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ATA's Winter Schedule Changes  
User currently offlineATA767 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 419 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3914 times:

ATA is publishing our winter schedule Sunday, and sending more traffic back to Florida.

On October 15th we're adding
• A second MDW-RSW

On October 29th we're adding several flights including
• A new flight to MDW-MCO, twice a day
• A new flight to MDWMIA, twice a day
• A new flight to MDW-SRQ

On December 13th we're adding several flights
• A third MDW-MIA
• A third MDW-RSW
• A second MDW-SRQ
• A third MDW-SRQ on Saturdays
• A second MDWCUN on Saturdays

All of this is designed to take advantage of Florida's seasonality. We'll have 10 daily trips from Chicago to Florida for the winter. Overall Midway departures will increase from 48 per day to 54 per day. Some MDW business markets will drop one trip a day for the winter.

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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32731 posts, RR: 72
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3888 times:

Yahoo!

I travel between Miami and Chicago very often, since I split my living between downtown Miami and Hyde Park, and Midway was such an easy airport for me. Lately I have switched my flying to AA on MIA-ORD, and while I enjoy all the AAdvantage miles I've been earning, I perfer ATA for the simple convience of getting me non-stop between Miami and Midway.

I hope it is year-round.



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User currently offlineMikefad From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 120 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3847 times:

It seems as though ATA has lowered it's profile quite a bit. In Chicago at least. You don't see the print ads or hear the radio & TV ads as much this year.
ATA was (and is) the best for Chicagoans going to FL. I personally was going to either PIE or SRQ from MDW. I just wish their schedule was the same in summer. After all , 'the season' is when you DON"T want to be in Florida.


User currently offlineChiflyer82 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3832 times:

Quoting Mikefad (Reply 2):
It seems as though ATA has lowered it's profile quite a bit. In Chicago at least. You don't see the print ads or hear the radio & TV ads as much this year.

unfortunately that has to do with them stopping local advertising because they were going to transfer assets to FL. When that didn't happen they didn't have the money to tell the local market that they are still at MDW. They are working on that but it's still a very steep uphill battle. A lot of people in Chicago don't know ATA is still at MDW.


User currently offlineCMHSRQ From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 991 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3815 times:

Well this is suprising, I was sure they were going to drop SRQ like a bad habit. Instead they have 15 flights a week starting mid December. Fantastic. I also wish they stayed year round. Now if I can get JetBlue into SRQ and AirTran to fly non-stop to PHL and LGA. Hey Mike I would much rather be in SRQ "in season" then in CMH at the same time. Winters suck!


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User currently offlineStlgph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9337 posts, RR: 25
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3792 times:

this is interesting. i guess Southwest won't be doing Chicago Midway to Ft. Myers then?


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User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3474 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3783 times:

Quoting Stlgph (Reply 5):
this is interesting. i guess Southwest won't be doing Chicago Midway to Ft. Myers then?

The original post says on December 13 ATA will have 3 daily MDW-RSW flights.

Jeremy


User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9337 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3768 times:

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 6):
Quoting Stlgph (Reply 5):
this is interesting. i guess Southwest won't be doing Chicago Midway to Ft. Myers then?

The original post says on December 13 ATA will have 3 daily MDW-RSW flights.

yeah...and?



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32731 posts, RR: 72
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3759 times:

I wonder if the MIA flights will be WN codeshare flights. It wouldn't shock me. ATA will be the only LCC in South Florida that flies to MIA and not FLL, and I'm sure it has to do with Southwest.


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User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9337 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3730 times:

i'd agree that the SW codeshare would help with the Miami flights. then again i think ATA has flirted off on and on with Miami in the past, coming and going a couple of times. maybe with the code share, this time things will be solid.

it is great to see them add cities and routes again.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32731 posts, RR: 72
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3707 times:

Quoting STLGph (Reply 9):
i'd agree that the SW codeshare would help with the Miami flights. then again i think ATA has flirted off on and on with Miami in the past, coming and going a couple of times. maybe with the code share, this time things will be solid.

They served Miami in the mid-1990s, IIRC, for a short time. They back in November 2001, lasted through January 2005. They actually did really well in Miami, and carried nearly 40% of the daily O&D between Miami and Chicago, almost as much as AA. I was surprised they cut the flight back in January, but it probably had to do with the high costs of operating to MIA.



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User currently onlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4663 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3677 times:

interesting with the increases in MDW-RSW... I guess I need to re-think my predictions for WN @ RSW!


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User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9337 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3650 times:

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 11):
interesting with the increases in MDW-RSW... I guess I need to re-think my predictions for WN @ RSW!

agreed, as mentioned before.

i'm interested in seeing if they try anything new out of Indianapolis for this year or not.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32731 posts, RR: 72
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3641 times:

Fort Myers has always been a very strong performing station for ATA, so I think that probably has something to do with. Also, Fort Myers traffic is, in general, stronger yielding than TPA/MCO.


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User currently offlineATA767 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3614 times:

"wonder if the MIA flights will be WN codeshare flights. It wouldn't shock me. ATA will be the only LCC in South Florida that flies to MIA and not FLL, and I'm sure it has to do with Southwest."

Airtan also serves MIA. I think it is smart to add back MIA before JetBlue get there, with the code share with WN, this should actually do well. It is great to see ATA add more scheduled service.


User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6422 posts, RR: 17
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3610 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 13):
Also, Fort Myers traffic is, in general, stronger yielding than TPA/MCO.

Why?

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 10):
They served Miami in the mid-1990s, IIRC, for a short time.

They routed both FLL and MIA flights thru SRQ. Wild!

Quoting Chiflyer82 (Reply 3):
unfortunately that has to do with them stopping local advertising because they were going to transfer assets to FL. When that didn't happen they didn't have the money to tell the local market that they are still at MDW.

What about the funds they got from WN?



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32731 posts, RR: 72
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3603 times:

Quoting ATA767 (Reply 14):
Airtan also serves MIA. I think it is smart to add back MIA before JetBlue get there, with the code share with WN, this should actually do well. It is great to see ATA add more scheduled service.

airTran does serve MIA, but they have a bigger operation at FLL. ATA will be the only LCC serving MIA while not serving FLL.

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 15):
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 13):
Also, Fort Myers traffic is, in general, stronger yielding than TPA/MCO.

Why?

It is a more expensive place to vacation, and, in addition to families, caters to wealthier demographics with destinations like Marco Island and Sannibel Island. You also have less airlines than TPA/MCO and the high-yielding traffic from Naples.

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 15):

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 10):
They served Miami in the mid-1990s, IIRC, for a short time.

They routed both FLL and MIA flights thru SRQ. Wild!

Yup. They also flew MIA-PIE at one point.



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User currently offlineChiflyer82 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3584 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 15):
What about the funds they got from WN?

used for operating funds, which doesn't include the marketing department.


User currently offlineFedexexpress From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 284 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3515 times:

Do you think ATA will add some IND flights back to the route map??????


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User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4550 posts, RR: 18
Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3497 times:

Be happy TZ is still in IND. I don't know how much longer they will be in IND.


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User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3412 posts, RR: 17
Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3301 times:

I would not be surprised AT ALL to see MIA become WN codeshare. They need to find a way to tap the MIA codeshare to NE cities (maybe offer a MIA-BWI flight - that would be great!).

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32731 posts, RR: 72
Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3172 times:

It's bookable. Here is the MIA sched. All the MIA flights will be 738s  Smile. Hopefully that means $35 upgrades to business. The MCO flights will also be 738s. At RSW, the two new flights will be 733s. At SRQ, one 738 and one 733. I also noticed the 733s going onto BOS-MDW.

TZ 4822 MDW 0640-1032 MIA 73H Daily (eff. 29Oct05)
TZ 4824 MDW 1110-1509 MIA 73H Daily (eff. 29Oct05)
TZ 4828 MDW 1430-1831 MIA 73H Daily (eff. 13Dec05)

TZ 4821 MIA 1126-1333 MDW 73H Daily (eff. 29Oct05)
TZ 4827 MIA 1601-1813 MDW 73H Daily (eff. 29Oct05)
TZ 4825 MIA 1930-2158 MDW 73H Daily (eff. 13Dec05)

I'm very happy about the MIA schedule. I'll become a very frequent flyer on TZ 4828 and TZ 4827!



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User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22911 posts, RR: 20
Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3090 times:

How many daily flights was TZ running MDW-MIA in 2003 and 2004? I feel like it was around 4 738s, but that might be wrong. I'm sure Mark knows...


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32731 posts, RR: 72
Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3074 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 22):
How many daily flights was TZ running MDW-MIA in 2003 and 2004? I feel like it was around 4 738s, but that might be wrong. I'm sure Mark knows...

It was only 2x daily.



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User currently offlineATA767 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3000 times:

ATA had 2 MDW-MIA and 1 MDW-IND-MIA flight in Dec 2003. They have gone between 2 and 3 flights over the years. It seems like they may have to add more if it has the SWA code share to feed them. SWA adds ~30% to the ATA passenger load currently. Who knows, maybe they will add the MIA-SJU-MIA flight again.

25 MAH4546 : In terms of non-stops, it was never more than 2x daily MIA-MDW. It was launched with 2x daily MDW-MIA-SJU in November 2001. The SJU flights ended, II
26 LV : Why do you say that? What makes you think they will pull completely out of IND? I think it will remain a small number of flights but TZ will remain i
27 Indy : I say that because they have cut down to 4 flights daily and they are trying to sell off the travel club. Also when you go to their ticket counter it
28 ATA767 : "I think if the codeshare is really successfuly, there is a long-shot chance of seeing MIA-PHX to connect with WN flights out west and the Hawai'i fli
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