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Is There A Worse Airport Than DFW?  
User currently offlineBobbydgg From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 99 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 7371 times:

I am moving to Dallas in the fall and flew through DFW earlier this week. It is dirty, difficult to navigate, ugly, and crowded. When are they going to build a new one - or allow Southwest to fly more than one state away?

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User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 977 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7359 times:

>> I am moving to Dallas in the fall and flew through DFW earlier this week. It is dirty, difficult to navigate, ugly, and crowded.

What Terminal/airline? DFW is an incredibly easy airport to navigate once you get use to it.. curb to gate distance couldn't be shorter, connections are a breeze thanks to Skylink, and the airport for the most part is very modern.

>> When are they going to build a new one - or allow Southwest to fly more than one state away?

Try never, it has enough capacity to last decades and decades.


User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7328 times:

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 1):
DFW is an incredibly easy airport to navigate once you get use to it

Thats true with any large airport. But to many fliers they all seem to be intimidated the first time.

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 1):
curb to gate distance couldn't be shorter

MCI is probably a few steps shorter.



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User currently offlineSonOfACaptain From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1747 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7307 times:

Quoting DeltaMIA (Reply 2):
Thats true with any large airport. But to many fliers they all seem to be intimidated the first time.

I myself think that DFW is easy to navigate even if you are new. Many people need to try and connect at DFW now that the train is running. It is a 100 times better.

Quoting DeltaMIA (Reply 2):
MCI is probably a few steps shorter.

Getting picky eh.  wink 

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User currently offlineSampa737 From Brazil, joined May 2005, 637 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7295 times:

My son and I flew into DFW from GRU on the way to MEM this week. It was my first time in DFW. I found it easy to get around and appreciated the train being above ground. Though I prefer Delta and ATL, AA and DFW. I thought the design was unusual but fun to explore.

User currently offlineSampa737 From Brazil, joined May 2005, 637 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7281 times:

Oops! I meant to say, "Though I prefer Delta and ATL, AA and DFW was easy.

User currently offlineVenezuela747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1428 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7234 times:

I like DFW...the desing is so simple , I mean how easy is a half circle....... no complicated terminals located everywhere each with a different shape
If you fly AA it makes it so easy travel around the terminal using the TrAAin....I just went to PHX and the amount of walking was too much.

The maps are everywhere really, and how hard can it be to navigate when all the number go in sequence once you reach your terminal.

Crowded........we'll any major hub is going to be crowded sometimes.......wanna talk crowded try transfering from A-B at LAS at night with the remodeling goin on.....hofully someone can back me up on this



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User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7217 times:

DFW isn't fun for a couple reasons:

1) It's a pain to transfer between terminals. Nearly every time I have to transfer there I have to go from terminal B to terminal E and have twenty minutes to do so.

2) It's a boring place to watch airplanes.  Wink


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User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4058 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7198 times:

The worst I've been through is RDU. Different terminals for different airlines making short connections unmanageable, security is in makeshift locations and getting to your gate means navigating a virtual maze of hallways and escalators.

User currently offlineSPREE34 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 2248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7140 times:

I flew through on AA and agree, it was a filthy place. However, the terminal America West serves to connect with British Airways was very clean. I wonder why the difference.


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User currently offlineTUNisia From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1844 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7098 times:

The car rental terminal is beautiful (for a car rental terminal)! Also, the TrAAin needs some work, it's one hell of a ride.


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User currently offlineTexdravid From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7093 times:

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 7):
2) It's a boring place to watch airplanes.

This is the only true and valid complaint of DFW. All other complaints listed above do not hold water, IMHO. DFW is way cleaner than most, and because of its spread-out nature, I don't find it that crowded. If you live in the DFW area, it is so easy to board and then coming back, pick your bags and leave.

The complaint that DFW is a boring place to planespot is obviously true. It has legions of MD-80's and 757's with a pitiful register of foreign metal. If you want foreign metal/tails, go to IAH between 2pm-8pm, and especially on the weekends.



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User currently offlineJasepl From India, joined Jul 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 39
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7084 times:

I used to think Heathrow was the worst airport in the world. Then I discovered Dallas! I really don't think there can be a worse hub than DFW since I've had the pleasure last year. It's nothing short of a horror.

User currently offlineTexdravid From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7072 times:

The reason that most foreign travelers have a negative view of DFW is that most of you fly BA or LH and land in the awful Terminal B which is old and lackluster.

Once flights start landing at the new Terminal D, I think more foreign travelers will have a more positive outlook on DFW.

Once again, if you also want to see foreign metal or expect a huge INTERNATIONAL airport, then of course you will be disappointed.



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User currently offlineFRAspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2352 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7071 times:

Personally I love DFW, it's LHR that I have heard of that is not very nice to fly through. I also love FRA which I have heard plenty of people talk trash about as well.


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User currently offlineBartond From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 790 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7056 times:

I'd agree - it's not the most scenic of airports but the new international terminal should be a nice, pretty place for those of you who look for than in an airport. I've never connected through DFW but the TrAAin should help things out a lot. No offense to whomever wrote about the 20 minute connection thing, but you might want to give yourself more than 20 minutes to connect no matter what airport you're at. 20 minutes wouldn't be enough if you're connecting 5 gates away in the same terminal.

DFW ain't the best place to spot and ain't the most scenic, but it's one of the more user-friendly airports I've ever been to. I've never waited more than about 15-20 minutes in security lines or anything else there.

By the way, it was so nice to land at DFW today and see a KE 744 pax and a KE 744 cargo there at the same time. Not a big deal if you're in LAX or some other mega international gateway but a pretty nice sight for DFW.


User currently offlineTexdravid From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7044 times:

Quoting Bartond (Reply 15):
By the way, it was so nice to land at DFW today and see a KE 744 pax and a KE 744 cargo there at the same time. Not a big deal if you're in LAX or some other mega international gateway but a pretty nice sight for DFW.

Dude, even you have to admit that this situation is as rare as a total solar eclipse.



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User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7038 times:

Don't be surprised if you see a mouse under your feet at Concourse A in MIA. I personally consider MIA worst than DFW.

User currently offlineFLAIRPORT From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7031 times:

my dad was stuck on the ground for over an hour tonight...31 planes, none moving...no food (as promised on aa.com)...damn AA and damn DFW! He was supposed to be in at 11:30pm...more like 1:33am with arrival at home well after 2am and work tomorrow!

User currently offlineBartond From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 790 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7017 times:

FLAIR - that would be due to storms that ran through the DFW area tonight. Not really AA or the airport's fault, I wouldn't think, but maybe you know something I don't.

User currently offlineFleet Service From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 623 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7004 times:

You think DFW is bad? Been through PHL lately?


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User currently offlineBH346 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3265 posts, RR: 14
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6969 times:

I didn't think DFW was that bad. Terminal C looked a bit run down there but I thought Concourse B was nice, especially the American Eagle area which is a great facility for a regional jet hub with jetways and ample seating. The new International Terminal looks to be an impressive facility. The thing I didn't like about DFW when I was there was the TrAAin but with the Skylink up that's not a problem anymore.


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User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6960 times:

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 1):
connections are a breeze thanks to Skylink

I haven't been thru DFW since Skylink opened. I sure hope it works better then old shuttle system. I swear that thing ran thru Mexico and back before it got you to your terminal. But for all that, I think DFW has some kinda charisma to it, kinda like ATL (at least for me). Must be the funky terminals. I still say ORD is the worst airport/hub for domestic USA.

fluffy


User currently offlineGOAQ From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 32 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 6887 times:

F I L T H Y???????

The bathrooms maybe.....Like any other airport. You sure you went thru DFW? I personally didn't like going through DFW myself but now with the new train system, it's 100 times better than before. I actually took some time the other day while between flights and took it round trip from terminal C. Fast and effecient. But filthy....Hmmmmm. Were the airport cleaners on strike the day you went thru it?

Far beyone the cry of being FILTHY!!!!


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 59
Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 6864 times:

Plus DFW has Dickey's BBQ! Come on, this is great stuff. If you haven't tried it, you must go hungry and get the sampler plate.

Anyway, DFW can be tough for connections, so as long as you don't schedule a 20 minute connection, it shouldn't be a problem.



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25 AirbusfanYYZ : DFW's got tons of issues... the biggest and the most infuriating for travellers like myself is the car rental arrangements. What a horrible setup! If
26 Jdaniel001 : No more than anywhere else. I am sick and tired of people busting on DFW. It's very sacred ground people. BI and TI were 2 carriers that no longer fl
27 Post contains images GQfluffy : Speak for yourself. If you've got that much time invested in picking out the best places to eat in all the major US hubs... fluffy
28 PSU.DTW.SCE : I'm not sure why everyone is ripping on DFW so much. I used to not like it, but my opinion has drastically changed now that the new train is open, the
29 CM767 : Agree !!!! Worst I have been to, has to be MIA. Crowded and chaotic, I believe that even PTY is better
30 Post contains images ExFATboy : I hope this was meant to be tongue-in-cheek..."sacred ground"? There's nothing "sacred" about airlines going out of business because of bad managemen
31 Post contains images Nosedive : Ahh the other DFW debate There's that other city that starts with "D" And DFW doesn't like the once a yr ice storm And I care why? These two together
32 Nonrevman : The only real beef I have with DFW is that it is the only airport I know of where you have to pay just to drop off or pick up someone. Silly me though
33 ERJ170 : MIA and DFW are the worst to connect in. For DFW.. it is the gospel that you have to go from one one concourse to another.. and the 2 gates you want a
34 Boeing7E7 : Yeah... Maybe two steps. That's because it was built as an O&D airport, not as a hub.
35 BoeingFever777 : never.... DFW is large enough for expansion already. agrees.... Connected though DFW in early June and flew onto DCA and the airport was very nice. S
36 Jdaniel001 : Finally something I agree with. But yet, we must wonder if the guy who thought up the toll booths was the same guy who said "let's put toll booths on
37 Nonrevman : It is not just weather that is the problem with ATL. They are maxed out with ATC issues. Any type of irregular operations will create a scene of chaos
38 Ssides : Why do you have to transfer from B to E? Are you connecting from BA to HP, or KE to DL? Those are the only two combinations I can think of that would
39 Nonrevman : Are you sure about this? I know that this was in effect a couple of years ago, but if I am not mistaken, they changed it to charge everyone regardles
40 CasInterest : Ok, I really have to ask....How/WHY??? were you making the connection in RDU? I will venture this was a US Airways to United Express switch for some
41 Ssides : You are right; I stand corrected. The minimum is $1.00 for 8 minutes - 1 hour (0-8 minutes is $2.00). I simply use my TollTag, so I guess I haven't n
42 Post contains links Nonrevman : I just checked the DFW website, and you do have to pay now no matter what if you go through that toll booth. Here is the page I found it on: http://ww
43 ORD : My favorite terminal had always been 4E (now just E) when Delta had its hub there. The entire terminal was redone around 1997 with new carpeting, gate
44 Post contains images Misbeehavin : I wouldn't consider myself lucky to be living in Dallas! But what you say is true. It is great to arrive or depart from DFW. I have often made it fro
45 Post contains images S12PPL : EUG is probaby a wee bit shorter than the two combined
46 Post contains images Henpol747 : You think DFW is bad?? My friend you haven´t seen anything yet, try MEX for example!!!! Henpol747
47 Post contains images AAtakeMeAway : Or how about SPS or EVV HP has moved to E?
48 STARalliance24 : Mex is not that bad. It has: -Air France daily (AF438, AF344) -British Airways (BA243) -Iberia (IB6405, IB6405) -Lufthansa (LH498) -KLM (KL685) -Japa
49 HPRamper : I was actually transferring from UA to DL. Such are the breaks of booking the cheapest one-way possible....my flight went PDX-ORD-RDU on UA, RDU-ATL-
50 Jdaniel001 : Don't blame DFW for AA's mistake
51 CasInterest : Ok, but i gotta tell you, I don't think that makes RDU the worst airport. You managed to have a pretty trippy connection (mind you, you could have ta
52 StarCruiser : I have never seen DFW dirty, and I have changed planes there more times than I'd like to count. My connections are always on AA as I fly AA 90% of th
53 AirbusBoeing : We have transferred at Dallas twice. I wouldn't say its dirty....for that we have a good contender here at home ..LAX. The problem with the "simple C
54 N766UA : When I was at DFW I found it quite easy to navigate. My only gripe was that the concourses are rather narrow for the volume of people in them. Apart f
55 Apodino : I have a few beefs with DFW but there are many worse airports out there. 1. I don't know why they designed the airport for O and D when its a hub airp
56 BN747DFWHNL : I am not a regular international flier, but I have flown through a number of airports, mostly in the US, and DFW doesn't seem to me like it could be p
57 Isitsafenow : S12PPL.....MCI officials have bragged.."75 feet from curbside to Jetway".. They are right, and that's for ALL gates in the three terminals. The thing
58 Ssides : That is another very legitimate complaint. At most airports, you drop off departing passengers on the upper level and pick them up from baggage claim
59 Boeing7E7 : That's because DFW is responsible for the roadways within the Airport boundary and people were using it like a freeway. Because when it was built the
60 Jdaniel001 : Are you serious....do you know when DFW was built? Do you know when deregulation happened? Ok...I don't think alot of people know this...When DFW was
61 TACAA320 : I agree 100%. Not that much!
62 FlyinHi : I've connected through DFW countless times as a loyal AA customer, and I have to say that it has always been quick, easy to navigate, and the intra-ai
63 Jetter2 : MEX,LAX,JFK and MIA are all places where I have horrible expirences, but then again, every dog has it's day. I live in dallas and I love DFW. It's a b
64 Tockeyhockey : i am amazed that only a few people are mentioning ORD as MUCH MUCH worse than DFW! ORD is such a strange place -- very confusing, very long distances
65 GOAQ : JDaniel001-response 50 Why would you blame AA or anyone else for a delay because of weather? Just Curious? If a baseball game is rained out do you bla
66 Jdaniel001 : I don't blame the weather on them, just the lack of utilizing gates correctly.
67 Ejmmsu : Anyone that continues to bash DFW has never been on the skylink, or seen the new international terminal. With the completion of the skylink, DFW went
68 Post contains images GQfluffy : I agree. I'll never understand why people don't like ATL. Like you said; VERY easy to get around in. Yes I am, and neither did you. (was hoping the "
69 Jdaniel001 : Amen Ejmmsu.........
70 Ccc : I think LAX has got to be one of the worst airports for travelers. 1. It is often very congested. Too many cars and busses in the Central Terminal are
71 Post contains images HPRamper : I was going to bring that up....I was aware of the buses, but my connection time was so short that upon inquiry the UA counter agents advised me that
72 Neednewairport : I HATE DFW and have paid more on other airlines to avoid stopping there. Two reasons for my feelings: 1. I hated that old trAAin. Is the new one runni
73 Post contains images CRJIAD : I DONT UDERSTAND WHAT ALL THE FUSS IS ABOUT. Im currently working at IAD talk about a hole. I flew into DFW about 6 months ago for the first time and
74 Vatveng : LGA anyone? Miserable place.
75 Jdaniel001 : Ok...the new train is up...come spend your hard earned money at DFW again. Texas needs it. Also....see I am not the only person that checks out food
76 Cltguy : My main gripe with DFW was the TrAAin. It was a total piece of crap. The only slower and shakier people mover I have been on was the one in IAH...than
77 HPRamper : Thank you for your agreement. Come to think of it, I can't stand DCA either. Possibly the ugliest exterior of any airport I've seen, and everything th
78 Post contains images Texdravid : That's nice, but what is there to spot at DFW?!!
79 Post contains images STARalliance24 : Nothin much...Exept for a few thousand AAs but thats it LOL .It doesn't have alooot of Intl flights.
80 Boeing7E7 : LAX is in an odd place in time. They have some hubbing, International, and an ass load of O&D traffic. It was built as an O&D and needs to be somewhe
81 LY4XELD : You live here...you know how hot it is on the jetway on a 90+ degree day. Windows would only make them hotter and harder to air condition. Have you b
82 Jdaniel001 : Ah the beauty of DCA is in the eye of the beholder. They are trying to fix it back to it's 1940's heyday. It's such a timecapsule. A bunch of bare me
83 ASTROJET707 : Ever try and get to and from AA Satellite A terminal to another Terminal, even AA's? Add weather issues and it plain sucks. Granted the designers did
84 Cltguy : LOL...did you bother to read my post which you quoted? Obviously not...so not only did you not read MY post...you didn't even bother to read your own
85 DAYflyer : Heck yeah there is a worse airport: ORD. Gotta be about the worst in the nation.
86 Rhuertas70 : I went through DFW last February. The Skylink was not operational yet and I took the AATrain to connect from one terminal to another. Compared with th
87 Jdaniel001 : Ok...I vote for ORD also. Who's with me!?!
88 Post contains images STARalliance24 : I'm a 100% with you dude.
89 Post contains images AirbusfanYYZ : Good God totally agree! IAD's portable classroom architecture on concourse C is not befitting an airport of a nation's Capital. Sad. But still think
90 Delta767300ER : I have always loved DFW and have never had a problem navigating it. When Delta used to have a large hub at DFW I preferred to connect thru DFW instead
91 Jumppilot : I love DFW. When there is delays, it's crazy. Reminds me of ORD.
92 Flyboeingjets : Nothing is more idiotic than a bunch of kids that haven't flown through DFW recently complaining about the airport. As a resident of DFW, and pilot th
93 STARalliance24 : You can't compare ORD to DFW. ORD is much much better. But this is my opinion.
94 Jdaniel001 : Your joking...DFW can clean their mess up a lot faster than ORD...and DFW doesnt' affect the entire US. Ah another "opinion". Prove it!!
95 Aa777jr : The new SkyLink makes connecting at DFW much more tolerable. I would rank it behind ORD now as my least favorite airports to visit. Regards.
96 Post contains images Jacobin777 : yikes..i'm heading to ORD tomorrow via connecting at DFW..not too keen on connecting @ DFW I'll take ORD any day over DFW..no questions asked..well..
97 Chicago757 : I'm gonna have to say MIA...dirty, run-down, too crowded. Hated it. I decided to fly home from FLL....which was far better. As for nicest airport....
98 Ikramerica : Is there worse? Yes, ATL and MIA! Is there some other ATL you go to that I just didn't visit twice? 1. NOT easy to maneuver. It is designed for planes
99 Halls120 : Have to disagree with this one. Heathrow is far worse than Dallas. Just try to make a tight connection when you arrive at Terminal 4, and must get to
100 Indy : I've always heard that CDG is really bad. I personally didn't like DFW because it didn't have a common meeting poing in a terminal. So if there is a g
101 Jetpixx : I liked DFW in my connections through there on the days of DL. I took the train from terminal to terminal and found a few good places to snap photos t
102 Post contains images Indy : Spoken like a true A netter
103 Tockeyhockey : i also avoid IAD at any cost. first of all, it's practically in west virginia. secondly, those retro-70s people movers are about the least efficient w
104 Post contains images EMBTucano : It is funny how people isn't never satisfied. The U.S. and Europe has the best airports in the world with all the structure necessary and you guys sti
105 Tockeyhockey : actually, the recent survey of best airports in the world found that most of them were in asia, none of them were in the US, and only a handful were
106 Apodino : Hold on. There is an underground tram that runs between all concourses in ATL. It runs frequently. I have never found carpet to hinder my ability wit
107 LipeGIG : Agree 100%. Also VIX, RAO and SDU. But there's no way to compare US and Brazilian Airports. Brazilian problem is the lack of investment, US the highe
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