Davied From South Africa, joined Oct 2004, 24 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2165 times:
Hey Everyone
Does anyone have any idea what passenger loads
have been like on the new JNB-IAD-JNB route since it
started at the beginning of this month? How long
does the flight take?
Thanks
Aussieindc From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 437 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2037 times:
Quoting SA7700 (Reply 1): There is a one hour fuel stop in both directions, as well as pax boarding and disembarking on the JNB-ACC-JNB sectors.
Is that to say that SAA do not uplift pax in ACC en-route to IAD? I would have thought that they would need to to make the venture viable?
SA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 2916 posts, RR: 20 Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1984 times:
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Quoting Aussieindc (Reply 2): Is that to say that SAA do not uplift pax in ACC en-route to IAD? I would have thought that they would need to to make the venture viable?
Currently SAA does not have rights to uplift pax in ACC to carry them to IAD and vice versa - however, that does not mean that the loads will necessarily be low.
Rgds
SA7700
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AA54Heavy From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 189 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1831 times:
Is this flight the only service that SAA offers between JNB and ACC? If it is, it seems like quite a guessing game as to how many seats to sell to ACC, and how many to IAD, and also thus any seats sold to ACC, will be empty to IAD.......are the fares for the JNB-IAD route any significantly higher than those to ATL or JFK, where there really is not much traffic going to/from Dakar or Sal?
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31107 posts, RR: 74 Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1828 times:
Quoting AA54Heavy (Reply 4): are the fares for the JNB-IAD route any significantly higher than those to ATL or JFK, where there really is not much traffic going to/from Dakar or Sal?
SAA carrier significant local traffic on JFK-DKR. That's the reason they fly it. The flight could be flown non-stop with 744s as in the past.
SA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 2916 posts, RR: 20 Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1748 times:
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Quoting AA54Heavy (Reply 4): Is this flight the only service that SAA offers between JNB and ACC? If it is, it seems like quite a guessing game as to how many seats to sell to ACC, and how many to IAD, and also thus any seats sold to ACC, will be empty to IAD.......are the fares for the JNB-IAD route any significantly higher than those to ATL or JFK, where there really is not much traffic going to/from Dakar or Sal?
Affirmative, the 4x weekly service to and from IAD via ACC, is the only SA service between JNB-ACC-JNB. SAA make use of price discrimination and have dedicated flight controllers that closely monitors the loads on the flights - thus giving them the power to "block" and "dump" seats on the open market on a daily basis.
As MAH4546 stated, SA carry a significant number of pax between DKR-JFK-DKR - I have witnessed this myself.
Rgds
SA7700
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Aussieindc From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 437 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1607 times:
obviously the demand is there for it or they would not have invested so much into the operation of the flight.
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