Gkirk From United Kingdom (Scotland), joined Jun 2000, 23832 posts, RR: 69 Posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1732 times:
Apparently EZY will cut LGW-Cork, Shannon and Knock flights.
Read it on the Key Publishing Forums, nothing on the EZY website yet though.
Not surprising if true I suppose
When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
LGW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1521 times:
Hi all,
Shame if true it is an excellent link for people in the South East to get to the West of Ireland. Easyjet have better timed flights (IMHO) than FR on the SNN services and very good fares on the three Irish routes.
I have used both the ORK and SNN services and the ORK flight was pretty much full both ways; the SNN flights about 60% full outbound and less than 30 pax on the inbound.
With the increase in flights this winter from FR SNN would have seen 2x738 and 2x319 each day thats way to much supply and I guess there would always be one looser, just suprised EZY are going to cut the routes after only 6 months or so of operation.
Why would they cut LGW-ORK though? AFAIK EZY have a monopoly on LGW-ORK and I understand it is doing OK.
Any word on how the spare aircraft and slots at LGW would be utilised of these rumors become fact?
GLAGAZ From United Kingdom (Scotland), joined Feb 2004, 1907 posts, RR: 17 Reply 3, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1504 times:
Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 1): Shame really, where will U2 go next then?
New Scottish routes rumoured to be announced shortly.
Gaz
Neutrality means that u don't really care cos the struggle goes on even when ur not there, blind and unaware
EZYAirbus From United Kingdom (England), joined Sep 2003, 2314 posts, RR: 62 Reply 4, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1473 times:
Quoting Gkirk (Thread starter): Apparently EZY will cut LGW-Cork, Shannon and Knock flights.
Just a rumour!
Quoting GLAGAZ (Reply 3): New Scottish routes rumoured to be announced shortly.
SNN27 From Ireland, joined Jul 2005, 17 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1419 times:
EZYAirbus,
I really do hope these are just rumours. Used the SNN-LGW and enjoyed the service very much. The loads were horrendous though. I have heard that ORK loads are good, so it would surprise me if they pulled the ORK route, but you must surely be having doubts about SNN?
7LBAC111 From United Kingdom (Northern Ireland), joined Jul 2004, 2556 posts, RR: 55 Reply 7, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1318 times:
Does SNN work for anyone though?
I mean FR pretty much ignored it for years, and EI don;t expand from there. It's 100 miles from both GWY and ORK, so faces that challenge all the time.
Even back when I was with AB Airlines, the decision to operate ex SNN was always seen as unusual.
7LBAC111
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Gkirk From United Kingdom (Scotland), joined Jun 2000, 23832 posts, RR: 69 Reply 8, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1299 times:
Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 7): Even back when I was with AB Airlines,
Showing your age now!
Were you with them as Air Belfast and Air Shannon and whatever else they called themselves?
When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
Richardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3097 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1174 times:
LGW-CGN doesn't appear to be returning for winter, also LGW-MAD appears to be going to 3 times daily during the week in the winter, the Irish routes were flown daily with utilising one aircraft per day, so appears that this aircraft may have been reallocated.
BestWestern From Ireland, joined Sep 2000, 5071 posts, RR: 62 Reply 10, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1142 times:
Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 7): Does SNN work for anyone though?
Shannon is an unusual battle ground for LCC's.. First it was AB airlines, then virgin express musceled in and failed. Now it's EZY and FR fighting over nothing.
Does God get peeved if you dont use a capital 'g' ?
7LBAC111 From United Kingdom (Northern Ireland), joined Jul 2004, 2556 posts, RR: 55 Reply 11, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1122 times:
Quoting Gkirk (Reply 8): Were you with them as Air Belfast and Air Shannon and whatever else they called themselves?
Yes - started as Air Belfast at BFS, then transferred to SNN when we became AB Shannon, and then finally AB Airlines. Three name changes in 4 years. What a way to run an airline ....
Greenjet From Ireland, joined Aug 2001, 845 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 979 times:
The June loadfactors for the three LGW routes involving EZY are listed below. EZY is the only airline on LGW-ORK while the LGW-NOC and LGW-SNN figures are for both FR and EZY combined - but they give an indication of the overcapacity at SNN. NOC meanwhile goes from strength to strength.
Sam the Lab From Ireland, joined Aug 2001, 211 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 952 times:
Just beats me why EZY would want to quit Knock and Cork then with load factors like the above? Is Cork and Knock really going to be sacraficed because of a poorly performing snn Gatwick service. If so, easyJet is doing a great dis-service to her customers at Cork and Knock as well as her own shareholders.
As it is even if easyJet do stay on Knock and Cork they have all ready lost out big time with autumn weekend bookings and especially the Irish October Bank Holiday weekend and the Cork Jazz Festival also in October. What a way to do business!
EasyJet do have questions to answer about their business and reputation if this is also a part of they allowing themselves to be bullied by Ryanair into quitting the Knock and Cork markets to London?
Cornish From United Kingdom (England), joined Feb 2005, 8092 posts, RR: 61 Reply 15, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 912 times:
Quoting Sam the Lab (Reply 13): Quoting Sam the Lab (Reply 13):
Just beats me why EZY would want to quit Knock and Cork then with load factors like the above?
Because loads don't necessarily mean profit. If those seats are being sold at a few quid a pice, then the money isn't coming in....
Quoting Sam the Lab (Reply 13): EasyJet do have questions to answer about their business and reputation if this is also a part of they allowing themselves to be bullied by Ryanair into quitting the Knock and Cork markets to London?
7LBAC is completely right. Besides, pulling out has nothing to do with being bullied - if the monet isn't coming in then they will pull out, as they did with ZRH when the charges got too high to make it profitable. Ryanair is no different in this respect. Its pulled or moved plenty of routes when it is clear that they aren't performing profitably.
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Sam the Lab From Ireland, joined Aug 2001, 211 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 757 times:
Well, yes, sure there is profit but what does easyJet want exactly from a route as it is certainly unclear at the moment.
What do they want to be? A sort of high fares airlines like BA or dare I suggest it is there a perception at easyland that somehow Irish routes are less cool and than your Berlins and your Romes etc on continental Europe?
That would be a handy get out for them but don't forget Ireland has one of the strongest economies in Europe where many thousands of people from Eastern Europe from Poland, Czeck Republic, Hungary, the Baltic States etc have chosen to work and many of whom would be likely passengers on easy flights ex ORK and NOC via LGW making their way home on holidays to their countries of birth.
At worst ezy LGW-ORK performs well with a good yield for a one hour flight with a quick turnaround at Cork. Why have ezy not yet confirmed their intentions on Knock and Cork to LGW? The answer is they have no answerable case for quitting. There is some bull theory at work here and no one from easy HQ has the guts to say so and stop this crazy likely intention of dumping of some good routes.
A340600 From United Kingdom (England), joined Aug 2003, 3976 posts, RR: 60 Reply 17, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 736 times:
I flew the ORK route at the end of June. 40 pax outbound, completely full inbound. I would choose them over FR anyday on the SNN/NOC routes, and the prces are awesome! I got ORK for £20rtn incl. taxes!
Quoting Richardw (Reply 9): LGW-CGN doesn't appear to be returning for winter
Hmm, I suppose Germanwings are very strong on that route. They also, in theory, offer a better product, with leather seats etc,
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