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User currently offlineBlasphemystic From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 213 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 2 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 9081 times:

With the flames being soo close to the plane (as it is stated in the pic) why would they keep these runways active?


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User currently onlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8273 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 9052 times:

Well, the runways aren't on fire, so why not? The airplane would have to be about in the fire for it to have any effect.


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User currently offlineUsAirways16bwi From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1004 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 9037 times:

as long as there is no threat to the runway and the planes, i guess theres no problem. The fires look far enough from the runway for there to be any problems though.

User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 9014 times:

And you always have the trusty ILS just in case the smoke gets too dense. Big grin

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 8860 times:

Looks close.But Probably the Pic angle contributes to it.
BTW what was the Fire about.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 8731 times:

Risking some passengers life is cheaper than closing AGP at high season. Even if nobody will say this, it's true - it's true everywhere. Is it related to the wood fires next to Madrid? Malaga should be far away from the Spanish capital.

Georg


User currently offlineBlasphemystic From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 213 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 8654 times:

You can actually see the flames  crazy 
I just wouldn't want to see that if I was looking out the window.



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User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6873 posts, RR: 75
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 8580 times:

Looks like the wind is blowing the smoke away from the runway... if the smoke was blown by the wind INTO the runway then it would be a different story... From local experience, smoke can turn your VFR300days a year into 30 days of CATII when you only got CATI ILS...

Mandala499



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User currently offlineGlidepath73 From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 1020 posts, RR: 44
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 8514 times:

Pictures like those may show things really close to each other. In real, the stuff is much more away from the foreground.
In the desert you see suddenly a mountain. It looks close. But you might work endless miles to reach the mountain. That's here more or less the same. Be assured, that there is enough distance.

Regards,
Patrick



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User currently offlineToulouse From Switzerland, joined Apr 2005, 2758 posts, RR: 57
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 8506 times:

Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 5):
Is it related to the wood fires next to Madrid? Malaga should be far away from the Spanish capital.

Thankfully it's not related to the fires in Guadalajara (Castilla La Manch region), next to Madrid, as Madrid is approx. 500 km. south of Madrid. So most likely it's just another of the many forest fires which devestate the Spanish countryside every summer, and more so this year due to the sever drought the country is suffering from.



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User currently offlineEDDM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 8488 times:

Quoting Toulouse (Reply 9):
as Madrid is approx. 500 km. south of Madrid.

Ah!


User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7107 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 8404 times:

Quoting EDDM (Reply 10):
Quoting Toulouse (Reply 9):
as Madrid is approx. 500 km. south of Madrid.

Ah!

HUH? Big grin


User currently offlineA360 From Portugal, joined Jun 2005, 434 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8213 times:

^He meant Malaga.
Malaga is about 500 km south of Madrid.


User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8192 times:

Oh,

Quoting Toulouse (Reply 9):
as Madrid is approx. 500 km. south of Madrid

 wideeyed 


User currently offlineGary2880 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7827 times:

thats a biiiiig city....

User currently offlineContinental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5517 posts, RR: 17
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7726 times:

It probably has to do with zoom used, it appears much closer.

User currently offlineIRelayer From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1073 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6732 times:

Yeah its the perspective for sure...in San Diego when we had the fires back in '03 and they opened the freeways back up, we could see the smoke and haze and some flames as we were driving along. This wasn't much of an issue. It was however, when they had to close TRACON because the fires were burning very close to it...that was chaos in terms of air travel in So-Cal.

-IR


User currently offlineHoward500 From Spain, joined Dec 2004, 77 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5899 times:

I wouldn't be worried about landing and departing aircraft..... I would be worried about re-fueling aircraft and incandescent bits of ash and the sort. Having said this, im sure the fire is sufficiently far away!


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User currently offlineMADtoCAE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5567 times:

I think the fire is far from the planes.

Quoting Toulouse (Reply 9):
Is it related to the wood fires next to Madrid?

There many fires in Spain in the Summer.
Many this year but many also not natural, the Guadalajara fire(controlled!!  Smile ) was caused by some people that didnt know what they were doing.
I cant even remember last time it rained, I think they said Spring 2004 on TV, this makes it a lot more easy for the fire to go fast.


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