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AS Flight Attendants Vote Down Tentative Agreement  
User currently offlineWeAreUnited From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 423 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3322 times:

Full results aren't out yet..... but the TA was voted down. No 2% pay raise for me!

source: alaskamec.org

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User currently offlineTOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3501 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3311 times:

Given all the success that the other labor groups at AS have had, it doesn't surprise me at all that the FA's voted down this TA....  banghead 

I'll be interested to hear what was in the TA that caused the vote....

User currently offlineWeAreUnited From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 423 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3202 times:

Bad things:
Longer duty day (12:30)
No crew meals
PBS bidding system
no cap on insurance premiums
2% pay raise (not really if you take into account the HUGE amount that insurance is going up)

Good things I wish we could have voted in:
Day for Day trading (ie: 4 turns for a 4 day)
4 hour cut off for trades

That's just a few things- but the biggest issues I believe.

User currently offlineStevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3131 times:

Just read in the Puget Sound Business Journal that it was voted down, 61% against. Not a big margin, but enough.


User currently offlineASFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1452 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3112 times:

I think that PBS would have been a good thing and, oddly enough, it was the least of peoples arguments when push came to shove.

The 12.5 hour duty days were limited to 25% of the pairings and we were going to re-ratify it in 2 years max so if it wasn't working out the way we had hoped then we could vote it out. It was the belief that those pairings built over 12.5 hours would be higher productivity trips that would allow F/A's to work more hours in less days, which typically go senior at other airlines.

Crew meals.... they can have 'em. They aren't all that great and most people don't bother eating them anyway. It's A LOT of wasted food. It would have created a hardship for our junior F/A's on reserve though since they can never plan on what kind of flying they might get stuck with. If we could have gotten something good for giving them up though, they can take them. Ideally, it would be good if they were able to come to some sort of a happy medium and just offer the snack boxes on most flights so that people at least have something to eat if they get hungry. They could eliminate a lot of expense by not putting on the hot meals. OR they could just put some sort of sandwich/burrito/pizza pocket on most flights rather than the snack boxes. In either case they would probably see a huge savings over what they do now.

Here are a few more good things:

Delay pay without passengers on board
Stranded pay at base
new hires no longer get a line their first month (this was an abrogation of seniority)
small raise in our per diem, which is already among the highest in the industry at $2.00 per hour.

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