic but I am mexicancan I buy a trip from CUN-LAX and back?

thanks



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User currently offlineSupa7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2600 times:

That old-livery ATA L-1011-300 is one of the baddest classics gracing the skies. Just goes to show, life ain't totally boring yet.

User currently offline4holer From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 3025 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2537 times:

Quoting Supa7E7 (Reply 10):
That old-livery ATA L-1011-300 is one of the baddest classics gracing the skies. Just goes to show, life ain't totally boring yet.

Amen to that!!

Hmmmm.... Cancun......



Ghosts appear and fade away.....................
User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4695 posts, RR: 42
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2482 times:

What's an L1011-300?


Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineTyphaerion From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 619 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2409 times:
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Quoting Wayfarer (Reply 8):
That aircraft should have been in ATA's current livery - or maybe she is going to retire real soon?

No, N194TZ will be around for quite a while, and I think she looks superb in that old style livery. Nothing better than a little retro in our lives.

Quoting Supa7E7 (Reply 10):
That old-livery ATA L-1011-300



Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 12):
What's an L1011-300?

Correct again TriStar500, she is an L1011-100

Quoting COAMiG29 (Reply 6):
how long is projected?

Until such time as we can find a replacement for them in the form of 763ERs or 787s (LOL, had to through that wild hope out there), or such time as which the maintenance of such has become prohibitive expensive for them. And that is going to take a lot because we are making a killing off of the Military Charter flights. Since we own them now outright, and are not leasing them, there is no monthly cost constraint other than operating costs. So until those plane start flying in the red, they will be around. However, the other contingency is more likely. If ATA can acquire the 2 763ERs that it is currently looking at and the 3 others that I have heard rumors about, I do not think we will see a D-Checked L1011, they will be retired instead. Five L1011s in the fleet currently (N161TZ, N162TZ, N163TZ, N164TZ, N194TZ), and Five potential 763ERs they are looking at. You do the math...

Hope that helped.  Smile



For some, the sky is the limit. For us, it is only the beginning... -- Jack Hunt
User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2281 times:

I had the pleasure of flying one of those L-10's in 1995 AMS-JFK-PBM. Awesome!!! Although a ceiling panel did fall off during landing in PBM!!! But fantastic looking aircraft, sadly lacking in range.


L1011,733,734,73G,738,743,744,752,763,772,77W,DC855,DC863,DC930,DC950,MD11,MD88,306,319,320,321,343,346,ARJ85,CR7,E195
User currently offlineWjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5200 posts, RR: 22
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2133 times:

Quoting Typhaerion (Reply 13):
If ATA can acquire the 2 763ERs that it is currently looking at and the 3 others that I have heard rumors about, I do not think we will see a D-Checked L1011, they will be retired instead

That's an interesting update, Shawn. As mentioned, there was a thread on here that said that 2 were going to be D-checked, because suitable 767s were not available. First, the story was that the work would be done at Marshall (which I guess is doing some A-checks at present?) Then, I later saw a post that said, no, the work would be done at JORAMCO. The ATA SEC filing said that June 30 was basically the drop-dead date for the decision on whether to go with the D-checks, so I had assumed that the decision had been made by now...


User currently offlineSllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2063 times:

Quoting Wayfarer (Reply 8):
I am surprised by looking at this photo (taken just few days ago - June 29, 2005 - plane still in old livery!):

Yep, so that plane at LAX recently (Monday?) -- noticed it because the nose cone is painted in the modern livery.

Steve


User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7639 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1904 times:

Are they still useing RB211-22B's on these birds.

User currently offlineCOAMiG29 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 515 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1854 times:

not sure but i hope so


If Continental had a hub at DFW with nonstop flights I would always fly them, unfortunantely good things take time.
User currently offlineBackfire103 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1817 times:

Quoting UnitedTristar (Reply 7):
I wonder if a new paint job comes with these checks? They sure would look sharp in ATA's current livery.

Here ya go http://www.cardatabase.net/modifieda...earch/photo_search.php?id=00001000

To bad its not real. its cool lookin.


User currently offlineTyphaerion From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 619 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1785 times:
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Quoting Bennett123 (Reply 17):
Are they still useing RB211-22B's on these birds.

Yes...



For some, the sky is the limit. For us, it is only the beginning... -- Jack Hunt
User currently offlineTymnBalewne From Bermuda, joined Mar 2005, 951 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1762 times:

A (long) story regarding one of my experiences on a TZ L-1011.

In 1987 I worked for TZ at JFK. One dark, early morning (around 4AM) the station manager asked me to go out to an L-1011 that was parked on a cargo ramp and let him know if all the servicing was done to it, (i.e. toilets serviced, water added to the tanks, etc.).

I drove in the company van to the aircraft. There she sat hooked up to a humming ground power unit, however there didn't seem to be any power to the aircraft. I radioed back to the office and asked what to do. He told me that there would be one lit button in the cockpit and by pressing that, the aircraft would light up and there'd be power.

I did as he said, and lo and behold...power! The lights pulsated for a few minutes and the...darkness again. I radioed back for intructions and the guy in the office said to just press the cockpit button again.

I did so, and the pulsating lights came on again. I waited a few minutes to see if they'd fail again, but the didn't.

I surveyed the cabin...it seemed clean. I flushed a toilet or two...bright, blue water swirled successfully. I took the elevator to the lower deck galley to check the potable water tanks.

I laid my radio down on a counter and went to look at the water gauges...then...complete darkness.

What to do? I can't find the radio! I raised the lower deck service door to see how far a jump it would be...too far and the tarmac was slick. Not an option.

I then figure...elevators in buildings have escape hatches in the ceiling...would a Lockheed be any different?

I put my 6'3" frame into the narrow elevator and raise my hands..and eureka! There's a panel that opens. Now the issue was...how do I climb up and out?

The elevator compartment has a shelf in it, but the shelf is about chest high...too high to simply step up on....and if I couldn't do it...I wondered how a petite flight attendant would be able to do it.

Anyway...I contort my body in all sort of manner, press my hands on the shelf and manage to lift myself up onto the shelf and pull up myself up through the escape hatch, wrenching my back a bit in the process.

I hop into the van and wiz back to the office and tell the tale of woe.

The station manager asks me if I ever noticed the little bar above the shelf that says, "Pull for Step?"

I replied with something like, "Yeah..I've wondered what that meant."

He looked at me as if I had an IQ-deficit and said something like, "Had you pulled it, you would've had a step in which to easily climb out of the elevator."

Oh.

I did enjoy the then-344 seat L-1011's...I got to ride in the cockpit on the first one that landed at PLS (Club Med charter)...before the airport took delivery of stairs that could reach the height of the widebody.

C.



Dewmanair...begins with Dew
User currently offlineWjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5200 posts, RR: 22
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1705 times:

Great story.

--Bill


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