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Delta Pulling Out Of HKY?  
User currently offlineCltguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 598 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 4032 times:

Whats the word on the Delta HKY service?

The Hickory, NC service has been running below 30% capacity since it started. It has also been running 90% leisure travelers which equals very low yeilds. With Delta's continued losses I don't see this flight sticking around for much longer.

I guess with HKY only being 1 hour away from CLT it makes it hard to compete. 3 flights a day versus 650 flights a day...which airport would your chose?

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User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 4003 times:

The flights will be there at least a year. If by then DL still has poor loads then they would consider dumping the route. If service was discontinued before that time it would have to be a mutual decision by the airport and DL.


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33289 posts, RR: 71
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 3957 times:

Apparently, if loads don't improve, Delta is going to have to ask the community to buy unused tickets, which will cost them $250,000 million dollars a month (I'm serious, read the article  Wink):

http://www.wcnc.com/news/topstories/...5-jmn-Delta_not_full.19fe2704.html

[Edited 2005-07-22 06:31:23]


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User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 43
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 3949 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 2):
$250,000 million dollars a month

Now *that* is quite the subsidy.  Wink



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8913 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 3935 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 2):
Apparently, if loads don't improve, Delta is going to have to ask the community to buy unused tickets, which will cost them $250,000 million dollars a month (I'm serious, read the article

Heck, I'll pull for the poor loads from HKY if this is true...maybe Delta can post a profit  Wink

Jeff


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33289 posts, RR: 71
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 3916 times:

Meanwhile, over in Kinston, the results have been good:

http://www.newsargus.com/news/archiv..._service_has_been_good/index.shtml

For those who don't know, Delta launch service to Hickory and Kinston on the same day. They are the only airline at both airports.



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User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 43
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3886 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 5):
For those who don't know, Delta launch service to Hickory and Kinston on the same day. They are the only airline at both airports.

They were announced at the same time, but I think ISO started a month or two before HKY.



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User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5604 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3864 times:

If DAL is the only carrier at HKY, couldn't they apply to the feds for an Essential Air Service operating subsidy?


I love long German words like 'Freundschaftsbezeigungen'.
User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 43
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3858 times:

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 7):
If DAL is the only carrier at HKY, couldn't they apply to the feds for an Essential Air Service operating subsidy?

Nope. HKY is too close to CLT to qualify for EAS subsidy.

That's why USX/CCAir was permitted to pull out in the first place.

See http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf80/161485_web.pdf.



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User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5604 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3824 times:

Ah, thanks, A330. The 75 mile limit? Maybe it should be cancelled then.


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User currently offlineCltguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 598 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 3791 times:

I think KIN is doing better becasue it is a 2 hour drive from the closest major airport, which is RDU. Whereas HKY is just a 45 min drive from CLT. Many people in HKY still find it more conveinent to drive to CLT to catch their flight...also there are a lot of Dividend Miles members in the HKY area.

User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 43
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 3669 times:

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 9):
Ah, thanks, A330. The 75 mile limit? Maybe it should be cancelled then.

Hey, I'm a huge fan of the EAS program, but repealing the 70-mile limit would be a total disaster. The dozens of communities that would again qualify for EAS subsidy would be a major drain of resources away from the communities that actually need the service.

Quoting Cltguy (Reply 10):
I think KIN is doing better becasue it is a 2 hour drive from the closest major airport, which is RDU.

Replace RDU with MBJ, or else replace KIN with ISO.  Wink



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