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GT Announce LGW-INN  
User currently offlineRichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3749 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2157 times:

Is this their first ever scheduled ski flight, I wonder.

http://www.gbairways.com/news_offers/latest_news/article/?p=7&a=2167

New flights to Innsbruck, Austria
July 15, 2005

British Airways franchise partner, GB Airways, will start direct flights from London Gatwick to Innsbruck, Austria this winter.

The airline will fly five times a week starting December 17, 2005 throughout the ski season and continue with two flights a week in summer 2006.

John Patterson, GB Airways’ managing director said: “We have operated flights on behalf of charter customers to Innsbruck over the past few winters and have identified a real need for scheduled flights that allow travellers the flexibility and choice to fly direct and in comfort with a world renowned full service airline. By flying both during the week and at weekends, we are confident that these flights will be particularly popular with the short break market.”

All flights offer a choice of Club Europe and Euro Traveller cabins with complimentary food and drinks and of course more legroom and baggage allowance than many other carriers.

All-inclusive return fares start at £79.

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User currently offlineAIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2498 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2099 times:

Nice move from GT and BA. Nice to see them adding some exotic destinations. I would like to know if those routes are making a lot of money? BA said at some point they will not open leisure route but will concentrate on business routes...


Next flights : BRU-ZRH-CAI (LX)/ BRU-FCO-TLV (AZ)
User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2096 times:

Hey, how about the OS 736 INN-LGW? Is it still flying from there, as I saw her recently in VIE.

Or is it only winter charter?


User currently offlineRichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3749 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1984 times:

BA are continuing LGW-CTA through the winter, which I presume is mainly a leisure route.

How do BA/GT decide who flies where? Do GT have to go through an approval process with BA before they announce new destinations?

DBV is an interesting one. LGW-DBV is a BA mainline route and MAN-DBV a GT route.


User currently offlineAIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2498 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1944 times:

GB airways is cancelling flights to Almeria and Oporto for the whole winter season. Flights to Valencia have been dramtically reduced Sad


Next flights : BRU-ZRH-CAI (LX)/ BRU-FCO-TLV (AZ)
User currently offlineRichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3749 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1938 times:

I did notice the timings for LGW-VLC had changed, but it is also a codeshare with IB's VLC-LHR route.

I think GT in the winter is moving to routes with much higher leisure demand, such as INN and SSH.


User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3766 posts, RR: 60
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1910 times:

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 2):
Hey, how about the OS 736 INN-LGW?

They're still flying as usual, but the passenger traffic is rather low, not only because of the VERY HIGH prices ( starting 300+ euros I think ).

Bookings can also be made from the BA website, like all mainline BA flights, so the new route is more or less just operated by GB.

Fares round trip inclusive taxes are around 145 Euros, not too bad compared to the OS / NG flight.



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User currently offlineFlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2080 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1856 times:

Interesting that GT have added Innsbruck while BA have opted to serve Grenoble this Winter, both ski services. Good move by both carriers to increase aircraft utilisation over the Winter.

BA seems to have withdrawn from Spain and Portugal completely at LGW in favour of GT, with the exception of MAD and BCN. In North Africa GT has the leiure routes to Morrocco and Tunisia, while BA operates the oil routes to Algeria and Libya.

In France GT has picked up Montpellier from BA and launched Nantes and Bastia (Corsica) on its own, but BA retains Toulouse, Bordeaux and Marseille from LGW, while Italy is entirely BA.

BA returned to Thessaloniki this Summer, while GT added Heraklion (Crete), so Greece is split too.

Maybe in its shorthaul review BA will look at handing over more routes to GT? Radical move would be to hand over all ops at LGW, bar domestic and maybe MUC, HAJ and LUX, to GT, with BA maybe taking a stake in GT again? Then again, if BA can make money off its leisure operations at LGW, why bother? LGW is the full-service leisure hub for BA now, so good to see they can make it work.

What would be good was if BA handed GT its Italian routes at MAN. A320 to FCO, VCE, BLQ and PSA would beat the Embraer anyday!



Let's Go British Caledonian!
User currently offlineFlycro From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 374 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1824 times:

Quoting FlyCaledonian (Reply 7):
What would be good was if BA handed GT its Italian routes at MAN. A320 to FCO, VCE, BLQ and PSA would beat the Embraer anyday!

If BA could fill A320's with northerners they'd have done it by now, but truth is they struggle to fill a EMB145


User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1819 times:

I also prefer the cozy pocket rocket Embraer to yet another whining A320.

User currently offlineFlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2080 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1817 times:

Flycro, I doubt BA would have done it by now. Look at how GT is managing to grow its MAN operation, taking on the lo-cos and scheduled charters. With a lower cost base than BA, so I'd imagine, I think they could probably manage routes to Italy.


Let's Go British Caledonian!
User currently offlineBAxMAN From St. Helena, joined May 2004, 671 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1808 times:

All BA flights at MAN (other than LGW/LHR) are Citiexpress as opposed to BA mainline. I would assume (but do not know for certain) that Citiexpress have a lower cost base than BA mainline.


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User currently offlineMainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2097 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1735 times:

Quoting Flycro (Reply 8):
If BA could fill A320's with northerners they'd have done it by now, but truth is they struggle to fill a EMB145

How do you know that they struggle to fill EMB145's? It's not what's previously been reported and discussed on here.

Don't forget that AZ fill their 320s and MD83s, FR and LS fill their 737s etc.


User currently offlineBBADXB From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1684 times:

So perhaps there's still a chance of having mainline BA from LHR into MLA after all!

User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2004 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1656 times:

Didn't the airport Innsbruck negociate with some other LCCs apart of GT, Germanwings, HLX, SkyEurope ?
What happened to those plans ? Any news from Austria ?


User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3766 posts, RR: 60
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1603 times:

Quoting Chiguire (Reply 14):
Didn't the airport Innsbruck negociate with some other LCCs apart of GT, Germanwings, HLX, SkyEurope ?
What happened to those plans ? Any news from Austria ?

You are right!

SkyEurope announced INN as their new addition to the route network just today!

See:
http://www.airliners.net/discussions...eral_aviation/read.main/2229041#12

German LCCs ( Hapag Lloyd Express as well as Germanwings ) are still having negociations with the airport, and may start flights to INN in the 2006 summer season!

cheers,
Florian ( < VERY happy INN local )



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User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2004 posts, RR: 16
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1582 times:

Quoting INNflight (Reply 15):

SkyEurope announced INN as their new addition to the route network just today!

Hi, you happy INN local !

Don't you think that just AMS and ORY is little ? Aren't there more airports they could have served ? In Germany for example ? I mean, if the airport is OK with SkyEurope, why don't they simply also operate the routes they now expect Germanwings and HLX to serve ?


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