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User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2933 posts, RR: 6
Posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 2564 times:

CO will start LGA-AUA non-stop service on 12/10

http://biz.yahoo.com/bizj/050712/1132098.html?.v=1

Question: what limitations are there LGA to international destinations? I know there are flights to Canada and the Bahamas (and now Aruba), but are there customs at LGA or do passengers pre-clear at origin?

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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33038 posts, RR: 71
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 2553 times:

Quoting BigGSFO (Thread starter):
Question: what limitations are there LGA to international destinations? I know there are flights to Canada and the Bahamas (and now Aruba), but are there customs at LGA or do passengers pre-clear at origin?

LGA can have non-stops to destinations that pre-clear. LGA's international destinations - Aruba, Bermuda, Nassau, Freeport, Ottawa, Montreal, and Toronto - all pre-clear.

[Edited 2005-07-12 18:46:55]


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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17659 posts, RR: 46
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 2536 times:

On a related note Cancun is allegedly looking at preclearance.


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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 2535 times:

Also note that the flight operates on a Saturday when the perimeter rule is not in effect at LGA.

User currently offlinePadcrasher From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 2516 times:

Will this be CO's only non hub flight using mainline?

[Edited 2005-07-12 18:57:19]

User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2933 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 2516 times:

Thanks Dutchjet for the explanation.

User currently offlineLucianflyboy From St. Lucia, joined Jun 2005, 214 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 2507 times:

I see US already has Sat service from AUA to LGA. I wonder how their loads are. How long has that US flight been in operation?

 Confused


User currently offlinePadcrasher From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 2487 times:

I think CO may rethink the need for this what with the JB announcment today.

User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 44
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 2480 times:

I see US already has Sat service from AUA to LGA. I wonder how their loads are. How long has that US flight been in operation?

US is doing very well on LGA-AUA and has upgraded the flight from an A319 to an A320. The LGA-AUA flight began June 12, 2004.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33038 posts, RR: 71
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 2478 times:

Quoting Padcrasher (Reply 4):
Will this be CO's only non hub flight using mainline?

Outside of Continental Micronesia and PTY-UIO, yes.



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User currently offlineCOfaninBOS From United States of America, joined May 2004, 287 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2444 times:

You missed a few...

Sao Paulo- Rio
Seattle- Anchorage
Los Angeles- Honolulu


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33038 posts, RR: 71
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2425 times:

Quoting COfaninBOS (Reply 10):
You missed a few...

Sao Paulo- Rio
Seattle- Anchorage
Los Angeles- Honolulu

Duh! Thanks. I didn't include GRU-GIG since no local traffic rights, but SEA-ANC and LAX-HNL totally escaped me. Funny, too, because, historically, those two routes have been operated by all five of the major airlines, IIRC. Although NW, DL, and AA are no longer on SEA-ANC.



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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2417 times:

Quoting COfaninBOS (Reply 10):
You missed a few...

Sao Paulo- Rio
Seattle- Anchorage
Los Angeles- Honolulu

Good catch, but CO cannot carry local traffic between GRU and GIG.


User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2338 times:

Will they shuttle the a/c in from Newark? It would be really neat if they sold EWR-LGA tickets, an exodus of spotters would take advantage and CO could make a bit of CA$H


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User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6793 posts, RR: 32
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2331 times:

Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 13):
Will they shuttle the a/c in from Newark?

Nope. It will probably be an aircraft that came in the night before from IAH or CLE.


User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5192 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2317 times:

More than likely this 73G will originate from IAH or turn from AUA from EWR or IAH.


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User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6858 posts, RR: 34
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2318 times:

Quoting COfaninBOS (Reply 10):
You missed a few...

Sao Paulo- Rio
Seattle- Anchorage
Los Angeles- Honolulu

Non-tag flights anyhow...

Interesting decision on LGA-AUA. Must be very high yielding, or else the Aruba tourism bureau has helped juice the market for CO with some marketing guarantees. That's a possibility.


User currently offlineAKelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2193 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2319 times:

Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 13):
Will they shuttle the a/c in from Newark?

That's a remote possibility, but CO currenly flies 737s to LGA from both IAH and CLE. I don't know how loads are on the Sunday morning flights from LGA to IAH/CLE, but with some creative aircraft scheduling I'm sure they can do this without having to shuttle an aircraft from Newark.


User currently offlineGlobeTrekker From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 851 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2249 times:

And we (KLM) are going to represent the flight in AUA as we do with DL/Song and the other CO flights.

US have very good loads on the AUA flights and are satisfied. This did com as a surprise as we thought we would see an increase in the EWR-AUA and/or IAH-AUA service, but they came with LGA. I mean from EWR we get anything from a 737-700, 737-800, 757-200, 757-300, 767-200 and 767-300 depending on the season.

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As stated above, we do US pre-clearance, so that's not an issue.

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User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2045 times:

Rumor has it that Saturday CLE-AUA service may start next winter.


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21544 posts, RR: 59
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2035 times:

Rumor has it that CLE-everywhere flights will start soon, according to CLE people...


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User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2016 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 20):



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 20):
Rumor has it that CLE-everywhere flights will start soon, according to CLE people

Yep!...deal with it.



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2007 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 20):
Rumor has it that CLE-everywhere flights will start soon, according to CLE people...

Ah, but we wish. I've heard the AUA rumor off and on for a while as well. But as I said, some of us in CLE do have the common sense to realize that CO will always play third fiddle to New York and Houston.  Smile


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12119 posts, RR: 49
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1968 times:
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Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 22):
Ah, but we wish. I've heard the AUA rumor off and on for a while as well. But as I said, some of us in CLE do have the common sense to realize that CO will always play third fiddle to New York and Houston.

Being in CLE I have to agree and I think as much as I would like to see AUA from CLE as scheduled air, I only see it being offered as a charter flight with either Apple Vacations or Funjet Vacations seasonally.



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User currently offlineJoeman From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 764 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 1955 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 20):
Rumor has it that CLE-everywhere flights will start soon, according to CLE people...

In fact! The CO website is loaded with ACTUAL continuous expansion routes from EWK and IAH so I wish the "rumors" about CLE would end. Another fact is that on those rare occassions that something new actually begins in CLE, it often ends.

And I' a metro Clevelander.


25 CLE757 : What is EWK?..if your talking about Newark its EWR.
26 RAmerinianair : CO has had LGA on their international route map for quite some time now! It's great to see this service! I live on Long Island and EWR is a little far
27 MasseyBrown : My bet is the LGA-AUA flight is presold at some profitable level to a travel agency; and CAL is throwing the rest of the seats on the market for whate
28 Joeman : I HAVE been calling what is obviously Newark EWK, thanks for pointing that out.
29 Joeman : I don't mean to be down on CO, the EWR and IAH superhubs, or CLE. However, as Falcon84 has pointed out, CLE is ranked third in priority. And a distan
30 Squirrel83 : Its intersting this flight will only be on a saterday service but I guess if they keep EWR-AUA and IAH-AUA, The Saturday flight from LaGuardia to Arub
31 Joeman : OOPS! I guess you had to check out the Department of Transportation rather than the CO website thus far and dated today rather than yesterday when I
32 Billy : I can assure you that the AUA government has put money behind this service. Probably a revenue guarantee deal that provides CO with cash if the flight
33 MAH4546 : It can't operate anything more. Aruba is beyond the LGA perimeter. With the exception of flights to Denver, beyond perimter flights can only operate
34 Whiskeyhotel : Is HNL-NGO still operational? If so this would be their longest non-hub flight.
35 COSPN : yes thanks CO 904/905 767-400
36 STT757 : Yes it is so yes that would be their longest non-hub flight.
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