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User currently offlineKhenleyDIA From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 426 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4108 times:

Okay, I thought I had a grasp of the 320 series until I saw one at LHR that said A320-200. How many different A320s are there? What exactly does the 200 refer to? Passengers? Engines? I'm guessing it has nothing to do with length.

I look forward to hearing your answers!

KhenleyDIA


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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4098 times:

Just about every A320 around is an A320-200.

I believe that the first 15 A320s produced were A320-100s: 5 for BCal (went to BA), 5 for Air Inter (AF) and 5 for AF itself. One difference between the A320-100 and the more common -200 is the wing fences (the mini-winglets at the end of the wing), the -100 models do not have them. I am not sure of what the other differences are, but I do think that the early model -100 variants have less range than the more typical -200 models.


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7572 posts, RR: 43
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4090 times:

There were A320-100's at the very beginning. Only a few are in service. They don't have wingtip fences. All other A320's are -200's. Same length as you say. In fact, pretty much the same airplane.


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User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 970 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4088 times:

>> What exactly does the 200 refer to? Passengers? Engines? I'm guessing it has nothing to do with length.

The initial production of the A320 began as the A320-100, and approx. 25 or so were produced. Production shifted to the -200 which featured higher MTOW and payload, as well as introduction of the wingfences.

Additionally:

There is also an A321-100 and a higher payload A321-200. All A318 and A319 are -100.

The last two digits refer to the engine selection (either CFMI or IAE)


User currently offlineKhenleyDIA From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 426 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4072 times:

Thank you all for the answers! I learned a new thing today.  Smile I must say, I figured there would have been a larger difference, but I guess MTOW could be reason enough. The wingtip fences I wouldn't see as enough of a reason for the new type. But hey, they didn't ask me!  Smile

KhenleyDIA



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User currently offlineEGNR From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 508 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4059 times:

The A320-200 is the now baseline version of the A320. The original A320-100 is no longer in production - I believe only 21 of these were produced and only fly for Air France and British Airways (BA inherited these A320s from a British Caledonian order). Air Inter also flew the A320-100 prior to its integration into Air France.

The A320-100 has no wingtip fences and als does not have as much fuel capacity, so its range is shorter than the now standard A320-200.


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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6888 posts, RR: 63
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3887 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 1):
I believe that the first 15 A320s produced were A320-100s



Quoting EddieDude (Reply 2):
There were A320-100's at the very beginning. Only a few are in service.



Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 3):
The initial production of the A320 began as the A320-100, and approx. 25 or so were produced.



Quoting EGNR (Reply 5):
I believe only 21 of these were produced and only fly for Air France and British Airways

Yes, 21 of the early A320s (c/ns 1 - 21) were -111s (though -200s - c/ns 22 onwards - had started flying before the last -100 flew). Two -100s crashed, one (AF) infamously at Habsheim in 1988 the other (Air Inter) at Strasbourg in 1992. Airbus still have c/n 001. The other 18 are all still flying - 13 for AF and 5 for British Airways.


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7411 posts, RR: 57
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3854 times:

AirBus Industries

F-WWBA msn 001

Air France A320-100 :

F-GFKA msn 005
F-GFKB msn 007
F-GFKC msn 009 destroyed in a crash at Habsheim in June 1988
F-GFKD msn 014
F-GFKE msn 019
F-GFKF msn 020
F-GFKG msn 021
F-GGEA ex Air Inter msn 010
F-GGEB ex Air Inter msn 012
F-GGEC ex Air Inter msn 013
F-GGED ex Air Inter msn 015- Destroyed in a crash near SXB in January 1992
F-GGEE ex Air Inter msn 016
F-GGEF ex Air Inter msn 004
F-GGEG ex Air Inter msn 003

F-GFKQ (msn 02) was also an A320-100. It was converted into a -200 before being delivered to AF in January 1991 but though a -200, it was not fitted with winglets.

British Airways A320-100

G-BUSB msn 006
G-BUSC msn 008
G-BUSD msn 011
G-BUSE msn 017
G-BUSF msn 018


User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3642 times:

FlySSC, my compliments on your excellent fleet list. Great job!
One question tho...the A320 prototype...is Airbus still using it as a testbed aircraft, or is it grounded collecting dust? Regards.



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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12109 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3559 times:
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A320-236, A320-232, A320-256 etc etc etc are all the same aircraft model but with different number of seats, engines etc

User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7411 posts, RR: 57
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3504 times:

FlagshipAZ,

msn 001 F-WWBA is still (very) active ! it is still used for testing new improved systems (software, brakes, etc...) or for demonstrations abroad.


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Note that this aircraft, originally a -100, is now fitted with winglets


User currently offlinePelican From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 2531 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3464 times:

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 3):
There is also an A321-100 and a higher payload A321-200.

Yep, the 321-200 has an additional fuel tank which the 321-100 has not and of course it was modified to bear those higher loads. It has also more powerful engine derivatives than the 321-100.

Does anybody know what Airbus made to increase the range of the 320-100 to reach the range of the 320-200? Added a centre fuel tank?


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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7411 posts, RR: 57
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3449 times:

The original A321-100 shows a reduction in range compared to the A320-200 as the extra fuel tank was not added to compensate for the extra weight.

To overcome this, Airbus launched the longer range and heavier A321-200 in 1995 witch has a full PAX transcontinental US range.
This is achieved through higher thrust V2533-A5 or CFM56-5B3 engines and minor structural stengthening and 2900 Litres (766 US Gal.) greater fuel capacity with the installation of an additional center fuel tank.


User currently offlineEGNR From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 508 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3312 times:

Quoting 777ER (Reply 9):
A320-236, A320-232, A320-256 etc etc etc are all the same aircraft model but with different number of seats, engines etc

Almost  wink . Airbus model numbers are decyphered as follows...
A3XX-ABC
Obviously, A3XX is the model - e.g. A320, A330, A340, A380, etc.
'A' denotes the series of that model - e.g. A340-200, A340-300, A340-500, A340-600, etc.
'B' denotes the engine manufacturer:

  • '0' = General Electric,
  • '1' = cfm International,
  • '2' = Pratt & Whitney,
  • '3' = International Aero Engines,
  • '4' = Rolls Royce,
  • '6' = Engine Alliance


Examples:

  • A320-111 - an A320-100 fitted with the first variant of the cfm powerplant made available on the A320.
  • A300-605 - an A300-600 fitted with the fifth variant of the General Electric powerplant made available on the A300.
  • A330-342 - an A330-300 fitted with the second variant of the Rolls Royce powerplant available on the A330 model line up.

    Note: ('5' is not used - not sure why, maybe the joint venture for the engines on A400M was assigned the '5'?).

    'C' denotes the variant of that engine, e.g. on the A340-500 and A340-600. Both use the Rolls Royce Trent 500, but the A340-600 uses a higher thrust variant, so we have A340-541 and A340-642.

    MyTravel, Thomas Cook and Monarch all fly A330-243s with high seating capacity for IT charter work. Emirates, bmi, Etihad also fly A330-243s but with far fewer seats.

    Airbus's numbering system is more like that of a car manufacturer - everybody has the same model designation (badge on the trunk), but picks their own options (configures their own interior - seat numbers, etc.).

    Whereas Boeing give each customer models with their own unique numbers, e.g '7X7-X36' for British Airways, '7X7-X38' for Qantas, '7X7-XH4' for Southwest.



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User currently offlineKhenleyDIA From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 426 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3264 times:

I am very impressed by all the information! Wow! And I figured this thread would be dead after a day. Thanks everyone! EGNR, thanks for all the details. That helps a lot.

KhenleyDIA



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