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18 Year Old Starts Airline  
User currently offlineRossbaku From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 673 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 14967 times:

Taken from BBC News:

Teenage airline aims for take-off

A Merseyside teenager is set to join the ranks of no-frills travel operators with the launch of his own airline.
Daniel Reilly, of Maghull, set up Nexus Airlines in his bedroom after finding inspiration from a school project.

The 18-year-old now leases a Boeing 737 which will be flying to Tenerife, Gran Canaria, Lanzarote and Fuerteventura from Liverpool's John Lennon Airport...


By the way, the 737 is leased from Futura International Airlines.

Lucky sod!  gnasher  If anyone manages to get a photo of the new aircraft, or has the oppertunity to fly this leased 737, let us all know!

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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12088 posts, RR: 18
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 14863 times:
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An 18 year old owning his own airline.......lucky thing.

User currently offlineEgmcman From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 898 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 14854 times:

I wonder want sort of service they will offer as I would imagine it must take in the region 4 to 41/2 hours on those routes. Ray Webster said no would want EZY's service level for longer than on their services to Athens.

egmc


User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12088 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 14844 times:
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Do Futura International Airlines fly B738s?

User currently offlineBushpilot From South Africa, joined Jul 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 14828 times:

Hi all I have to say is good luck. I wish the best for him. If he makes it work , lets all get a bankroll and start our own airline. What a dream for A.netters.

User currently offlineAMSMAN From Ireland, joined Jan 2002, 1016 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 14817 times:

Wonder is it anyone on A.net? Would be cool if it was. Well I say well done!


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User currently offlineVS747SPUR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 373 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 14796 times:

Well done to him I do hope it all works out for him !

However has he only leased one aircraft ? Because apparently reading the paper today it says they want to do twice weekly to Tenerife, and once weekly to Gran Canaria, Lanzarote and Fuerteventura. Would you say one plane is enough considering things like delays and possible tech probs etc... ?
Best of luck to him however !

VS747SPUR



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User currently offlineRossbaku From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 673 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 14649 times:

Yes he is only leasing a 737. It does seem a little optimistic just to run one aircraft, he should have one as a backup like a little Fokker (haha no joke meant).

User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24923 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 14614 times:

Futura fly 737-400s and 737-800s. I believe that Nexus plan on using a 737-400, which will be based in the Canaries. I dont think that it will be repainted from Nexus c/s


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User currently offlineBackfire From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 14611 times:

Quoting 777ER (Reply 1):
An 18 year old owning his own airline.......lucky thing.

No such thing as luck - it's all about determination and hard work. I've been admittedly sceptical about Nexus Airways, because it's been about two years since I initially contacted them about their project, but I'll gladly eat my hat if it actually gets off the ground.


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24923 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 14605 times:

Quoting Backfire (Reply 9):
but I'll gladly eat my hat if it actually gets off the ground.

We want pictures if it happens and you eat your hat then  Wink



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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12088 posts, RR: 18
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 14558 times:
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but I'll gladly eat my hat if it actually gets off the ground. I could say the same about two airlines that have been in the phone book for about 5 years and still have not taken to the skys. I wouldn't eat my hat thou when they finally start flying

User currently offlineMaddy From Germany, joined Aug 2004, 164 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 14453 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 8):
I dont think that it will be repainted from Nexus c/s

http://www.nexusairways.com/_common/images/Nexus%20737-800W%20in-flight.jpg

They have their own colors but the picture shows a 737-800, probably a future plane will be painted like that.


User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 14422 times:

He isn't the first - there was an 18 year old who started an Oxford-Cambridge service (@lpha1). This hasn't yet got off the ground!

http://www.flyalpha1.co.uk/



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User currently offlineDC-10 Levo From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 3432 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days ago) and read 14329 times:

First heard about this over at the Flightsimmer.com forums - where Danny is a member:

http://www.flightsimmer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40275

DC-10


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24923 posts, RR: 56
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days ago) and read 14314 times:

Look at the schedules, 737-400 showing as non LPL based. My guess is that this may be one of those virtual airlines, who only sell seats.


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User currently offlineMikey711MN From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1397 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days ago) and read 14258 times:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200507/s1417150.htm


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User currently offlineJmc757 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2000, 1298 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 month 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 14096 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 15):
Look at the schedules, 737-400 showing as non LPL based. My guess is that this may be one of those virtual airlines, who only sell seats

Aircraft will be Canaries based, whole operation managed by Futura Airways, under FUA flight codes. Nexus Airways are just a tour operator/ticket seller. They have chartered and airline to fly routes, and are marketing the seats.

This is very different from starting an airline (getting an AOC, acquiring aircraft, crews, insurance etc...) Anyone remember Leeds based "PlanetAir" a couple of years back? Selling seats under that brand, on chartered Spanair/Iberworld flights. By saying that, I do not wish to take anything away from him, as at 18 he has still achieved a great thing. This lad obviously has a lot about him, getting financial backing for a start. Best wishes to them.


User currently offlineRwylie77 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 367 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 month 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 13593 times:

Quoting Jmc757 (Reply 17):
Nexus Airways are just a tour operator/ticket seller. They have chartered and airline to fly routes, and are marketing the seats.

Isn't this how the guy (David Neeleman?) who set up JetBlue first started in the west coast? Can't remember the name, but the airline was bought out by SouthWest...


User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 month 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 13458 times:

Where did he get the cash to lease the 737?


What now?
User currently offlineKL808 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 month 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 13385 times:

Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 19):
Where did he get the cash to lease the 737?

Through investors. Dont know how he pulled that one off.

Drew



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User currently offlineTockeyhockey From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 950 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 month 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 13341 times:

the good news is that since he's so young, when his airline goes into bankruptcy, he'll have a lot of life ahead of him to pay off his debts.

User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 month 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 13275 times:

Quoting KL808 (Reply 20):
Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 19):
Where did he get the cash to lease the 737?

Through investors. Dont know how he pulled that one off.

Drew

We must be talking about several hundred thousend of pounds/euro/dollars?!?

Who is inversting in something like that?


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26414 posts, RR: 76
Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 month 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 13237 times:

Quoting Rwylie77 (Reply 18):
Isn't this how the guy (David Neeleman?) who set up JetBlue first started in the west coast? Can't remember the name, but the airline was bought out by SouthWest...

No, it isn't. David Neelman was the CEO of Morris Air, which was actually owned by June Morris. They were not based on the west coast, rather out of SLC and indeed flew their own 737-300 aircraft. Southwest (not SouthWest) took Morris Air over and June got a seat on the board (which she still has today) and Neelman got a job in upper management at WN. Turns out he was not happy as number 4 or 5 in the company and he parted ways with Southwest with a fresh non-compete clause. Since he could not compete in the US, he went up to Canada and helped set up WestJet with 4 investors. He then left and created Open Skies, the ultra-low cost booking system that was bought by HP and then Navataire. Now that his non-compete was up, he came back to the US and secured over $100 million in start up capital (a large chunk from George Soros) to start New Air, which became jetBlue Airways



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User currently offlineCalAir From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 298 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (9 years 1 month 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 12999 times:

TockeyHockey, i think you will find if the broker goes bankrupt, he may go bankrupt too, which would only mean him being personally bankrupt for 5 yrs MAX and he would have the majority of his debts written off,unless he had the assets to pay them off, which at the age of 18 is very unlikely. His main concern would be the action that his investors may take to recover funds lost through the bankruptcy, and if he was found to have been reckless in his actions and not made reasonable efforts to prevent the bankruptcy, he may be open to criminal procedings.

However, lets not forget that Stelios and Mr Branson started out with one a/c and they said they would never last. Look at them now!
Hope he's able to fly in his own right soon. Maybe he could look at someone like Astraeus operting for him in Nexus colours, like Iceland Express did.



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25 Grimey : He's from Merseyside so he more likely robbed it.
26 Post contains images BMIFlyer : He received £50,000 from venture capitalists. He is having help from his mums partner, Maybe he knows the right people. Anyway, I wish him luck   L
27 Jmc757 : The financial commitement to start this operation is not as much as many of you may imagine. He hasn't leased a 737. So far he has chartered Futura Ai
28 Post contains images Rossbaku : Damn that'd be a bad way to start off your life after school! Paying debts...well I suppose students do this all the time...but not on a scale as big
29 Aa757first : Actually, yes it was. Morris Air was a scheduled charter airline for quite a while. They did eventually obtain their own operating certificate. AAndr
30 SparkingWave : There is such a thing as luck. BAD LUCK. In the airline industry, there's tons of it. I only hope this poor kid can roll with the punches, because in
31 Aa757first : In the United States at least, scheduled charter flights require the money be escrowed until after the flight is complete. AAndrew
32 AbirdA : 18 years old, huh? I guess the poor guy can't expect 1MillionFlyer's patronage. Sorry...It was just too easy of a shot.
33 ManchesterMAN : What's the saying, the easiest way to become a millionnaire from the airline industry is to start off as a billionnaire ...
34 Singel09 : the 18 year starting a service from Oxford to Cambridge seems like the only 'solid' story so far. Where the first paying customer is Sir Richard Brans
35 AJRfromSYR : He might be the youngest person to file bankruptcy in a few years
36 Orion737 : Will the flights be no-frills? LPL to Canaries is a fair way and wont it be hard to compete when you can book a charter flight and have at least the o
37 Indy : Most 18 year olds are lucky to get a department store charge card. This guy somehow gets a jet. I wonder how much money his parents gave him?
38 AJRfromSYR : How much start up capital do you think this took?
39 Indy : If this is a charter service is this really something that anyone in the U.S. could start up? Or would there be endless miles of government red tape t
40 ContnlEliteCMH : I think you'd be surprised. Here in the US, it is no longer uncommon for students with a mere bachelor's degree to exit school with 50,000USD debt. A
41 Flybyguy : I don't think ANYONE in their right mind would want to start a new airline in such a terrible economic climate. The U.S. is a less than ideal place t
42 Ratypus : I wonder if there is really a market for a no-frills operator between Liverpool and the Canary Islands - the strategy most low-cost airlines have in c
43 EnviroTO : I'm sure he would incorporate his business and not be liable for the debt any more than a CEO of US Airways is liable for the billions of debt incurr
44 Luke : True, and the charters also sell seat-only tickets anyway. This means that Nexus would have to compete with the low-cost airlines (ie. Get people pay
45 Indy : I can see there being some benefits to running a charter. You don't have the staffing demands that an airline has. You get the use of a fully maintena
46 Planesailing : ITN reported on the story also. Apparently, £40,000 of investment had been secured for the airline. Easyjet started with £20million, and Ryanair beg
47 Toering : He might be an A. nutter.............. be carefule of what you say, you might be posting somthing for him to read. He might also reply???
48 Planesailing : From the Flightsim website he announced it on: "On one note, I'm relatively thick skinned, so you can give me all the cynical views you wish on Friday
49 Samair : nothing nice to say on this lads succsess typical!
50 Planesailing : Look what happened to jetMagic, and that was made on the back of a Degree coursework, and not an A-level coursework!
51 Post contains images ACdreamliner : there is a certain 19 year old around here who still has not given up
52 SonOfACaptain : Good lord, what's his allowance? -SOAC
53 Post contains images Indy : I knew a kid that received in the area of $150k from a friend of the family to start his own business when he turned 18. The friends of my family suck
54 Post contains images Harry : one of my goal in my life also is start a small airline of course, that's after i got my commerial pilot license and work for a little while to save u
55 Post contains images Rossbaku : He should seriously think about training to become a pilot if his airline is going to get off the ground. If he is flying the one and only plane in hi
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