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Blasphemystic From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 213 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 7681 times:

With the flames being soo close to the plane (as it is stated in the pic) why would they keep these runways active?

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N766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8008 posts, RR: 27
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 7652 times:

Well, the runways aren't on fire, so why not? The airplane would have to be about in the fire for it to have any effect.

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UsAirways16bwi From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1003 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 7637 times:

as long as there is no threat to the runway and the planes, i guess theres no problem. The fires look far enough from the runway for there to be any problems though.

FLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 7614 times:

And you always have the trusty ILS just in case the smoke gets too dense. Big grin

HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31228 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 7460 times:

Looks close.But Probably the Pic angle contributes to it.
BTW what was the Fire about.
regds
MEL

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Jorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3144 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7331 times:

Risking some passengers life is cheaper than closing AGP at high season. Even if nobody will say this, it's true - it's true everywhere. Is it related to the wood fires next to Madrid? Malaga should be far away from the Spanish capital.

Georg

Blasphemystic From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 213 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7254 times:

You can actually see the flames crazy

I just wouldn't want to see that if I was looking out the window.

The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good. -- Samuel Johnson

Mandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6210 posts, RR: 74
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7180 times:

Looks like the wind is blowing the smoke away from the runway... if the smoke was blown by the wind INTO the runway then it would be a different story... From local experience, smoke can turn your VFR300days a year into 30 days of CATII when you only got CATI ILS...

Mandala499

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Glidepath73 From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 1018 posts, RR: 49
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7114 times:

Pictures like those may show things really close to each other. In real, the stuff is much more away from the foreground.
In the desert you see suddenly a mountain. It looks close. But you might work endless miles to reach the mountain. That's here more or less the same. Be assured, that there is enough distance.

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Patrick

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Toulouse From Ireland, joined Apr 2005, 2726 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7106 times:

Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 5):
Is it related to the wood fires next to Madrid? Malaga should be far away from the Spanish capital.

Thankfully it's not related to the fires in Guadalajara (Castilla La Manch region), next to Madrid, as Madrid is approx. 500 km. south of Madrid. So most likely it's just another of the many forest fires which devestate the Spanish countryside every summer, and more so this year due to the sever drought the country is suffering from.

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EDDM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7088 times:

Quoting Toulouse (Reply 9):
as Madrid is approx. 500 km. south of Madrid.

Ah!

ZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 6971 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7004 times:

Quoting EDDM (Reply 10):
Quoting Toulouse (Reply 9):
as Madrid is approx. 500 km. south of Madrid.

Ah!

HUH?

A360 From Portugal, joined Jun 2005, 434 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days ago) and read 6813 times:

^He meant Malaga.
Malaga is about 500 km south of Madrid.

OHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 27
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6792 times:

Oh,

Quoting Toulouse (Reply 9):
as Madrid is approx. 500 km. south of Madrid

Gary2880 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6427 times:

thats a biiiiig city....

Continental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5476 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6326 times:

It probably has to do with zoom used, it appears much closer.

IRelayer From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1071 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5332 times:

Yeah its the perspective for sure...in San Diego when we had the fires back in '03 and they opened the freeways back up, we could see the smoke and haze and some flames as we were driving along. This wasn't much of an issue. It was however, when they had to close TRACON because the fires were burning very close to it...that was chaos in terms of air travel in So-Cal.

-IR

Howard500 From Spain, joined Dec 2004, 77 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4499 times:

I wouldn't be worried about landing and departing aircraft..... I would be worried about re-fueling aircraft and incandescent bits of ash and the sort. Having said this, im sure the fire is sufficiently far away!

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MADtoCAE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4167 times:

I think the fire is far from the planes.

Quoting Toulouse (Reply 9):
Is it related to the wood fires next to Madrid?

There many fires in Spain in the Summer.
Many this year but many also not natural, the Guadalajara fire(controlled!! Smile

) was caused by some people that didnt know what they were doing.
I cant even remember last time it rained, I think they said Spring 2004 on TV, this makes it a lot more easy for the fire to go fast.

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