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Senator Files Bill To End Airline Flights At TUL  
User currently offlineKarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3105 posts, RR: 10
Posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7381 times:

Courtesy: KTUL-TV

http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0705/245725.html

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User currently offlineBoeing7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7353 times:

This is going to get a lot ugly before it gets pretty again.

[Edited 2005-07-23 00:33:53]

User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6765 posts, RR: 32
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7335 times:

Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 1):
The guy that wrote the headline ought to be shot. The bill is about DAL.

Are you able to read? This particular bill is a response to the Inhofe-sponsored bill to close DAL. Hensarling is sponsoring a bill to close TUL as a swipe at Inhofe and to point out how ludicrous it would be to close DAL.


User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7288 times:

Sometimes, to get attention, you have to say outrageous things, no matter how ridiculous the rest of the world thinks it is.

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User currently offlineEjmmsu From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1692 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7208 times:

I love it, I think its great  Smile


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User currently offlineJjbiv From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1226 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 7115 times:

That's cute...typical politics!

joe


User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 7064 times:

If the Wright Amendment were repealed, Inhofe says Oklahoma airports would be harmed because it would allow Southwest Airlines could make long-haul flights instead of stopping neighboring states first, reducing the number of flights coming through Tulsa and Oklahoma City.

Now, I'm confused. Doesn't Wright prohibit WN from selling tickets to DAL from non-adjacent states even if they stop in Oklahoma or other adjacent states?



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User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 977 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 7030 times:

>> PROSA Reply 6 >> Now, I'm confused. Doesn't Wright prohibit WN from selling tickets to DAL from non-adjacent states even if they stop in Oklahoma or other adjacent states?

The W.A. does, indeed, prevent WN from marketing or selling ticket iteneraries that depart from DAL and end anywhere outside the one-state perimeter, even if a stop is made in an adjacent state. This is one of the most rediculous aspects of the W.A. as WN cannot sell tickets like:

DAL-ABQ-LAS or DAL-OKC-MDW or DAL-MSY-MCO


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26499 posts, RR: 75
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 7004 times:

Quoting PROSA (Reply 6):
Doesn't Wright prohibit WN from selling tickets to DAL from non-adjacent states even if they stop in Oklahoma or other adjacent states?

Yes, but people can buy seperate tickets, which are actually often cheaper than buying tickets with AA out of DFW.

BTW, I cannot stand the senator who is sponsoring this bill (for other reasons, as I do think the WA sucks), but this is too damn funny



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User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 6952 times:

In response to Senator Jim Inhofe's support of a bill to force Southwest Airlines out of Love Field, a Texas senator is sponsoring a bill to shut down commercial airline flights to Tulsa International Airport.
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Last I checked, Jeb Hensarling represents Texas 5 in the US House.

Am I missing something or does Tulsa’s local ABC affiliate need to go on a fact finding mission?



Republican Senator Jeb Hensarling has named his bill the "What's Love Got To Do With It" Act.


With Tina Turner's blessing?


 spin 


User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4404 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6789 times:
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This is so ridiculous, why the hell would a Texas Senator want to close TUL? So ridiculous it's almost funny.


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User currently offlineFLAIRPORT From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6741 times:

so we have DAL, TUL, and JFK all closing!  Wink

Well, it'll help "overcapacity" (another big joke in the industry) Big grin


User currently offlineLt-AWACS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6668 times:

Quoting Iowaman (Reply 10):
This is so ridiculous, why the hell would a Texas Senator want to close TUL? So ridiculous it's almost funny.

He is not a senator; the article is incorrect, he is a member of the HOuse, and his bill is in response to Oklahoma's Senator Inhofe proposing a bill to close DAL.

Ciao, and Hook 'em Horns,
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User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6668 times:

Next thing you know Rep. Betty McCollum from St. Paul, MN, will introduce a bill to close MSP because she thinks STP should get all the traffic.

Mark


User currently offlineMidex461 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6291 times:

I thought I read something in the AZ Republic about Rep. Jeff Flake introducing a bill to close down TUS on the grounds that "Everybody can just drive up to PHX. I mean, so many of them do it already."


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User currently offlineManchesterMAN From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 1228 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days ago) and read 6072 times:

Do they really have nothing better to do? This whole thing is sad and a waste of everyone's time.


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User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5899 times:

Nice way of showing just how silly the whole situation with DAL has become.

User currently offlineCjpark From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1251 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5483 times:

I would bet that Hensarling's probable opponents will be able to make plenty of points with this bill at Hensarlings expense in the next election. It will be funny.


"Any airline that wants to serve the [region] can go to DFW today and fly anywhere they want," WN spokesman Ed Stewart
User currently offlineKarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3105 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5183 times:

Oklahoma Congressmen Not Laughing About TIA Legislation

Courtesy: KTUL-TV

http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0705/245957.html


User currently offlineTexan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4278 posts, RR: 52
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5125 times:

Wow, the first interesting thing my Congressman has ever done  Smile I still do not like him, but I think it is funny! And Lt. AWACS and Flying Texan are correct: Hensarling is not a Senator, he poorly represents the 5th District of Texas.

Texan



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User currently offlineDAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4950 times:

Boy this whole Wright Ammement thing has sure stirred up the pot. Big ripple effects.  bomb 


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User currently offlinePilotParis From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4853 times:

Can someone explain the Wright Amendment to me, I've never really understood it.


When are Armani, Vuitton, and Gucci going to start airlines?
User currently offlineARCJET From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4591 times:

Dallas and Fort Worth were told by the Government to build a airport serving both cities. Dallas Love had all or most of the commerical flights. Fort Worth Airport had little. Dallas and Fort Worth do not like each other and for Dallas to get all the airline traffic did not sit well with the good people of Fort Worth.
Dallas and Fort Worth sank a lot of money into the DFW project and the stipulation of the building of DFW was that Dallas Love would no longer have commerical flights because Fort Worth did not want to pay for this beast and still have Dallas operating a airport. Dallas Love flights ceased in October 1973 when DFW was officially opened all the airlines left Dallas Love and moved to DFW, except one, SOUTHWEST. Southwest did not want to go to DFW and after court battles it was agreed that Southwest could operate at Dallas Love but only to the states that surrounded Texas and not beyond that. Fort Worth did not want Dallas Love to have service beyond the border states. The Wright Amendment, named after a Texas Politician was born. Houston, Chicago, New York have multiple airports with no restrictions because they don't share their metropolitan area with another major city that involves a downright ugly competition and mud slinging. I'm not from Texas and I did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night so someone from the metro area can probably go into more detail of this mess...


User currently offlineTxAgKuwait From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1803 posts, RR: 42
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4541 times:

CJPark writes in, and I quote: >>"I would bet that Hensarling's probable opponents will be able to make plenty of points with this bill at Hensarlings expense in the next election. It will be funny.<<

Most recent election returns:

>> U. S. Representative District 5
Jeb Hensarling(I) REP 148,816 64.46%
Bill Bernstein DEM 75,911 32.88%
John Gonzalez LIB 6,118 2.65%
-----------
Race Total 230,845 <<

CJP:

do you really think that the folks who live in east and southeast Dallas County, as well as the residents of the following rural counties - Robertson, Madison, Falls, Freestone, Leon, Limestone, Anderson, Henderson - will really be perturbed that someone is trying to defend Southwest Airlines & Love Field?

do you really think that anyone is liable to overcome a 2-to-1 edge and the power of incumbency?

You really don't get the demographic, do you? Hensarling's Dallas County vote base is clearly aligned with the "keep Love Field open...in fact expand it more" mindset.

These are people of modest means who really, really like Southwest (sort of like the Academy Awards committee and Sally Field, but I digress)

Bottom Line: Hensarling gets re-elected easily. The person who should be afraid...be very very very afraid....is the representative from the 6th District.

Despite its Republican tendencies, Texas' 6th Congressional District could probably be persuaded to go back to the D column. All you'd need to do is take a conservative Republican, have him switch parties, dump a whole lot of campaign money on him (hello? Southwest Airlines Pilot Association PAC? Southwest Airlines Freedom Fund?)....oh and it might not hurt if the guy was also a Texas Aggie (just like Barton) AND a retired Army Officer and Iraq War vet. THAT might make for an interesting race.

Hensarling" His seat is safe. No problem. In fact, if anything, his district probably thinks he failed to go far enough. Instead of just closing Tulsa, his bill should have closed both OKC and Tulsa and dictated that all Oklahoma air traffic be funneled thru Stillwater, Perry, or maybe McAlester.


User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4504 times:

Quoting Midex461 (Reply 14):
I thought I read something in the AZ Republic about Rep. Jeff Flake introducing a bill to close down TUS on the grounds that "Everybody can just drive up to PHX. I mean, so many of them do it already."

TUS is a much quieter airport than PHX. And about 3.5 million people a year do not drive to PHX and fly from here.

Quote:
Inhofe says if the Wright Amendment is repealed, it would put Southwest Airlines -- a discount carrier -- and American Airlines, which has a huge maintenance base in Tulsa in direct competition.

OH NO!!!! God forbid that direct (fair) competition is a bad thing!

Quote:
"Next week I'm going to come up with legislation to make sure these kind of things don't happen anymore," Sullivan said.

I was under the impression that we already had anti-monopoly legislation in the US from the early 1900's.  confused  I guess we do need new laws since no one seems to remember the old ones.


25 Post contains links and images FlyingTexan : http://www.fightwright.org/ http://www.setlovefree.com/
26 Cjpark : Sorry but after going back and reading the posts I just had to answer this one. Sorry for bringing up old topics nut I got a real kick out of my frien
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